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  1. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 416 Ruger for an all-around rifle

    Well, I read thru the posts. There is a lot of good information and some less relevant asides. (Disclaimer: I've owned 338Wm (5), 375 Ruger (2), 416 Rigby (5), and a .510" wildcat built on one of the 375 Rugers. Currently, we have a 338 in the US and one in Africa, a 416Rigby in both, and a...
  2. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    Ammo-Guide lists both the 375 Ruger and the 375 H&H as recommending 62000 max-pressure (presumably in accord with SAAMI). Neither round should show any stickiness at those recommended pressures. Theoretically, the long taper of the H&H was designed for smooth extraction. However, nominal specs...
  3. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    I'm not sure about what this question is referring to. If the same velocities are produced with the same barrel length, then assuming equal bore quality, the Ruger will typically have lower pressure because it has a larger capacity. A larger capacity can use a slower powder, resulting in lower...
  4. Sighting-in of rifle

    Sighting-in of rifle

  5. Bullet Data & Performance

    Bullet Data & Performance

    Look carefully at the primers of the Rigby cases on the left. Nice. The 338 may be a tad hotter, a 225TTSX at 2835fps, but still smooth easy bolt lift and reasonable primers. We load to the old book levels of 4000ft#. The 338WM is a light Tikka and is probably as heavy a load as that action...
  6. Sighting-in of rifle

    Sighting-in of rifle

  7. Oribi Hunting

    Oribi Hunting

    Here is a 202-yard shot with the 416Rigby on a 35-pound oribi
  8. Hunt Impala

    Hunt Impala

  9. 350gn TSX Bullet Data & Performance

    350gn TSX Bullet Data & Performance

    Picture of a 350gn TSX shot into the face of a buffalo (70 yard) and recovered in the shoulder:
  10. Load of 350 gn TTSX in 416 Rigby

    Load of 350 gn TTSX in 416 Rigby

  11. 416Tanzan

    404 jeffery vs 416 Rigby

    Yes, quality bullets are fine in big bores these days. Of course, 6000 foot-pounds is easy for a 416Rigby. The impala shown in my post above was that way. Here is a shot of sighting-in a rifle in the bush, over the bonnet/hood of a vehicle. Before my son and I went out walking and looking for...
  12. 416Tanzan

    404 jeffery vs 416 Rigby

    As mentioned above, for only 2400fps and a 400gn bullet a person can use a 416Ruger. And I agree that heavier loads in a Rigby need some learning. See below. In my opinion, the main purpose in this century for getting a 416Rigby is to use the capacity for handloads. And handloads can avoid the...
  13. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    I partially agree on the WSM cartridges. However, the 375 Ruger is not a short fat cartridge and shouldn't be so compared. The 375 Ruger belongs to standard length actions that are used for the 7mmRM, 300WM, and 338WM. What's not to like? Those rounds are wildly popular and without complaints on...
  14. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    The Ruger feeds great. No issues, never heard of any issues related to this caliber. You are right about recoil and lighter rifles. A pound and a half may allow a rifle to jump a tad bit more. I'm not sure that we notice because we also have a very light Tikka in 338 that is 1 and 1/2lbs...
  15. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    OK, let's phrase the question positively: Why would anyone want a 375Ruger when the 375H&H already exists? For the same reason that the 300 Win Mag was developed. The 300 H&H already existed. The 300H&H was, and is, a great caliber. But the 300 Win Mag fit everything into a standard...
  16. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    Bill, The 375 H&H is a great plains game caliber. It is only 'broken" when trying to fit it onto a standard-length action. Thats why the 375 Ruger was developed--to put H&H power in a 30-06 action. They both do the job.
  17. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    Eric, thank you for that honest glimpse into what many of us go through when choosing a rifle or caliber. My wife and I looked at a lot of options before she choose a 375Ruger for Tanzania. The chief front runners were another 338WinMag in lefty, a 9.3x62 (Tikka?) and the 375 Ruger. But...
  18. 416Tanzan

    .505 Gibbs

    Since the discussion above a few years ago I have built a 500 **NOT**PERMITTED** Nyati. It is .510", using a Rigby-size case, but limited to 2.65" in order to fit a Ruger Hawkeye action. (Nyati refers to the throat configuration of a 0.255" freebore.) More importantly, this handles up to 7000...
  19. 416Tanzan

    404 jeffery vs 416 Rigby

    If someone wants a cartridge and rifle that handles easily with "minimum" recoil at this level, then the 416Ruger is truly the biggest bang for the buck these days. It will match and exceed factory 404 rounds. However, if someone is a handloader, then the 416Rigby is far and away the most...
  20. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    I shoot a 450gn GSC in a 500 at 2600fps. You can put a little crimp into the driving bands. Maybe this doesn't work on smaller caliber, but then again smaller caliber tend to be held in place by the extra neck tension. Of course, I ordered the Lee replacement pins that are .001" undersized to...
  21. 416Tanzan

    Best .338

    To the thread starter, The 270 works in Africa but a 338 definitely hits with more authority. I seen both in a lot of action in Africa. As many in the thread have testified, the 338 WinMag does everything you will need. Shots in Africa tend to be under 300 yards although in rare situations...
  22. 416Tanzan

    Left Handed shooters club!

