Possible meat shortages soon

Always better to beg forgiveness than ask permission. That's my motto in times like that

BigSteve57 said:

The required safety distances and other regulations for hunting deer, even with a bow, preclude it in my back yard.
I have however, considered acquiring a clover trap and once a deer is trapped walking up and hitting it over the head with a brick.

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AES said:

Preppers, relax, there isn't going to be a meat or cheese shortage anytime soon. Everyone just calm down and burger on.

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Glad I went to the Rockin G Ranch to meet @gizmo 2 months ago, and brought home a young bison and hog. My larder is filled. Stopped by my local Kroger store today, meat was not scarce, compared to earlier visits. And even saw stacks of TP!

BigSteve57 said:

I've sat on State game lands freezing my arse off for days coming up empty handed and this is what I get in my back yard!
I wouldn't care so much that they eat absolutely EVERYTHING in sight if I could just shoot 'em and throw them in the freezer.
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Hate to be picky but unless that is an unusual axis in an unusual location, you didn't take that picture this month. Just saying......... But good try!

Trogon said:

Glad I went to the Rockin G Ranch to meet @gizmo 2 months ago, and brought home a young bison and hog. My larder is filled. Stopped by my local Kroger store today, meat was not scarce, compared to earlier visits. And even saw stacks of TP!

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I'll be right over!

Red Leg said:

Hate to be picky but unless that is an unusual axis in an unusual location, you didn't take that picture this month. Just saying......... But good try!

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You're right! Good catch the picture was taken last fall. Sorry I didn't mean to imply I just took the picture. I see them all year; I just don't happen to have any pictures during winter/hunting season. He's pretty typical though. I've seen two his size just wandering around munching on shrubs, flowers and anything else they choose. I once chased a big doe off our front porch eating the flowers my wife had potted there.

But the point remains that I get that sized animal in my back yard and when I'm in the woods hunting it's usually a ghost town deer-wise. Given the damage that they do and facing a possible meat shortage IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING to me that I can't take one.

I have seen more shootable bucks in my yard over the last few years than I ever did while hunting here in WA state.

No meat shortages on this farm! If you know how to butcher your own, which most of us do, there is about to be a huge meat surplus. Those who think their meat grows in a styrofoam tray, wrapped under plastic, can go pound sand up their arses.

AES said:

Preppers, relax, there isn't going to be a meat or cheese shortage anytime soon. Everyone just calm down and burger on.

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This morning I looked at the National Agriculture Statistics Service website. As of their last graph update, there are over 2 BILLION pounds of beef, pork, pork bellies, chicken, and turkey in cold storage.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyson get sued for the ad they ran. It's price fixing. Drive up the price for their box meat, while driving down the price on farmers and ranchers and creating an oversupply of livestock.

At Walmart on 4/28, I saw chicken, pork, ham, fish and beef and at regular prices.

Hogpatrol said:

At Walmart on 4/28, I saw chicken, pork, ham, fish and beef and at regular prices.

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I was in Kroger in north dallas on Monday night... and was in Walmart last night... both were fully stocked on all meats.. all at normal prices..

A guy that works with me that lives in East TN.. and another one that lives in Southeast Virginia on the other hand are reporting shortages.. The stores arent completely out.. but selections are limited and unit numbers are low..

Typical bullsh## put out by liberal news just to keep everyone dumb enough to believe it

AES said:

Preppers, relax, there isn't going to be a meat or cheese shortage anytime soon. Everyone just calm down and burger on.

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Petey J said:

This morning I looked at the National Agriculture Statistics Service website. As of their last graph update, there are over 2 BILLION pounds of beef, pork, pork bellies, chicken, and turkey in cold storage.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyson get sued for the ad they ran. It's price fixing. Drive up the price for their box meat, while driving down the price on farmers and ranchers and creating an oversupply of livestock.

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No doubt Tyson knows how to take advantage of any disaster to make a profit.

But if I did my math correctly that 2 billion pounds of meat is about 6 pounds per person in the USA. So yea, lots extra. But if needed in an emergency, really not a whole lot.

ActionBob said:

No doubt Tyson knows how to take advantage of any disaster to make a profit.

But if I did my math correctly that 2 billion pounds of meat is about 6 pounds per person in the USA. So yea, lots extra. But if needed in an emergency, really not a whole lot.

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That is just what is in cold storage, and doesn't account for what is already in freezers at home, the fresh meat that is still being slaughtered, the wild game in freezers, stored in locker plants (my folks and our family probably have 1,000 pounds or more between 4 chest freezers in two houses, plus 3 or 4 locker drawers).

And how much meat does the average person consume per day? According the North American Meat Institute, the average male in the U.S. consumes 4.8 oz of meat per day, and women consume 3.13 oz of meat per day.

It's nice to know I'm way above average in something important. 4.8 oz of meat barely constitutes a single meal.

Local Kroger has whole pork shoulders on sale 99 cents a pound.....most of the processors in the Midwest are shut down....local small town meat lockers are going to be the best source IF there is a shortage....local Amish community will always be a alternative supplying my area. Central Illinois...small towns galore.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eo-food-supply-trouble-coronavirus-lockdowns/
A farmer named Shad Sullivan warned in a viral video that “[America’s] food supply is in trouble.”

