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On my recent trip to south africa i saw the very same happening , large profitable citrus farms / dairy etc given to BEE ( black economic empowerment ) folks and within the first year they filed bankruptcy. In many other cases the land the BBE so badly wanted has been re-sold back to white...

Hello. I just ran through a few SA and namibian sites to see the prices and i must agree with Norfolk that namibia is more expensive if you look at their trophy lists. I believe the difference is mainly to do with the big bang when the safari hunting was in full swing SA started with many more...

Hi James, I might be interested ! What is the PH and outfitter licence numbers ? PH/outfitter name surname ? Companies name ? Where is the accommodation located , any website or pics ? Sorry so many questions but i think these are standard rules on AH hunting offer posts :-)...

Hello, Just give Pigslayer a chance , there have been countless similar threads before where hunters try to speak out on "bad hunts or whatever the case is here " , an we should all just read and listen rather than joke around lets wait for the response from andrew mclaren safaris and see...

Hello, What i wrote said " he would work as a middleman " , so the hunters invitation and guns and the trophy export would be done by the legal PH/outfitter that he would be using which i did mention in my post. regards Mike Jones Holland

Hi all, Must agree with BillC on the $$$$ part. As i understand this thread , Loodt doesn't take the clients out hunting so that's all legal. He could have worked as the middleman and send his clients out with qualified PH's and grow his name from there. Once he has his PH and...

hi, Im no expert , im from Europe but i would put it this way if a leopard is on the hunt and would see some small child walking alone i guess he will take chance for a meal. Also if anyone is very unlucky to be under a tree or a walk way where a leopard hunting is waiting to pounce then i...

Probably everyones prefrence to wear ear plugs or not depends how soon deaf you want to become... Same goes for the muzzle break..... About the unarmed woman i bet they new before the time there was going to be a river between them and the buff and even if they didnt know it , i have seen...

Hi from Holland , interesting thread. I read the opening message and i have a question. I have seen many booking agents on here and millions on the internet that represent hunting safaris in africa , does this mean they all are doing it illegally too ? If yes i would say its silly because...

What really makes me mad is these people know very well these are WILD ANIMALS and when the animals attack them the poor animals get put down ! Humans are seriously stupid sometimes... See these videos below all in the Kruger Park , the poor ele bull was irritated by the people in that car and...

Sorry to hear about it. Tap its once in a life time hunt, so many people would love to have such an opportunity. Im telling you just do the hunt you need the time off and you will be sorry if you cancel it. cheers mike jones

Good length .... im not surprised seeing this , i guess in the States you can shoot most of the South African plains game by now :-) Same goes in South Africa over there you can even shoot American Bison !!! :-) This poor gemsbok has some nasty mange needs some good shampoo ! regards...

well put Spike ! I too agree with you and nothing is for free even if they give free hunts or large discounts that looks good to us as the hunters , we still don't really know what game prices go for at the auctions vs the dollar price they sell it for on a hunt or even the "SA prices " for...

As a hunter if i mentioned on " joe soaps " thread that i was interested in his offer and then later " jack sparrow" PM's me that he can give me the same offer for cheaper/better deal !! Bring it on jack sparrow !!! Its my cash i do the research i take the risk either way. This is how...

Yes i agree with Jerome a line must be drawn somewhere.. In my case i was looking for a hunt so when i was sent the PM it was an interesting offer and better deal so i took it and all went well. I agree that, if i was not looking for any hunts and i get 10 PM's about hunts then this is not...

Yes my hunt that i saved 3k usd on went well and couldn't have asked for a better hunt , because of this i could afford more trophies :-) I did however ask the outfitter why didn't he just post his counter offer on a new thread his reply was " most Outfitters know each other on here...

Hi all, I was about to buy a hunt that was posted on the forum and some other outfitter PM'ed me with a lower price , as i did my research on the new offer i eventually took the cheaper deal from the PM offer saving me 3k usd so i must say in this case it was a good PM :-) This is allowed...

Yes , look at their pics. Here: Ratelfontein cheers Mike from Holland

Check out "Ratelfontein" they also in the Karoo they have Bison , black buck , Oryx ARABIAN, Oryx SCIMITAR .. many more

Hi, Easy i would say the outfitter would buy a mixed group at a game sale or from their friends area off load it on his area lets sat 2000 hectares keep an eye on its movements just before the hunter arrives , take him on a wild goose chase finally getting to the spot where its been all the...

any pic please ?:dancing:

Hi Enysse,sorry i should have used the "reply with a quote" i was reffering to the opening threads question not to Bob's post. cheers Mike Holland

Nice thread , i was just curious why do you want to hunt at night from a blind with a bow ? You will have problems tracking the blood trail and im not sure if many ph's will recommended this ? Could end up losing you r trophy. On a hunting safari with high fences you always have all the game...

i also say the Northern Cape Kimberley area i saw loads there all over 40 " mark.. My friend just came back from Liam Urry Safaris over there and took a monster ! greetings Holland

good thread , in my view if i hunt i can live under the stars but if my wife and kids join me then ill need at least 3 stars :-) Its good if you have at least 4 stars and have some tents to accommodate the rough rider hunters :-) regards Mike Jones Holland

I think this thread just boils down to what the hunter is after and what he can afford..... Some use baits , hides, dogs etc ... Some want to arrive and on the 2nd day have their leopard ready to blow away from 40 m with their cannon. Others don't like dogs cause its noisy and to "busy" or...

Nice gun i saw on their webpage that the 450 x-press goes from 6000 euros to 7600 euros ....

Hi there and good luck, regarding your 2 questions. 1. I would say if he wanted to use cams for your specific leopard then the cams and bait should have been setup at least 2 weeks before your arrival or more... The bait would most likely be in the tree so if its being eaten and you find...

Super clips and good shooting there ! I remember it like yesterday when i was there, Liam is an excellent PH !

Great to have read this report, i too hunted with Liam Urry Safaris a few years back and i had the time of my life ! Fantastic people,top service and great trophies ! Thanks for the post , brought back memories :-)

Hi Owen hope you and Liam are doing well. Great photos wow i have never seen so many horns before ! I loved hunting with you guys last time and ill definitely be going back again to hunt with Liam Urry Safaris they are great folks with excellent services !! cheers from Holland Mike J

hahahah he was doing the gardening and the plumbing checking her pipes out.....

hope you find the right area and that you have fun sounds great !

now getting interesting :-)

nothing makes me more mad when i read about a good hunt and they dont mention what gun ,bullet was used and the distance etc... these days so many mags give us half info and thats irritating , this is a good thread hope some of this info gets out and into the mags !! thanks

nice report great trophies , nice fat horns on that blesbuck !!!

sounds good to me... i had couple of mates fly delta and just heard good things on these new seats..

whahahahah,,,, great joke !!!

nice post let us know what you end up with ..cheers

i agree with Enysse...

whahahahahahah good one !!!!! whooo weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i read these posts looks like a great hunt but with so much negative posts i would no go near this ... im not judging the outfitter im just saying be careful ... cheers

hi from Holland .. i have hunted all over africa and take various species , just from my views that iv seen is that in Namibia you get some huge gemsbuck. But i heard some SA breeders buy these bulls from namibia and they have good breeding success in RSA when i hunted in RSA in the northern...

beautiful creature indeed.

lets us know what the outcome will be, sounds like could cost a lot but worth it ! cheers

as Tom mentioned it is a stud and im sure used just for breeding , you can see by the skin quality and condition its a fed animal, i too would never hunt such an animal but in the opening post nobody said its for hunting in the first place... thanks Tom for posting these pics of such a beautiful...