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Thats great, but why not everybody else? I'm unsure if I'll get any honest response.

Honestly I'd like to know why the discussion got heated in the first place.

Okay... and? You should not be seeing the trophy as the be-all-end-all. The experience should be the priority but unfortunately people focus on materialistic possessions. There are so many examples of replicas looking exactly like the animal hunted yet that's apparently not good enough. There's...

FFS, if hunters won't go to Africa because they can't get their worthless trophy back home then it's on them. I'm not not going to be sympathetic towards them because it's plain fucking stupid.

I think we're all concerned here on AH. And I think I'm done explaining my opinion for now. People seem to like taking things out of context and simply won't budge even if you explain yourself over and over. Really a pity how human nature overtakes reason. I'm not downplaying any of the...

These game farms already existed before hunting tourism became popular here in the 90s. They just weren't as plentiful and the government didn't care how many animals you killed. If it didn't help build the military they weren't interested in setting standards. Just because you guys didn't see...

No, I was referring to MOST South African males, not just the whites. Most townships are on the edge of agricultural land and the teenagers like to hunt guineafowl with dogs. I know because I've actually been there and seen it. Viewing our country with your view of the states isn't accurate...

I don't have to prove you shit. You're not a big deal and neither am I. Your BS "eXpErIeNcE" argument is regurgitated over and over when no one really cares, it's just you. This reminds me of when you were up @gizmo 's ass because he said something about fenced hunting which you didn't agree...

Why make posts about varminting and bird hunting? You could have considered the fact that I've been shooting since then... Pulling at straws. Baseless opinion sprinkled with disrespect and pettiness. You do it to nearly everyone on here for no reason. It's not really propaganda if it's based on...

@Red Leg , South Africa's hunting industry, in particular, is much bigger than people make out. I've said this before, nearly every South African male has had some experience with hunting either directly or through someone else. It will eventually become part of the collective psyche. Regardless...

I think we're all aware of the British tabloids and what they think of us. That doesn't they'll singlehandedly push the bill to pass. The bill would be suicide for the UK's relations with SADC countries. Celebrities haven't been taken seriously since the start of the pandemic. I'm not denying...

I'm aware, though I should have been clearer in my post. It was more of a general question.

That doesn't have anything to do with my question. My question was if nothing has actually happened and we can't say for certain what the results will be then why come to bold conclusions? Do you guys actually enjoy getting angry or worried? It's strange. I mean that genuinely as I see it so...

And look at the amount of shit Boris is in at the moment.

I'm referring of course to the many posts that have been made about trophy import bans over the last few years. Guys, I get it. You are concerned about the future of hunting as an industry and seeing clickbait headlines from the Daily Mail and Wall Street Journal can be upsetting. Remember that...

So, if the bill hasn't gone through The House of Lords then why are members on AH linking propaganda articles like above? Nothing has even happened and some of us are already fear-mongering. Nuance is very important.

So is there any confirmation that the UK is actually banning trophy imports? I'd be cautious before reading anything from 'The Hill'. It's pure White House bootlicking propaganda. Can I get confirmation from one of the members here?

I also hope so, though I suspect this is very much just spin control. If I'm right then Mr. Murray is incredibly stupid. What too much money does to the mind and soul. He may have shot big animals but he was never a hunter at heart, just a bored millionaire looking for satisfaction to fill the...

Lol, what NGO do you plan on donating to, Angus? I'm sure you'll make your utmost best to try and undermine South Africa's sovereignty. I'm also interested in hearing your nationality, not necessarily your birthplace but where you place your allegiance other than yourself. You say that honesty...

That's true

Tjo, I like your persistence :ROFLMAO:

Everything's endangered in Africa it seems. Though the author never actually touches on why and instead gives vague answers revolving around trophy hunting. Whatever the hell that means at this point. I'm glad his stuck-up kind are mass emigrating elsewhere, they were never truly South African...

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-12-14-namibias-community-wildlife-conservation-system-has-come-off-the-rails-investigation-shows/ Don Pinnock is really grasping at straws it seems. The "investigation" came from The African Elephant Journal, a well-known animal rights organization...

