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Red Leg said:

Nope. They’re fundamentalists.

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Gotta drink that 160 proof straight up or nothing for some of them.

Obviously a lot of you don't live in Pennsylvania . The state liquor stores are closed. Thankfully I stocked up on gin while I was in new Hampshire a few weeks ago
Thankfully there is no shortage of tonic water
Cheers

Did anyone notice the TARGETED approach that the smart Governor of South Dakota implemented? She has ordered all people over 65 and people with underlying conditions to stay home in the most populated counties with the most cases. Everybody else can work. Way better than this ridiculous shotgun approach that is causing a DEPRESSION!! Wake up America. We cannot save EVERY life and there will be a few younger people without underlying conditions that die but it is less than .9%. Let's get back to work!

Scott CWO said:

Did anyone notice the TARGETED approach that the smart Governor of South Dakota implemented? She has ordered all people over 65 and people with underlying conditions to stay home in the most populated counties with the most cases. Everybody else can work. Way better than this ridiculous shotgun approach that is causing a DEPRESSION!! Wake up America. We cannot save EVERY life and there will be a few younger people without underlying conditions that die but it is less than .9%. Let's get back to work!

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We like her. She grew up on a farm and took it over when her father was killed in a farming accident. Has since opened a hunting lodge on her farm. Very pro 2nd amendment. Lots of common sense. Libs hate her.

Scott CWO said:

Did anyone notice the TARGETED approach that the smart Governor of South Dakota implemented? She has ordered all people over 65 and people with underlying conditions to stay home in the most populated counties with the most cases. Everybody else can work. Way better than this ridiculous shotgun approach that is causing a DEPRESSION!! Wake up America. We cannot save EVERY life and there will be a few younger people without underlying conditions that die but it is less than .9%. Let's get back to work!

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Too bad all politicians dont use logic and common sense.

"Epidemiologist studied at Yale University.
Jonathan Smith is with Gregg Gonsalves and 5 others. 19 March at 19:33

.................... Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups, the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place.

The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. ..............."

Why bother.

Brent in Az said:

Too bad all politicians dont use logic and common sense.

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Could not agree more.

BRICKBURN said:

"Epidemiologist studied at Yale University.
Jonathan Smith is with Gregg Gonsalves and 5 others. 19 March at 19:33

.................... Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups, the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place.

The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. ..............."

Why bother.

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Where is that from?

Pheroze said:

Where is that from?

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Post #1101 in this thread.
His full details are in the post.

BRICKBURN said:

"Epidemiologist studied at Yale University.
Jonathan Smith is with Gregg Gonsalves and 5 others. 19 March at 19:33

.................... Study after study demonstrates that even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups, the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place.

The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption but very little public health benefit. ..............."

Why bother.

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Perhaps but the Governor of SD at least cannot be accused of doing nothing while still allowing the economy to survive.

Australian sky news interview about among other things the WHO and China...and manufacturing

Following on from the BCG post above....but who knows....as the WHO don't....

