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Duly noted! Thank you! In comparison from the hodgdon online data, 46.5 is the maximum listed for said bullet with H110. I found that to be quite interesting. Is it still listing a large rifle primer or has that been upgraded to a LRM?

The Advent of the .450 bushmaster did lots of good things for .460 S&W carbines. The extra barrel length was causing hellacious blown up bullets on whitetails and hogs. Bullets were designed to be shot out of an 8" barrel revolver not a 20+" carbine. However the gun is amazing. I like the super...

I finally found it using the way back machine! Some have in the past questioned me with my use of 52.0 gr of Win 296 under a 200 gr .452 FTX bullet in this cartridge. I had the data on a printout, but lost it in a move some years ago. The link solely for research purposes...

I feel like the .458 requires more work to be in shooting shape for than does the .375. The .458 also offers the advantage of being readily downloaded with .45-70 bullets for practice.

Now that looks like a capable cartridge.

Where and how does one find brass for the improved Jeffery? Does it use the Gibbs bolt face?

Sweet Baby HayZeus! The doubters are out in force! I use the releasable loctite blue which is removable I have used it for a decade like this for choke tubes on competition guns and also for screws on competition revolvers. Any time I have needed to remove anything I have had no issues. The...

It is also 24" long.

I'd be interested to see it. My Mossberg came with a 24" barrel originally. I was able to buy from Mossberg a 20" barrel and have them skip the porting. Interestingly enough I had a problem with this gun releasing the shell from the magazine tube after I had cycled the action. Bang...click...

Please provide the link I was unable to find what you speak of. The issue is that what if I need to shoot more than thirty shots between tightenings? I'm supposed to carry a choke tube wrench in the field and tighten the choke a few times a day or in between stages in a competition? Thank you...

Confirmation bias is very much alive and well in shotgunning. Go to a turkey shoot sometime and worship at the temple of the true believers. :A Worshipl::A Worshipl::A Worshipl::E Lol: In my case, I either want the shortest possible setup (18" 3½" 12ga Holy Grail) or I no longer care how long...

Extended chokes can be nice for changing in the field, but nowadays I am generally sticking with one choke save bird hunting. With my extended chokes I actually lubricate the internal threads and wipe the choke down before applying loctite blue to the choke threads. I tighten and use a sharpie...

There...fixed it for you.

Yes, the super calibre what doth defy any semblance of reality in order to smite cartridges north and south of it on the ballistic spectrum. I think this is the best explanation of why I am not concerned about the magnums either. A healthy charge of buckshot will make a stout hunter in short...

I laughed way too hard at this honestly.... I have a .458 Lott and a .375 H&H. What more can one need? Wants are a different story.

Would work until @Bob Nelson 35Whelen got hungry and ate some... Ruger #1 is the culprit there. Apparently everything kicks harder in that rifle and even the .357 Magnum is something to be experienced.

@Ontario Hunter there have been two successful revivals of old cartridges to successfully harvest DG. The cartridges selected were the .405 Win and .45-90. The guy who did the hunting used modern bullets from North Fork IIRC. I think your selection of the .40-60 for this is wanting. Need more oomph.

Sounds like a huge man drive to me. I've seen great success with such tactics. Of course it helps if you know the people you're hunting with and they have the restraint to abstain from shooting if unsure of the circumstances.

Eric, I'm wondering about the reliability in the cycling due to the short barrel. I'm going to call the mossbergians next week and flat out ask them why not. I am unfamiliar with the gas system in these guns. I wonder if it needs a certain barrel length to work? Maybe there's a certain recoil...

Less relevant I too would buy, however you'd have to believe that the greater pellet count is always more desirable. I'm starting to get curious about the reliability of optics on the 3½" guns. Perhaps the barrel length is also a function of reliability as well. I'd be interested in a reliable...

Having no dog in this fight, extraction is looking more and more certain as we move to the right. I might want to equip my rifle with a ram rod if I were stuck using Kynoch.

Why can't they just do an 18" 3.5" gun? In anything!?! It's really annoying that the longer receiver models have an even longer minimum barrel length. Make an 18.25" barrel 3.5" with chokes, robust adjustable low profile fiberoptic sights and an optic set-up. At that point you have the perfect...

