MOZAMBIQUE: Nhoro Safaris

That's good too hear scar. I look forward too hearing about you're hunt when it's over and pics would be nice. I have talked too Gordon seemed like a nice upfront gentleman I'm wanting too do the same buffalo hunt in Mozambique I had planned on being able too make it happen in2014 . But unfortunately some things came up and there is no way that hunt will happen then. Look forward too hearing how you're trip transpires
 
In my previous note, I didn't go in to any details; I was just giving some reassurance that Gordon Stark is a person of integrity who had a lot of experience an could line you up on a good hunt...and keep you from getting killed.

But if you want details, I'll elaborate. Gordon will tell you the same with respect to the PAC elephant hunts, if you call to inquire about one of them. The PAC elephant hunts in Zim are done through a licensed local PH in Zimbabwe. They are PAC hunts, so NOTHING is exportable, other than a picture; the meat, skin and tusks belong to the locals. NOTE: I've heard from several sources that a regular hunt in Zimbabwe, where you might shoot a 40lb elephant that is exportable, will probably take you 3 years to get the ivory out. You better be able to trust the person(s) doing the paperwork or you'll never see it, because it may never leave the country or get seized at the port of entry for a paperwork screw up.

With Nhoro, all the dangerous game hunts will be with at least 2 PH's; in the case of the PAC hunts it will be a local PH with Zimbabwe license who lined up the permitted hunt, as well as one or two from Nhoro. If you go on a lion hunt in South Africa in the Kalahari, same thing, there will be a licensed PH from whatever game farm you may be hunting on as well as one or two from Nhoro. Any PH from South Africa hunting in Zim is going to be going through a licensed PH in Zimbabwe; if they tell you otherwise, they are lying or doing something illegal (as the previous expert stated). Zimbabwe is pretty screwed up right now; you better know who you are hunting with before you book a hunt up there. Be very skeptical of outfitters in the US booking hunts with so called licensed PH's in Zimbabwe. Licensed, or not, they may be a worthless F*#$ that will get you in a bind or screw you out of some money. Again, you need to trust who you ar hunting with. Any of these so called good deals in Zimbabwe, especially for buffalo, may not be a good deal.... there people who are actually scratching on buffalo hunts in Zim these days.

One other tidbit on PAC hunts... I'm no expert, but I believe the only persons that are allowed to do PAC hunt in South Africa are SA citizens, so if you see an advertisement for some type of PAC hunt in SA for an outsider, it's probably illegal. I've seen some of those floating around the internet as well.

If you have your heart set on going directly with someone living in Zimbabwe AND want someone who has their own concession AND is licensed in Zimbabwe, I've heard good things about Jimba Safaris. They are relatively close to Victoria Falls and you don't have to mess with going through Harare. There were some guys that flew back with us on the last trip who had a great trip.


Elephant PAC hunts in Zimbabwe are ILLEGAL for non-Zim citizens. They cannot be sold to foreigners. Most are now used for apprentice PH experience.

I am not sure who ffow is or if he represents Nhoro or if Nhoro is selling PACs but the fact is PACs are illegal, does not matter if a zim PH is conducting the hunt.

That I know of no management quota is issued either, that could change or maybe it has, but make sure before booking any elephant hunt that is not exportable especially a bull elephant hunt. Tuskless are the exception.
 
Gordon does not operate in Zim anymore I believe he has been out of it for a I spoke with Gordon many years ago and he as myself and you Mike was very opinionated then already about so called PAC hunts.... I'm sure he'll jump in some time.

The entire idea behind marketing a PAC safari/shoot is complete BS, how can one market a PAC before it becomes a problem....

My best always.
 
The entire idea behind marketing a PAC safari/shoot is complete BS, how can one market a PAC before it becomes a problem....

Agreed, if the PAC system had not been abused it was a good deal for hunters in the right place at the right time.

Be sure to understand I was not saying Gordon was conducting PAC hunts, as I do not know who the "ffow" guy is. That is the new and improved me.
 
He he Mike... SA is quickly going down the same PAC route it has become a problem everywhere it has been offered as you well know.... Moz, Zim and SA is on the way,,,,

I have simple advice for potential hunters if it says PAC ...;.... STAY AWAY...

My best always

PS good to have ya back uncle M!!! :)
 
Gordon Stark is a true gentleman , highly skilled PH and i can assure you that he is now offering the best buffalo hunt in all Mozambique !
I know some of his PHs and all of them are really top notch , you just cannot go wrong with this guy.
 
Could not agree more! PAC stay away! PAC hunts are illegal in Mozambique and only the PH is allowed to deal with it (this is endorsed on the back of a Mozambique PH licence) - however district government officials "allow" these hunts with a back hander! I have an official letter from the director of wildlife in Mozambique stating these hunts are illegal. Furthermore I live in Mozambique (since 1995) and can vouch for many regulations!
 
My good friend and hunting partner Frank Fowler and I have hunted with Gordon Start co-owner of Nhoro Safaris and I'll emphasize what Frank has already stated about Gordon and his outfitting operations. Gordon is old school in that his word is his bond and its not often you can trust someone to back you in a life threatening situation when hunting dangerous game. He runs top camps with excellent foor and housing, very reliable transportation and has established a best-practice netwrok of trophy care and shipping so you know when your trophies are picked up that they are in the best hands possible. As Frank stated earlier, his Limpopo concession has some of the highest quality plains game I've seen. My favority young PH, Juan Steenkamp, has worked with Gordon for several years and I trusted him to back me on my lion hunt this past November and I'll trust him again on our Cape Buffalo hunt coming up in Mozambique this September. Gordon and his partner Chris run a top-flight outfitting business and have numerous repeat clients and doesn't advertise. All his business is word of mouth from his repeat customers. The Cape Buffalo herds he hunts on his Mozambique concession are some of the largest in Africa. I would recommend Gordon to the hunter who is willing to hunt for hunt for his trophies rather than sit in ablind all day at a water hole and shooting what shows up. His rates are not lowest and certainly not the highest, but dollar for dollar, the hunter who hunts with Nhoro gets every pennies worth of value and commitment to make sure your hunt is something you'll fondly remember and anxiously wait until the next season to book with him!

Hi Scar ,

Did tou hunt with Nhoro this September as you said ?

Which company and area ?

Where in Mozambique and how was the hunt ?

We are all interested to know about your experience with Gordon - please give us some news .

Cheers
 

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