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It's a standard length action. I doubt you will get Lott ammo to feed reliably. The gun is also way too light for Lott loads.

Me too

The .416 cartridge is superior in every respect, but it kicks like a beast in anything but a fairly heavy rifle. The 9.3 on tbe other hand, has accounted for 1000s of buffsloes and recoil is significantly less in rifles of equal weights . That said , most 9.3s are quite light , so felt recoil...

The original factory load used a 510gr bullet over a heavily compressed powder charge (so heavy that that the bullets had to be glued into place). Whoever came up with that formula was confused, especially given the powders which were then available. 500gr should be viewed as the max projectile...

As far as I am aware, 2300 is current Hornady factory 500g Lott load, but they do use special propellants which are not available to us. and there are a number of bullet manufacturers who offer .458 cal bullets in 480gr or very close to that. The Rhino is a nice option for .458WM as it has 2...

Excellent article. I have a ZKK602 in .458WM. Personally, I find it unwieldy and do not like the way the rounds rattle about in the mag. .458s built on standard length actions with barrels cut to about 23"are a pleasure to use. The one advantage that the 602/550 actions offer is that you can...

That is properly scary!

.358 Norma Mag is arguably the best all-round African calibre ever invented. Just a pity that they are so hard to come by.

For those who are unfamiliar, it is quite unusual to encounter /hunt buffalo in such open country in these parts. it is becoming increasingly common with buffalo constantly being re-introduced into areas in which they have not occurred for many decades, but the norm remains hunting in anything...

Very Nice!

Stunning! Congrats!

I have several boxes of these in various calibres but have only used them in my 6.5x55. Performance was fine, but then the calibre is very easy on bullets. I plan to load some of the 250grainers in my .338WM, which is very hard on bullets, and will post a report in due course. On the issue of...

In fairness to the brand/manufacturer, their newer stocks have a metal bedding block and they do not seem to suffer from the same problem. That said, I still prefer the wooden stock as it gives the rifle better balance. BTW, and for anyone who may be interested, the CZ hogsback stock can be...

Bargain on running late - maybe very late!

I will do so. I am great fan of the Swift A frame and would like to be able to launch their 300gr bullet (or maybe a slightly lighter monolithic) at 2300-2400fps without powder compression or pressure issues. I think this should be achievable based on what I get from my .338 loads.

Thanks Bruce, that is really very useful. My thinking has been motivated in part by the fact that i regularly shoot .338WM and also own a .458WM which I use from time to time, so I have the necessary brass. I can also get pretty much as much free or cheap 375H&H brass as I could ever want...

Thanks a lot. I had a synthetic stock on my .458WM. The brand is common in this part of the world. It cracked from shooting off the bench - which is apparently also quite common, so I switched to a standard CZ550 stock (hogsback style) with double cross bolts. The CZ stock is known for its...

I have not had good experiences with synthetic stocks on big bangers.

Thanks Bruce. I am aware that the 9.3 x 64 initially had a reputation for eating bullets. I cant imagine this would be the case with modern bullets like the A frame. What concerns me more is that I think my CZ550 , being as light as it is, will probably belt like beast if I were to add 200fps.

The Swift A frame is an outstanding performer on heavy animals. On thin skinned, light boned animals expansion is limited and kills tend to be slower and less dramatic than with lighter , more frangible bullets like Nosler partition.

BTW, I would be really intrigued to hear the outcome of this experiment. I suspect the results may be less than fantastic regardless of propellant choice given the design of the cartridge and the barrel length , which is very short for this calibre , but would be interested to see.

Rhino bullets are outstanding

To be honest, you really don't need a solid in .416 (unless maybe you are trying running away shot - which you shouldn't), and there is a high risk of a pass through and injury to second animal on a broadside shot . Just load everything with your Swift A Frames (or a premium expanding monometal)...

Hi Gert. I cant find much on this calibre on the net - and what I can find is in German. What is the performance /how does it compare to the 9.3/338 , and does it fit into a medium length CZ550 action, or only in a full length magnum action? (The main appeal of the 9.3 for me is that it is handy...

I like that idea and will check it out.

I actually have 2 x 9.3 x 62 (both CZ's) and would love to add a 9.3 Alaskan (9.3/338). Have considered converting one of my 9.3x62's but I think the calibre calls for a heavier rifle

I have not used this calibre , but everyone who has speaks very highly of it, especially for bushveld hunting. Heavier bullets (200-220) are the norm and everyone I have spoken to says that the terminal effect is superior to the '06 - which is as one would expect given the larger diameter and...

