Food supplies

nztimb · Mar 31, 2020

Supplies Are Starting To Get Really Tight Nationwide As Food Distribution Systems Break Down

https://www.prisonplanet.com/supplies-are-starting-to-get-really-tight-nationwide-as-food-distribution-systems-break-down.html

mdwest · Mar 31, 2020

Im not seeing that at all...

I'm actually seeing the opposite..

The Kroger (grocery store) in my neighborhood has probably 90% recovered from the initial hording runs.. The meats have been fully stocked the last couple of times I have been in there.. canned good are back up to probably 80% or better now.. plenty of fresh produce.. etc.. about the only thing you still cant reliably get is toilet paper and hand sanitizer..

The Target (big box retailer that also has a large grocery section) appears to be 100% recovered with the exception of paper products and hand sanitizer.. they are getting TP and sanitizer daily.. they just continue to sell out every day by about 10AM.. )

The Walmart in my area is also back to pretty close to 100%.. like the others, they still cant get caught up on paper for your butt.. but other than that, you wouldnt have a clue there has been a problem.. theyve got bread on the shelves, milk and eggs in the cold food sections, lots of fresh produce out, etc..

All of this is in North Dallas.. Im not sure what the rest of the US looks like.. but, I'm not seeing any real problems here (at least not in the short term).. Im thinking if the 4th largest city in the US can continue to keep supplies coming in and feed its population fairly easily.. an average urban area shouldnt have any issues either..

A good buddy of mine that lives in rural western Virginia says he literally has seen zero impact at all in the grocery stores.. They didnt have a hoarding problem in his little community (only about 5000 people in his entire county).. and he has been able to buy anything he wants/needs (to include toilet paper) all along..

nztimb · Mar 31, 2020

Same here but if the reports noted has any merrit then it may not be the immediate restocking of the shelves but the restocking of the warehouses so that may take time to effect the retail outlets in some areas and if supplying countries have reduced their exports then that will eventually filter down to the local supermarket. On that score NZ is very well placed so when I read that piece I thought it may be worth a read and a comment from those who may (or may not) be effected.

mdwest · Mar 31, 2020

ultimately the supply chain has to be impacted for a little while at a couple of different points I would think..

assuming the argument that Americans eat at restaurants a lot (I can confirm this is true).. and that now they are eating at home more (definitely true in my house).. its not really a consumption problem (we're all still eating the same.. or roughly the same amount of food).. but I do see a potential distribution problem.. since restaurants tend to buy in bulk, and households by smaller portions that are containerized differently, etc..

and the warehouses and distribution centers that support individual consumers are different than the distribution centers that support major food retailers..

I dont know, but I would guess for example that Hardin Sysco (huge food distributor for restaurants, hospitals, stadiums, prisons, etc. here in the US) is probably sitting on a ton of stock right now as restaurants, bars, and stadiums are either closed or doing very limited business.... and the warehouses for the major grocers in the US like Kroger, Publix, etc might be struggling to keep up with the increased demand as Americans start eating at home rather than buying 3x meals a week at McDonalds, Buger King, and Chik-Fil-A..

We are certainly living in interesting times right now..

CAustin · Mar 31, 2020

The only thing I see a problem with in a community of 300,000 people is toilet paper. No store has any and when they get some anybody in there buys it up. Thank goodness my wife has both a Costco and Sams card so when she buys that stuff she buys the big cases of toilet paper and paper towels. She had just bought both right before this COVID19 stuff started.
So it’s just the two of us in a house with 5 and 1/2 bathrooms which were fully stocked under the sinks so we can always consolidate from on room to another if need be. Sooner or later production will catch up with the buying and the shelves will be full again.

BRICKBURN · Mar 31, 2020

Is this a pure FAKE NEWS site or just an uninformed speculative opinion?
Not one factual source to support the premise statement.

"Desperate people have been running out to the grocery stores to stock up on toilet paper only to find that they are limited to one or two packages if it is even available."
"And now that “panic buying” of seeds has begun, it is probably only a matter of time before many stores start running out.
We have reached a major turning point in our history, and things are only going to get crazier.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans still have absolutely no idea what is ahead of us…"

The world will truly end if you do not have four hundred rolls of TP in each household.
Limiting consumers to one or two packages of toilet paper. What an outrage!
What is President Trump going to do about this?

CoElkHunter · Mar 31, 2020

BRICKBURN said:
Is this a pure FAKE NEWS site or just an uninformed speculative opinion?
Not one factual source to support the premise statement.

"Desperate people have been running out to the grocery stores to stock up on toilet paper only to find that they are limited to one or two packages if it is even available."
"And now that “panic buying” of seeds has begun, it is probably only a matter of time before many stores start running out.
We have reached a major turning point in our history, and things are only going to get crazier.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans still have absolutely no idea what is ahead of us…"

The world will truly end if you do not have four hundred rolls of TP in each household.
Limiting consumers to one or two packages of toilet paper. What an outrage!
What is President Trump going to do about this?

Baby (butt wipes)! I bought a case of them when this thing first kicked off and no toilet paper was to be found. If I don’t use them all now, I’ll take them elk hunting for my occasional “bird” bath when hunting for a week. Having an actual shower is foreign to me during a hunting trip.

BRICKBURN · Mar 31, 2020

Three suggestions for anyone in Colorado's woods.

