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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    Maybe I have it all wrong but I thought the .308 Winchester Stainless used to be a Model 16 since it was short action? At any rate as I understand it they are renaming the various models that were based on the 110. Where they were using 10,11,12,14,16 to define different categories of short...
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    I've heard all the stories and seen issues at the rang but like I said the one my buddy bought has been flawless. The press in barrel would be a no go for me but it's not like Sig Sauer hasn't done the same thing.
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    It's the cheaper "Axis' version that doesn't have the Accu Trigger like the "Axis II" but my understanding is you can tune it down to the 2.5-3.5 lb range with a couple of bucks worth of parts (or possibly just a spring trim) while still keeping it drop safe, they are supposed to be 6 lb...
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    I've had less than perfect success in the past with some of the lower cost rifles and especially low dollar Chinese scopes. A friend bought a Remington 770 with a no name scope (Looks.like a Bushnell Banner) a few years and over a dozen deer ago for his son and other than tightening the scope...
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    I'm going to hunt it as stock as possible. It will only get mods if I believe they are absolutely necessary (IE a 9 lb trigger, actual verified issues with mounts or scope, actual stringing contributed to stick, etc). All I plan to do initially is prep the scope base and mounts, check the...
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    Assuming that's a Crossfire II they have Leupold like eye relief, pretty good build quality and the newer ones appear to have upgraded glass (they are clearer at higher mag than the earlier ones). It's not a high end scope by any means but it's very serviceable. I'm not a big fan of the new...
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    Having cleaned decades of copper fouling out of a new-to-me .257 Wby I feel your pain.
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    Did you have an issue with the OEM Aluminum Weavers?
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    1. I suspect the newer models have fixed the safety issue. I will certainly check it 2. I've read reports of 7-9 lb on early models but have heard new ones are around 4-6 lb I'm going to try to use as is but will resort to a slight shortening of the spring or replacement if it's required. 3...
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    I've had a fair number of 110 through the years and agree it was incredibly well designed to be economical to manufacture with very little impact on durability. The Axis doubles down on that. We shall see.
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    Cheap Rifles and Hypocrisy

    Okay guys I've been called on my hypocrisy. It's been pointed out to me that when I criticize some of the cheaper offerings it's often based on brief impressions and opinions. I don't have sustained experienced with the items in question. As a result I have purchased a new rifle to deer hunt...
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    Remington 150 gr. Bronze Point Bullets

    My Great Uncle used to use them as his "farm bullet" out of a .30/06. Could use them for both deer and coyotes.
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    130 gr 308

    Not a Savage Model 1920 "Baby Springfield" by chance? I've always really wanted one of those rifles.
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    130 gr 308

    I seem to recall Sako and Tikka using a 1 in 11 for a while.
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    .308 Win vs .260 Rem/6.5 Creedmoor

    In America the .30/06 was pretty much our default caliber for a long time and I suspect it still is if you are talking hunting. 5.56/.223 Remington, 6.5 Creedmoor and 7.62x51/.308 Winchester all outsell it now but that's likely more shooting sports driven. To be honest if I'm going to shoot a...
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    .308 Win vs .260 Rem/6.5 Creedmoor

    He just takes out the brachial plexus and both shoulders in the process. Seems to work for him. That said he doesn't take shots from bad angles and the deer here rarely exceed 100 kg. He usually loads 100 grain Partitions and gets pass through penetration. I think the majority of problems with...
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    .308 Win vs .260 Rem/6.5 Creedmoor

    I think the .243 has its place for 100 kilo game animals. I have an acquaintance that has killed over 200 whitetail deer out to 250 meters with one and never lost an animal. Most are just bang-flop (High Shoulder Shot) My problem is with people that insist on taking shots from a bad angle or on...
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    Browning FN - Talk Me Out of It

    Well no need to decide, it's gone.
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    Browning FN - Talk Me Out of It

    All the salt wood was treated in America. To the best of my knowledge no European Walnut was sent to America for treatment. The wood that was treated in California was all Claro Walnut to the best of my knowledge. The wood that was treated in Missouri may have been American Walnut although I...
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    Browning FN - Talk Me Out of It

    You guys do understand that while this is an FN Mauser (not a Sako) it is a Short Extractor correct?
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    Cheap $100 Scope