WW1 was especially devastating to Britain's rural and suburban male population, the majority of conscripts. You were mostly left with the city-dwellers after that.

I highly respect your wisdom and experience. If only more people could have the resolve to stop and listen. Thank you for your insight.

If I got something like that I'd stop hunting altogether, everything would feel so mundane to this extraordinary achievement. Congratulations to you and your hunter.

Maybe in the West, but not here. Though hunting obviously won't last forever. You guys have to remember that us Africans hunt as well, a lot more than tourists that come here. Sure, you may not see many videos of ONLY South Africans but that's because it's usually on an unattractive farm or a...

Incorrect. Youtube is probably the easiest and most reliable place to share something like this. Tons of creators have made a career off of exposing mainstream narratives and it actually works in getting people to listen.

You make some very interesting points @Hunter-Habib . The view of hunting being an aristocratic past time is especially true. For most of England's history (post Dark Ages) hunting was very much only permitted for the super rich. So even though hunting may have been open to the lower and middle...

The actual likeliness of this proposal actually happening is extremely low. How convenient it is that Johnson was able to pull this out of his and his mistress' arses when their popularity is declining rapidly. Absolute joke that these kinds of personality based laws are even considered in a...

We should also remember that the UK banned travel to and from South Africa only to reverse it. This was just two weeks ago, my friends. The Tories are trying everything to be taken seriously no matter the cost. Biggest clownshow in world politics today.

We should all think like this.

Replica... Replica... Replica. Come on guys, it's not that hard. Your mount should not be the be-all-end-all. You're not going change anyone's mind my rolling over like a clumsy tortoise, you need to actually voice your opinion. By voicing your opinion I mean not by relying on a few spokesmen to...

On the topic of trophy imports, if the process for getting ivory imported is simply too long and not worth anyone's time, why not get a replica made? I understand people like the real thing but some companies have been making picture perfect recreations of an animal taken, simply through some...

Sounds fantastic

Wish you both good luck. Mike Fell has been hitting the jackpot consistently as of late. His Instagram page has pictures of some incredible specimens for a variety of species. Just out of curiosity... what are you and your friend targeting primarily?

It has been changed as of late, and I do believe that the USFWS is accepting Zimbabwe elephants, though there might be more to the story. If I were in your position, I'd pick Botswana over Zimbabwe. As @IvW said, your chances of getting a big one in Botswana are much greater than in Zimbabwe...

A 70-pound elephant is not in the same league as a 50'' inch buffalo and is not nearly as scarce or difficult to find.

True, mister Mike Fell took a giant just a few days ago. The client used a 92-pound compound bow, quite impressive.

I posted about that particular bull a few weeks ago. The weight was confirmed to be 108. The concession owner and PH both kept a fairly low profile but were generous enough to release the measurements and weight. That's about it.

This is a few years old, my friends. Nothing to be upset about, imo.

Not bothered, just trying to say it's best to focus on the positive rather the negative. Though it is best just to move along like you said.

Hard not to at least be curious when you constantly see it on "the latest." I'm not against you guys having a discussion, it's becoming a bit much now. Not good to feed off of negativity. Tis' all and no disrespect towards anyone

Nothing against non-hunting related issues, but they've become increasingly common and don't really have a place here. I wouldn't mind a once a week discussion but not every day.

Exactly, we're being punished for showing transparency. Governments impose travel restrictions just because they can. Who cares if third worlders have another stagnant tourism sector? It's just like pushing a big red button to them.

"If necessary"- key quote there. That doesn't mean they're putting it into effect.

Fair enough.

I was in favour of the restrictions last year but now it's just stupid. People doing dumb shit like not practicing basic hygiene even after eating or using the restroom is what spreads this stuff. If you get the vaccine (if available) and don't act stupid then you'll probably be fine. This...

Never said that, at all. I shouldn't even have to explain myself to such a ridiculous strawman.

You can rest assured that though our government may be corrupt, it isn't anywhere near Kenya or Ethiopia levels of corrupt. If that were the case our wildlife wouldn't be flourishing like it is today. That goes for game reserves and ranches.