South Africa might just get lucky - this might not all come to pass but at least there’s hope.
By Alan Knott-Craig (SA Author)
In February, our country was in bad shape.
Our stock market was over-heated.
We were heading for a recession.
We were heading for a downgrade.
And then Covid19 happened.
Our stock market collapsed.
We’re now in a recession.
We’ve now been downgraded.
Before Covid19, Cyril Ramaphosa was bogged down in ANC political in-fighting, and Eskom was load-shedding every week.
Cyril now has no political opposition, everyone is too busy scrambling to fight the pandemic.
Eskom has stopped load-shedding thanks to the national lockdown easing demand from businesses.
Before progressing, let’s acknowledge that it is possible that this is Armageddon.
Health, economic and political Armageddon. The end.
Millions could die. Millions could lose jobs. Political upheaval could ensue.
Ok, got that.
But it’s also possible that Covid19 is the best thing to happen to SA since the 2010 Soccer World Cup. South Africa sailed through the Global Financial Crisis thanks to the state-sponsored infrastructure projects for the 2010 World Cup.
We were lucky.
By some bizarre irony, our country’s ongoing battle against TB may just be lucky too.
It may just turn out that most South Africans are safe because it’s mandatory to have a Bacille Calmette-Guerin (BCG) vaccination when they are born to prevent life-threatening TB later on.
"We found that countries without universal policies of BCG vaccination, such as Italy, the Netherlands, and the United States, have been more severely affected compared to countries with universal and long-standing BCG policies," noted the researchers led by Gonzalo Otazu, assistant professor of biomedical sciences at NYIT.
Sounds pretty hopeful. And the early evidence confirms it.
Let’s compare Spain to Portugal.
Portugal forces BCG vaccinations at birth, Spain doesn’t.
As of 5 April 2020:
· Portugal: 10,524 cases, 266 deceased. 0,1% infection rate. 2,5% death rate.
· Spain: 126,128 cases, 34,219 deceased. 0,27% infection rate. 27% death rate.
Spaniards are almost 3x more likely to get Covid19, and 10x more likely to die.
India, like Portugal, administers the BCG vaccine to millions of children soon after birth to combat TB (tuberculosis). And like Portugal, Indian has seen a much lower infection rate, especially when you consider the higher risk of infection due to cramped living conditions and poverty.
And yet the USA, where there are no mandatory BCG vaccinations, has the highest number of infections, in spite of the USA’s being is 4x smaller, 28x richer and 13x less populated than India’s.
Thanks to South Africa’s mandatory BCG vaccination policy, we may just be less affected than many countries in the world.
We may just be able to end the national lockdown, and re-start the economy.
Ending the lockdown will benefit SA in seven ways:
1. Millions of jobs will be saved. Millions of families will be rescued from economic hardship.
2. Universal BCG vaccination gives our country a comparative advantage over countries that don’t, i.e.: all developed countries, and all developing countries that don’t have the systems and/or economic means to enforce mandatory vaccinations.
3. Cyril Ramaphosa can use the economic crisis as leverage to implement the much-needed structural economic reforms our country needs, without the ANC in-fighting that has previously hamstrung his efforts.
4. People have opened their eyes to the power of online education. No need to have the world’s best math teacher living in Butterworth. No need to print and deliver millions of textbooks. No matter where you live, you can have a world-class education (assuming you have affordable broadband).
5. Less flying and driving. Even the most hide-bound of executives have now been forced to telecommute. Turns out it ain’t so hard. Good for traffic. Good for the climate.
6. It means Eskom’s grid can take a breather whilst essential maintenance is carried out and IPP’s prepare for selling directly to customers, reducing our reliance on Eskom, ultimately creating a stronger and more resilient power grid.
7. It means the Moody and Fitch downgrades are pretty meaningless. Everyone is being downgraded.
Ending the national lockdown will be the best thing that our government can do to save our economy.
If the positive scenario pans out, South Africa will be the equivalent of a golfer hitting a duck hook into the water, ricocheting off a submerged rock, bouncing back to the green, and the ball coming to a rest three feet from the pin.
We may just be pretty damn lucky.
The whole world is in it together, but, by some miracle, SA might be the best place to be in it.

This about Swedens approach to the virus

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-response-sweden-avoids-isolation-economic-ruin/

Wrong facts Mike, as of today Spain has 152.446 cases, and 15.238 deaths.

I have to add that we are the second country in the world with the highest life expectancy, (first is Japan), which means that a very large percentage of those that died are very old people. Once the virus gets into a nursing home, its mayhem.

I am reading a lot of comparisons between counties, and most don´t make much sense, as they dont´t go deep enough into the different variables.

Bwana Bob said:

Obviously a lot of you don't live in Pennsylvania . The state liquor stores are closed. Thankfully I stocked up on gin while I was in new Hampshire a few weeks ago
Thankfully there is no shortage of tonic water
Cheers

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The DE State Police are stopping people at the borders. Most are looking for liquor to bootleg back home in Pennsy.

We're being played like a banjo fellas.........given that bottom feeding atty's and politicians are involved, who could possibly be surprised? Not to mention the Chicom WHO......

Scott CWO said:

Did anyone notice the TARGETED approach that the smart Governor of South Dakota implemented? She has ordered all people over 65 and people with underlying conditions to stay home in the most populated counties with the most cases. Everybody else can work. Way better than this ridiculous shotgun approach that is causing a DEPRESSION!! Wake up America. We cannot save EVERY life and there will be a few younger people without underlying conditions that die but it is less than .9%. Let's get back to work!

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Scott, I agree that was the way to go for ND but I doubt it'd work in the major metro areas. Sorry to say but a lot of people living in them don't have enough sense to get in out of the rain and without government intervention would have turned in to no man's lands. Hell, they're still shooting up the streets even with the pandemic. A couple days ago in Chester, PA, a seven year old girl was killed in a drive by shooting. On that note, at least the gangs in Capetown have signed a truce for now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-a...rus-inspired-a-gangland-truce-in-south-africa

IHME reduces their model predictions......yet again.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ay-peak-easter-60000-deaths-like-typical-flu/

The numbers are down because people are doing what was recommended, staying away from other people.