    I've got several VX1 2-7x33 I picked up for $119 from Optics Planet when Leupold discontinued them. I'll give him one of those if the Sightron won't hold a zero.
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    Browning FN - Talk Me Out of It

    I'm fairly certain the stock is European Walnut and not American (Missouri Salt Wood?) or Claro (California Salt Wood). If I'm wrong I don't think I will get hurt at the price. I'm just trying to talk myself out of another cartridge to load for.
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    Browning FN - Talk Me Out of It

    You can still get cases and possibly ammo (180 grain Oryx) from Norma USA. The ammo is still listed on their site and available from a few sources but I have seen it listed as discontinued on some sites. Cases are between the .300 Win Mag and .338 Win Mag in body length. It has a longer neck...
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    Browning FN - Talk Me Out of It

    1970 Browning (FN Mauser) High-Power Safari .308 Norma Magnum - 96% Condition plus missing rear sight. No signs of salt wood (no corrosion around cross bolts, or recoil pad bolts, no crumbly wood). The price feels like stealing. Talk me out of it.
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    Cheap $100 Scope

    Just a young man starting out with a wife and a young baby with a hand-me-down rifle and a 40 year old Bushnell that decided to give up.the ghost. For him $100 would be a stepup scope. If the Sightron S1 3-9x40 I gave him doesn't hold up I have à NIB Leopold VX1 2-7x40 that I got cheap on...
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    What Watch do you wear when you hunt?

    I hope I don't shock anyone but for hunting I usually wear a Casio G-Shock of some sort..
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    Cheap $100 Scope

    As far as I know Nightforce is supposed to make one scope with USA made glass. Everything else uses imported glass to the best of my knowledge.
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    Cheap $100 Scope

    I got to look through a $3,700 Vortex mounted on a long range target rifle and will say it appeared to be outstanding but I wouldn't expect anything else at that price point. I know the Crossfire II and Diamondback get good reviews at their price point and I certainly buy many Chinese products...
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    375 Ruger Scope Question Desperate Times (Possibly) Desperate Measures

    Target - 100 lb Pronghorn Primary Target Size - 8" Rifle Accuracy - Approximately 4" Group at 400 yards. Wind - 90-120 degrees (shifting), gusting from 15-25 mph. Rest - Side of an Arroyo Complicating factors - Ground vegetation and wind born dust. Margin for error (Adjusted for rifle accuracy)...
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    .308 Win vs .260 Rem/6.5 Creedmoor

    Well just so you know I don't currently own a 6.5CM, .308 Win or .30/06 so I tried to lay it out as honestly as I knew how. A 6.5 can do the job on a Gemsbuck but is on a light side and ammo will be cheaper on the .308 Win in your local and I would actually prefer a .30/06 with 180's on a...
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    375 H&H vs 300 H&H

    Sounds like.it works very similar to a.Nosler Partition which loses 50-100% of the lead in the front half. In high velocity strikes I've recovered Partitions that looked essentially like a wadcutter that bulged to slightly larger than caliber diameter at the front. They lost 100% of the front...
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    Is there a perfect plains game calibre?

    The truth is by it's very nature the perfect PG Caliber is a compromise. I've heard it said, "Weatherby has no place in Africa". I disagree, a more perfect Pronghorn Caliber than .257 Wby has never been created and it's just as great for Springbok. A .375 H&H is great for Eland but is it really...
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    .308 Win vs .260 Rem/6.5 Creedmoor

    The Creedmoor is simply a modem day equivalent to the 6.5x55. Gemsbok at 480 yards is not something I'm willing to do but the 6.5 at reasonable ranges with reasonably constructed bullets would in my opinion be adequate although on the light end for Gemsbok size game. You have a century worth of...
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    Opinions on 30-06

    Guys, I agree with the premise that the Pre-64 M70 is a great rifle and the current production M70 CRF as well. However the M70 Pushfeed is the most undervalued rifle on the planet. I've recently seen later model Pushfeeds (after they added the internal guide rail and fixed the homely stocks)...
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    What Is Better .308 or 30-06?