Sullivan added, “We are euthanizing millions of chickens. We are aborting sows and burying feeder pigs. We are dumping milk by the hundreds of thousands of gallons. And now they are preparing us to depopulate the fat cattle ready to harvest because of a bottleneck created by the effects of COVID.”

A Delaware poultry plant made the “difficult, but necessary” decision to euthanize 2 million chickens in order to financially cope with plant closures.

Farmers are outraged that subpar imported meat continues to flow into America despite warnings to American farmers to put down their own livestock.

“Yesterday, the first shipment of imported beef from the country of Namibia hit the shores of the United States of America,” said Sullivan. “And yet this morning they are telling us to prepare to euthanize harvest-ready cattle.”

Sullivan questioned, “Am I the only one who sees a problem in this?”

President Trump has ordered the nation’s meat plants to remain open under new safety guidelines using the Defense Production Act.

The President also stated that his administration will provide plant workers with protective gear.

Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds stated that her administration is working closely with food producers to avoid shortages.

“It is essential that we not only protect the workforce but that we keep our processing plants open so that we can keep the food supply chain moving or we’re going to really be dealing with some significant issues going forward,” warned Gov. Reynolds.

Tyson Foods Chairman John Tyson warned that meat plant bottlenecks may cause retail meat prices to temporarily rise across grocery stores and restaurants.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eo-food-supply-trouble-coronavirus-lockdowns/

I recall a wheat/grain problem in the 1970s due to lag in the production consumption cycle, followed by similar problems with beef as the ecology (original definition) worked its way through the various supply systems. Appears "they" have yet to learn the lesson that 1. you cannot make a change in one sector without having that change lead to changes in other sectors; and 2. The amount of time to prepare a product for market will only be a small fraction of the time it will take to recover from a depletion in the resource; and 3, The depletion of one resource will have extensive effects on following resource/products.

Ray B said:

I recall a wheat/grain problem in the 1970s due to lag in the production consumption cycle, followed by similar problems with beef as the ecology (original definition) worked its way through the various supply systems. Appears "they" have yet to learn the lesson that 1. you cannot make a change in one sector without having that change lead to changes in other sectors; and 2. The amount of time to prepare a product for market will only be a small fraction of the time it will take to recover from a depletion in the resource; and 3, The depletion of one resource will have extensive effects on following resource/products.

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As a teenager in the early 70s, I do remember the shortage of beef products in the U.S. I don’t remember the reason though? My dad went out and bought a freezer and partial side of beef. SO FAR, what’s happening here now doesn’t seem to be of the same magnitude? I guess time will tell? But, we’ve got plenty of elk and some moose meat in the freezer. I’ve given some to a neighbor with three kids and who isn’t currently working. He greatly appreciated it. Enough to go around!

Due to nothing other than media fueled angst, meat panic buying started in our area a few days ago, replacing toilet paper.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/l...purchase-limits-on-meat-products-15237627.php

I also remember numerous shortages in the 1970's:
Beef
Sugar
Paper
are the ones that stick out in my mind. Teachers had to let us use both front and back sides of notebook paer; previously it was up to each individual teacher many would have individual policy anything written on the back side would be ignored.

Mr. Zorg said:

Due to nothing other than media fueled angst

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No, it is more than media manipulation. The shortages of the 1970a were the results of LBJ and his spending for the VietNam conflict and the War on Poverty which resulted in inflation. To curb this LBJ and Nixon implemented government interference in the marketplace aka price controls. A sector was targeted but as in all systems there are unintended consequences that rippled through the system. Then OPEC jumped in and added their greed to the mix and the ripples became tidal waves. It took several years for things to settle down and reach equilibrium.

The hope of the government this time around is that they could place the economy on "pause" as one does a television show. Things are going along fine, then the viewer wants to get a drink from the refrigerator so the show gets put on pause, then when the viewer is back the play button is hit and the show resumes exactly where it stopped and now at the same speed as before the pause. Unfortunately, the economy doesn't work that way. It may appear that a restaurant can be operating at full capacity, then close for the emergency, with a government payment to the employees to match what they would have received in wages/tips and the owner allowed to borrow funds to pay the overhead, then when the emergency has passed, the open sign goes out and things pickup just where they left off. But there are things that won't pause. In general terms, there was a supply chain with perishable product. If not delivered and used, the product spoils. Just as the fiascos of the 70's, there are ripples that if allowed to persist will turn into tidal waves.

The present situation is a new situation and the various agencies are working through the problems as best they can, but in my opinion the governors that are putting up roadblocks to the resumption of business and social interaction in the effort avert political risk are being short-sighted and dim-witted and should be voted out the next election.

@Ray B went to Sam's Club this afternoon after a long delayed (classified previously as elective) pain management clinic Dr. appointment and saw full meat cases available to us the retail public (plus TP!). So my prior post stands. HEB supermarkets in San Antonio, Texas re-instituted purchasing limits on meats as the web link shows was due to panic buying locally earlier this week.

So tell us why Walmart Sam's Club, Sprouts, Target, etc. don't currently have meat purchase limits where I live. Earlier this week there was no joke panic buying but none at alternate retail points of sale in my area.

Posts by others earlier in this thread gave delineated meat in storage and no panic buying of meat in their areas, including members in other parts of Texas.