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Neither of the 2 other choices that you are considering will do anything that a 270 won't do. Nothing is more classic in a M70 than a 270.

If it were mine I would shoot it a bit before doing anything else. The proof is in the shooting.

Rifle magazine tested all of the major manufacturer's primers a few years ago and determined that Winchester large rifle magnum primers were hotter than the Federal 215. If you can find any of those it could help.

For new ones try Safari Press for a great selection.

A Winchester M70 FWT or a Ruger Hawkeye in something like a 270 up through a 30'06 would never be a mistake. They are both affordable, strong, reliable CRF rifles and your daughter could hunt her lifetime with either. Good luck with your choice.

I find that I shoot less center fire and shoot my flint lock muzzleloader a lot more. Black is easy to find and we will never run out of rocks to make spark.

It looks like a Winchester 1873 half magazine rifle.

So the bases must dovetail on the receiver then. Its shame that they changed that system.

I believe that the bases are integral with the reciever.

One way to find out is to switch to another powder and see if it still hangfires. Then also try with another primer as well.

Its not only recoil that can cause bullets to move in the case. Sometimes something as simple as being bounced around in a vehicle can be enough to do it and I say that from personal experience. Serious ammo intended for serious hunts should be crimped. Why take a chance when its so easy to prevent.

If the action is sound it should be worth $450 to $550 so your offer was in the ballpark.

I would agree that its priced a bit high but only a bit. That rifle $2000 would be seriously undervalued. It is a beautiful piece of work on a classic rifle!

Its true that dead deer don't run but I have shot a lot of deer with plain old Speer hot cores and Hornady interlocks with far less meat damage and never lost any of them.

A few years ago Handloader Magazine did a test of large rifle primers and found that Winchester large rifle magnum primers were the hottest primers slightly better than the Federal 215.

And I thought that I didn't need any more rifles.

I can vouch for the Canon G7 compact as being an outstanding camera. There have been National Geographic pros who use it as a backup and have had photos in the magazine taken with it. They still make several versions of it and a used G7 should be easy to find.

I have an exhaust fan that does a good job in the man room if I sit close to it but it gets a bit cold if its below 20°. Perhaps next week it will be usable!

The biggest difference is that the safari express has a second recoil lug forward of the receiver on the barrel. That's a very nice feature which should give better protection from stock cracks in the tang area and the magazine well. I have a super express in 416RM and no problems in over 20...

On page 72 of Kevin Robertson's book "Africa's Most Dangerous" there is a photo of a M700 Remington bolt face that a client of his was using on an elephant hunt that had the extractor pull from the bolt face when trying extract the spent case from the first shot. That will not happen with a M70...

A good M70 is never a mistake. The current 375 safari express is a splendid rifle!

Lee used to make custom FCDs on order. I had them make one for a 264wm on special order. I'm not sure if they still offer that service but its certainly worth a phone call to their customer service.

Great rifle and tremendous deal. The action alone is worth the asking price.

Lovely rifle, the S/N says original date of manufacture was most likely late 1961 or early 1962.

A nice 257 Roberts would also be a dandy.

You nailed it! The original goal for wolves in the U.P. was 200-250 spread throughout the area but with no plan to manage them once that goal was met and we still are not allowed to control them. Because of our extremely high snow totals in the winter 200-300+ inches the deer concentrate in...

They have certainly done a number on the deer herd in the U.P. of Michigan. The hunter take of deer has declined over 50% since 2018. In that time somewhere around 1000 wolves are killing an estimated 35-45 deer per wolf every year. Doesn't leave much for hunters.

There is a #1A 7257Roberts on guns international right now with an asking price of $1500. It looks to be in great condition.

I like your reasoning. Why clean if accuracy doesn't improve when you do. One of my favorite hunting rifles requires about 5 rounds put through it after cleaning before it settles down and shoots consistent groups. My experience mirrors yours.

I have collected and used pre64 M70s for over 50 years and will say that is a very very good deal. Its not a collector but a really nice user. If it were mine I would add 2 cross bolts to prevent the stock from cracking in the tang area ( not expensive ) and be happy with a fine rifle! Hunters...

I handloaded ammunition for a friend of a friend who was taking his 416wby on a cape buffalo hunt. The first thing that I did was ask him if he wanted it loaded to be a 416wby or a 416 Rigby. After shooting some loaded to match the Rigby velocity he felt that was plenty and it was. If you...

I have used Hornady bullets for years and like them very much. They are accurate and lethal for hunting. No they aren't Swift A frames but they are affordable and generally available.

Marlin makes lever guns chambered for both 357mag and 44mag. They hold 10 rounds and are handy quick to operate rifles. For your needs they might be just about perfect.

I have found Starline back orders to be very reliable. If they are accepting back orders you may have to wait a few weeks but they will deliver.

I used to think that with a few exceptions crimping wasn't necessary. Then on my probably once in a lifetime hunting trip in S.A. I had a problem with bullets moving so much that I decided to finish the trip using my backup rifle. The ammo that was problematic was for my #1 Ruger 338wm using...

Either that or simply poor shooting.

Yes, the Winchester and the Browning 1885s have ejectors that can be set by the user to eject left or right or to simply extract the case. Nice rifles.

My absolute favorite too and along with the peat and seaweed there is that aftertaste with just a hint of sweetness. Perfection!

What kind of loony thinking would make the powers that be decide to ban a classic single shot hunting rifle? We are truly living in strange times.

That is an extraordinary deal! I have one like it built in 64 and if I didn't I would be all over that. Good luck with your sale, can't imagine it will last long!

No, I misread that and was thinking about recoil reduction like magnaporting.

Only if you want to be able to hear in the future. If I shoot at a range where someone near me is using one I pack up and go elsewhere.

I'm pretty keen on it too! That is a beautiful rifle.

Yes, they are the same.

Try some Laphroig 10 year old, its about 50-60$ so not cheap but one of the great ones. Its peaty and seaweedy and very flavorful. Just sip it and notice the slightly sweet aftertaste. Its my favorite!

I used a 30'06 for both, 180gr Nosler partition at 2700fps. Both one shot kills.

Hornady data is many times very conservative and in general everyone's 7x57 data is all over the spectrum. The only way to really know is to carefully work up loads for your rifle. That being said I have no problem pushing 154gr Hornady interlocks accurately to 2740fps in my rifle so you should...

Both are splendid rifles! The right choice is the one that feels best to you.