    With modern range finders the real issue is wind drift. At 400 yards with wind gusting between 15-25 mph and swinging between 90-120 degrees exactly when you trigger the shot can mean the difference between a perfect strike and a total miss on a Wyoming Pronghorn or a South African Springbok...
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    What Is Better .308 or 30-06?

    Depends on bullet weight. 150 gr = .30/06 +60 fps 180 gr = .30/06 +200 fps. If you are going to shoot 500 lb + animals the .30/06 is the way to go. For a 200 lb animal the minimal gain in velocity of the .30/06 isn't usually worth the drawbacks..
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    Am I Crazy?!? Or Did I Catch the Mid-Bore Bug?

    But without the .338 WM where would we get donor rifles for a JES rebore to .416 Ruger?
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    Primer backing out due to aeroplane altitude pressure changes?

    110% Charge Crimped 30' ASL to 12500' ASL (Unpressurized) Primers were fine.
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    Penetration Index & Energy

    Weight, frontal area and velocity are taken into consideration multiple times in that formula. As to actual testing any bullet that tumbles is going to drastically reduce penetration. This is why controlled expansion bullets can often out penetrate solids. They can be more stable. I don't think...
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    Am I Crazy?!? Or Did I Catch the Mid-Bore Bug?

    I'm just weird. Only explanation for why I like the .338 Federal and .35 Whelen so much.
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    What Would Bob Nelson think of a .358x57 Round?

    Many Midwestern states started out with a shotgun only deer rule (to limit maximum range of projectiles) and then later started allowing straight-wall cartridges .357 Magnum and up. Some of them;specifically prohibited the .444 Marlin or .45/70 due to range concerns hence the maximum case length...
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    Dumb question on Leupold M8 3X

    I believe a reticle change along with a reset of parallax from 150 to 60 yards was $100 last time I discussed it with them (that's been a few years and wouldn't be surprised if 50-100% more now) . Might be worth checking, I'm not sure it's actually worthwhile considering the current value of an...
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    Your 3 favorite hunting cartridges of all time

    Can't do three unless limited to center-fire: Honestly I could die a happy man with four rifles: Winchester M52 - .22 LR Winchester M70 FW (Pre-64) - .257 Roberts Winchester M70 Sporter (Pre-64) - .30/06 Custom .375 H&H based on modified Remington Model 30 Action or lightened P17 Enfield...
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    375 Ruger Scope Question Desperate Times (Possibly) Desperate Measures

    With a rifle with a 2 5-10 variable Shot 5x5 Shot Groups with each magnification at 100 yards. Discarded the worst and best groups of each and averaged the remaining three. Rounded to nearest 0.10". Cleaned barrel and fired 5 fouling shots before each set of 5x5. 4.0x - 0.7" 6.0x - 0.6" 10.0x...
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    Dumb question on Leupold M8 3X

    Your post made me consider getting out my old M8 out and using it. I discussed with Leupold the possibilty of replacing the seals and refilling with nitrogen/argon gas and they stated the service would be free of charge and they would do an internal and external mechanical inspection for any...
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    Dumb question on Leupold M8 3X

    As I recall Leupold said 1". I seem to recall 5 marks being 3" on mine, so around 0.6" per mark in actuality on my 4x.
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    Cheap $100 Scope

    I've actually been pretty lucky with cheaper optics through the years. I've got an old Simmons Whitetail Classic 6.5-20x50AO (Philippine made) that must have thousands of rounds on it. I think I paid $99.99 on sale for it from Midway. It's never been on anything but an old heavy weight .223...
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    Cheap $100 Scope

    I ended up just giving him a Sightron S1 3-9x40 that I bought at some point and never used on anything. Hopefully it will be reasonably durable. I've had pretty good luck with Philippine built optics through the years.
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    Cheap $100 Scope

    Thanks guys. I decided to just give him something I had laying around. The winner is... Sightron S1 3-9x40. It's still NIB. At least it's not Chinese (Made in the Philippines). It seems decently put together and I've seen worse glass. Guess we will see if it will hold a zero.
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    Cheap $100 Scope

    Helping a young guy find a lower budget replacement scope for an old Savage 110-FNS .30/06 (About 1990 production). I've heard a few good things about Athlon and could pick up their Neos 3-9x40 for about $90 new. Anyone have any experience with Athlon Scopes?
 
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