Well I figured I'd show up to the thread and kick a man when he was down, but at looks as though I'd have to stand in line. Righteous indeed I'd be in doing that! I sure hope the OP gets it sorted out. I figured if a man's going to such lengths to rectify the problem and has alluded to the...

This is very cool! What a beat concept. One question: does this tighten the primer pockets at all? You got me thinking about that with the peening of the case head.

How come you didn't use that engraver on the Lott? :A Popcorn:

This is well said. You can put yourself in a pickle at close range. If the velocity is too great for the impact distance...exploding bullets happen and we don't get the needed penetration.

Some of these prices scream, "the customers are ripe for the fleecing!"

To be fair he said the rifle had iron sights. There was not any attestation to using them for the sighting. He's probably got a big old Vortex and Area 419 50 MOA mount firing forty seven CCI standard loads to one hit. It could be done with something prominent enough to hold on and a very...

Five pages and nobody said it... I'll take a .3...7...6! :A Popcorn: :D Pop Popcorn: :A Stirring: :A Voodoo: :A Tease:

So it is possible that the possibilities could possibly be...endless?

There's a lot of possibility here. Could it be possible that a person may not understand what possibly could be a possibility or any and all of the possibilities? Seems entirely feasible. :A Popcorn: :A Tease:

I believe I'll stick with the H&H. I have neither desire nor affinity for the wildcats of this particular caliber.

I'd like one in .375 H&H... that'd be something.

Well according to that one fella, a .458WM is better than the Lott. I mean it's kinda like a .308 compromise from a .30-06. The case is even about 7.62mm shorter...it would be kinda fun to have a drum magazine for that rifle. It would lose five pounds in firing.

@Bob Nelson 35Whelen and @BeeMaa Squirrels won't have any place to hide now! Everyone knows that ported double rifles are easier to regulate because the muzzle is tamer.:A Stirring::A Popcorn::D Pop Popcorn:

So with all this apples to oranges comparison I just have to ask, do you have a 6.5 Creedmoor? So what can be done to a .458 Lott chamber to allow it to have a better lead and run faster at lower pressure? Clearly with a longer case and a proper throat it will surpass the .458 WM+P. So the...

So what do I need to use to clean up the Lott throat and make it more powerful than the WM without changing the chambering? I'll not deny that my Lott has a short throat. I've proven it to myself with the dual cannelure Speer bullets.

I'm glad you included a few more pictures of the stamps. It looked like a .450 "WE" at first and I was going to further inquire as to your ballistic experiments. So the "Artiste" "made his mark"? With the XXX over the Lott stamp? :A Voodoo: Or MCGEE is the name of the name dishevelled stamper?

Well that's sure a bunch of bubba'd up rifles. Those chamber stampings are certainly wanting.:A Popcorn:

@VertigoBE that's the safety that the tang sight has been mounted to. My concerns: The sight has to stay up while the gun is loaded or it looks like it may scratch the frame. In the down position it looks like a soup sandwich to get purchase on. The added leverage making it easier to...

@Axle2010 I figured you were being cheeky with our good forum mate @Riflecrank around. Now I'm certain you're plumb crazy. Well you're in the right place for that.

The only thing to complain about with this is the font for engraving of the chambering. Otherwise pretty neat idea. This thread is turning into a pissing match pretty quickly, but I guess that's to be expected anymore. If we made it about reboring an R8 to .460 WBY then we could have some...

At least their shoulders still work mate. Take the piss all you like, we'll be too busy enjoying the ballistic spectrum above .257 to hear your mosquito...moe-skeee-toe squeaks...:A Stirring::A Stirring::A Stirring::A Stirring:

Well the rim size that can be handled at a higher pressure will be smaller is my thought with the comment. I was having difficulty finding the pressure of the .577 NE round.

What's the operating pressure difference between the 20 gauge and .577?

Is that a factory or aftermarket barrel? I have the Pro Hunter in stainless .375H&H. It's quite the company on a rainy day.

I think that would be perfect in a .458WM or possibly a .375. Bam flop on most things lighter than DG. Most exciting.

Sweet mother of eardrums! Are the trackers throwing water balloons filled with petrol at the lion and then you shoot this to deafen him and set him on fire? That looks like an SBR in the States. I'm not up on the mother may I for taking that out of the country.

A really big buffalo? Nailed it!