To put all of that in perspective and to explain the point I was really seeking to make, Africa is not a single region with uniform terrain. True, when most people refer to Africa they mean places like the South African bushveld, Zambesi valley, etc. However there are also arid regions like the...

Velo Dog has it spot on, with maybe 1 exception. I own more than 10 rifles and have hunted pretty much the whole of Southern Africa. As he correctly says, it is rare to have to have to take a shot over 200m in these parts. In fact, ranges of around 75m are considered average in bushveld areas...

All depends on the circumstances. Lions generally leave one alone but can be very scary if they feel threatened or are actively hunting (as in need clean underpants scary. Likewise leopards are normally elusive, but I know of several instances in which people have been attacked completely...

An interesting article, to be sure. Have never seen one as the Lott has become the "go to", with some shorter cartridges like the African and Sabi now coming into favour.

A beaut!

It happens to this day. Some of it is the result of "buck fever", poor marksmanship, taking shots which are not on, etc , but a lot is also due to the use of calibres which are not sufficiently powerful to give a clean, one shot kill unless the shooter manages to hit the CNS. Most African game...

BRNO602's and CZ550.s are amongst the commonest heavy calibre rifles you will come across in use over here. In standard trim a Win Mod 70 does handle better than the full length 602/550 , but the tendency is to reduce barrel length to 23", which makes the rifle "handier". The medium length 550...

The cartridge was designed to around a long, heavy bullet so, as a rule, those provide good results. They also penetrate much better than lighter bullets - which is what the Swede is all about. Most modern rifles will work well with 140grn bullets , but will not group well with 120grn bullets...

Prof Mawla has answered. That said, its not that rare over here (SA). One does see more Lotts , but the Rigby is preferred by those who don't mind paying a bit extra to get the right thing. Other popular calibres here which you probably don't come across in USA are .458x3"; .458 African (uses...

Its basically as good as it gets. The only downside is the need for a full length magnum action, but ito performance it really doesn't get any better.

Agreed 100%. It is also a good way to get someone killed

Interesting thread. I am not a big fan of the .416 Rigby as there is no need for such a big case with modern propellants, and the rifles are indeed typically quite a bit bigger than the average .404. - much the same as 375H&H vs 9,3 x 62 or .375 Ruger. ITO felt recoil, stock design and overall...

The .450 Rigby is a superb cartridge. And I agree with Expresshunt. A PH was killed here some years back when the client's rifle snagged on branch and fell. The bullet (a 375) went straight through the PH , killing him instantly. No-one will ever know what exactly happened, but clearly the...

Either will work for a head or neck shot. DGX is a much better option if you go for a body shot. A lighter monolithic is a good option , especially if you are going to be hunting in open country

Not a big fan of the Nosler partitions. Deadly on thin skinned game and highly recommended for cats (because the front half literally blows up) but otherwise best avoided. The Swift A frame is a much tougher bullet and one which is much better suited to African game.

Cant argue with that!

375H&H plus 416 Rem Mag? Sounds like you just love buying new toys. Personally, i would just take the .416 and a lighter, flatter shooting rifle (I favour the .338WM , but there are many calibres to choose from ). Note also that most 375's actually perform quite well with 380 - 400gr bullets...

The 9.3 x 62 is a very popular as an all round rifle over here. I personally love the CZ550 in that calibre as it is much handier than any .375H&H (with the possible exception of a couple I would not buy) and it works very well on pretty much anything. Recoil is also mild when compared to big...

The Lott will almost certainly be loaded with a slightly slower powder.

As appears from posts earlier in this thread, I carry a .458WM in dangerous game territory and have done for about 20 years. I was initially unimpressed with the performance, but by handloading my cartridges to slightly longer than CIP (as recommended by Pierre Van Der Walt) , I have no problem...

That about sums it up. The .458WM is under capacity with 500g bullets. It performs adequately as a hard hitting close range calibre with 450g bullets , but that sort of defeats the purpose of having a large calibre weapon. For this reason you will find very few in use here. The Lott tends to be...

I totally agree. They work OK at fairly long ranges (200M plus); however there are better long range bullets - and they basically explode at bush ranges , with limited penetration and massive internal trauma. Definitely not suitable for thick skinned or heavy boned animals. The Sako hammerhead...

I couldn't agree more. .300WM is an excellent calibre. Bullets in the 165gr -180gr range work very well in open country. In bush country (e.g. Limpopo) opt for the heaviest bullet which performs well in your rifle. Monometal bullets work very well in the bush as they do not blow up. In open...