    My wife, grandma of nine, shoots a 375 Ruger in a Ruger Alaskan 20" stainless with laminate, shortened stock. The picture below was taken just after firing. The Nikon Inline has 5" eye-relief which helps to keep the scope and eyebrows far apart. Proper holding is essential, of course. It is a...
  23. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    Rick Cox, Yes, my wife and I have worked through this in detail because we needed to make a personal decision. She wanted a rifle for Tanzania, having a 270 for US hunting. She looked at the 338WM, 9.3x62, and 375(s). Because of legalities, the 375 won out even though she doesn't plan on...
  24. 416Tanzan

    Large caliber's on a standard length action

    I think the easy approach to this question today is to choose the caliber to easily fit the action, or else choose the action for the desired caliber. If someone wants a standard-length action like the Ruger Hawkeye (or M98), then limit the caliber to the 375Ruger, 416Ruger, or 458WinMag...
  25. 416Tanzan

    375 Ruger vs 375 HH

    There are several solutions and follow up to this common problem. First, the Ruger Hawkeye has a rear-extended front ring that can be purchased (or traded with Ruger) that will allow the mounting of very short scopes. CZ also has a short base single-piece mounting option, though these must be...
  26. 416Tanzan

    9.3X62 for Cape Buffalo?

    9.3x62 is a great calibre and as was demonstrated earlier in this thread a person must check and see what the laws are for the particular country. For a country like Tanzania, one would be recommended to get at least a .375" (either H&H or Ruger, the law does not distinguish). Local hunters in...
  27. 416Tanzan

    New USA requirements in addition to the form 4457

    And what do US citizens do who are resident in an African country? Does one carry the firearm(s) everytime one makes a business trip to the US? Ridiculous!
  28. 416Tanzan

    404 jeffery vs 416 Rigby

    As mentioned, the 416 Rigby allows handloading up to 6100+ ftlbs.
  29. 416Tanzan

    404 jeffery vs 416 Rigby

    The shooter gets to rock and roll. It's comforting when walking after a buffalo. 6100ftlbs, 350gn at 2820 fps.
  30. 416Tanzan

    Free Hunt for One Hunter & One Observer from Arc Africa Hunting Safaris for 2015

    Here is the reaction of a game scout after seeing the buffalo DOWN:
  31. 416Tanzan

    9.3X62 for Cape Buffalo?

    I think I would prefer the .510" solid over the .366", and just up the velocity to something more authoritative. Everything is a trade-off and choice according to physics.
  32. 416Tanzan

    9.3X62 for Cape Buffalo?

    You might consider a 375 Ruger in a Ruger Hawkeye as an inexpensive upgrade to a 9.3 or 375. Then you can have a smaller, lighter rifle that is legal everywhere. The CZ is a great practical rifle but it is big and a tad heavy, so better suited to a 416Rigby or 458Lott.
  33. 416Tanzan

    404 jeffery vs 416 Rigby

    Most of the above comments are valid when discussing factory ammunition. However, if one handloads, then the capacity of a cartridge may come into play. For example, Layne Simpson, in an article for Rifle Jan-Feb 1989, listed "high-velocity" Rigby loads as a subsection of his testing a...
  34. 416Tanzan

    Anyone have a pet .416 Rigby load?

    R-17 refers to Reloder 17, a powder introduced a year or two ago, reasonably dense for packing a lot of powder, med-slow like 4350, and with a rounded peak pressure curve for higher velocities. On heavier bullets, those are not necessary with all-copper bullets. Lighter all-copper bullets...
  35. 416Tanzan

    Anyone have a pet .416 Rigby load?

    The 416 Rigby has a case capacity that needs faster powder that H4831 in order to take advantage of its potential. I use 102.5 grains R-17 in Hornady brass, 215M-match primer, with Barnes 350 grain TSX and FN-solid. Velocity is 2860 fps in African sun. No pressures signs: the primers are...
  36. 416Tanzan

    Best Caliber for plainsgame in Africa ? Your opinion

    And IlCapo With Burris on the heavier calibres one needs to check eye-relief. Many of the Burris scopes go down to 3.1" inch eye-relief at the higher magnifications, though a couple of them only go down to 3.5" at the high setting. Personally, I prefer to stay closer to 4" at the high...
  37. 416Tanzan

    Best Caliber for plainsgame in Africa ? Your opinion

    Something happens after you've been around buffalo. All of a sudden a single shove of a rifle is reassuring rather than intimidating. I would absolutely agree that a person should first show that they can handle the rifle, but that being a given, even Jack OConnor liked the .416 Rigby at just...
  38. 416Tanzan

    Best Caliber for plainsgame in Africa ? Your opinion

    It's the bullet that does the work. And that needs to be remembered in all these many posts. Of the above calibres, I have used all on African plains game except the 358s and the 308. So let's think about a platform for a bullet. A bullet needs to be prepared for a poor scenario...
  39. 416Tanzan

    .505 Gibbs

    I'm not sure that we're disagreeing, though I can see how my post may have miscommunicated. I, too, would advocate most anything 50 cal over the 416 Rigby for buffalo. My point, was that the 505 Gibbs has a monster powder volume. It longs for a shoving flat ballistic. If such volume is not used...
  40. 416Tanzan

    .505 Gibbs

    Very nice picture of a great gun. My son and I have talked of a 505 Gibbs. But price does weigh in. After the relatively expensive CZ factory price 250 percent over the their 416 Rigby field model, one must add special reloading tools for the large 505 cases. I figure the whole rifle would...
  41. 416Tanzan

    Managing Recoil

    I'm glad to hear of the hunters using their big bores for non-dangerous game before taking on dangerous game. My recommendation, in line with the above, is to take a reedbuck, warthog, or waterbuck with the bigbore before going after Mr. Nyati. There is nothing like taking a game animal with a...
 
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