CoElkHunter · Mar 31, 2020

BRICKBURN said:
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mdwest said:
Im not seeing that at all...

I'm actually seeing the opposite..

The Kroger (grocery store) in my neighborhood has probably 90% recovered from the initial hording runs.. The meats have been fully stocked the last couple of times I have been in there.. canned good are back up to probably 80% or better now.. plenty of fresh produce.. etc.. about the only thing you still cant reliably get is toilet paper and hand sanitizer..

The Target (big box retailer that also has a large grocery section) appears to be 100% recovered with the exception of paper products and hand sanitizer.. they are getting TP and sanitizer daily.. they just continue to sell out every day by about 10AM.. )

The Walmart in my area is also back to pretty close to 100%.. like the others, they still cant get caught up on paper for your butt.. but other than that, you wouldnt have a clue there has been a problem.. theyve got bread on the shelves, milk and eggs in the cold food sections, lots of fresh produce out, etc..

All of this is in North Dallas.. Im not sure what the rest of the US looks like.. but, I'm not seeing any real problems here (at least not in the short term).. Im thinking if the 4th largest city in the US can continue to keep supplies coming in and feed its population fairly easily.. an average urban area shouldnt have any issues either..

A good buddy of mine that lives in rural western Virginia says he literally has seen zero impact at all in the grocery stores.. They didnt have a hoarding problem in his little community (only about 5000 people in his entire county).. and he has been able to buy anything he wants/needs (to include toilet paper) all along..

same for most of Alaska. Very few shortages. The exception being reloading supplies but they are still showing up as well.
We of course rely heavily on Barge traffic, so if you live here, stock up, don’t hoard.
Most importantly, stay well.

mdwest · Mar 31, 2020

CoElkHunter said:
Baby (butt wipes)! I bought a case of them when this thing first kicked off and no toilet paper was to be found. If I don’t use them all now, I’ll take them elk hunting for my occasional “bird” bath when hunting for a week. Having an actual shower is foreign to me during a hunting trip.

Yep

We, like many on AH, shop routinely at costco.. and fortunately had just bought a 48 roll pack of TP about a week prior to the whole butt paper panic buy thing kicking off.. Thats enough to last our household for months.. so.. we've really seen no impact at all on that side of things..

And.. I got lucky.. when the panic buying started, I managed to pick up 2x large packages of baby wipes (800 wipes each).. I typically pick up a package once every couple of years and keep a ziplock with a few dozen of them in my hunting pack for bird baths and or emergency trouser exercises.. I figure if I dont have to resort to baby wipes during the corona panic (isnt looking like I am going to have to for now lol).. I've got several years of hunt camp cleaning on hand..

CoElkHunter · Mar 31, 2020

mdwest said:
Yep

We, like many on AH, shop routinely at costco.. and fortunately had just bought a 48 roll pack of TP about a week prior to the whole butt paper panic buy thing kicking off.. Thats enough to last our household for months.. so.. we've really seen no impact at all on that side of things..

And.. I got lucky.. when the panic buying started, I managed to pick up 2x large packages of baby wipes (800 wipes each).. I typically pick up a package once every couple of years and keep a ziplock with a few dozen of them in my hunting pack for bird baths and or emergency trouser exercises.. I figure if I dont have to resort to baby wipes during the corona panic (isnt looking like I am going to have to for now lol).. I've got several years of hunt camp cleaning on hand..

Yessir,
I can camp out at home like I’m elk hunting without the elk. Ha! Ha!

markm · Mar 31, 2020

mdwest said:
Im not seeing that at all...

I'm actually seeing the opposite..

The Kroger (grocery store) in my neighborhood has probably 90% recovered from the initial hording runs.. The meats have been fully stocked the last couple of times I have been in there.. canned good are back up to probably 80% or better now.. plenty of fresh produce.. etc.. about the only thing you still cant reliably get is toilet paper and hand sanitizer..

The Target (big box retailer that also has a large grocery section) appears to be 100% recovered with the exception of paper products and hand sanitizer.. they are getting TP and sanitizer daily.. they just continue to sell out every day by about 10AM.. )

The Walmart in my area is also back to pretty close to 100%.. like the others, they still cant get caught up on paper for your butt.. but other than that, you wouldnt have a clue there has been a problem.. theyve got bread on the shelves, milk and eggs in the cold food sections, lots of fresh produce out, etc..

All of this is in North Dallas.. Im not sure what the rest of the US looks like.. but, I'm not seeing any real problems here (at least not in the short term).. Im thinking if the 4th largest city in the US can continue to keep supplies coming in and feed its population fairly easily.. an average urban area shouldnt have any issues either..

A good buddy of mine that lives in rural western Virginia says he literally has seen zero impact at all in the grocery stores.. They didnt have a hoarding problem in his little community (only about 5000 people in his entire county).. and he has been able to buy anything he wants/needs (to include toilet paper) all along..

Just more hype

meigsbucks · Mar 31, 2020

The hysteria seems to be slowing down in central Ohio, I was in a Kroger on 3/12. People weren’t hoarding but all carts were full. Major items: all paper products, cleaning products, bread, pasta, potatoes and bottled water were OOS.
On 3/27 I was in Giant Eagle. No TP but there were other paper products. Some bread. No cleaning products. Most food items in stock but selection was limited.
Extending the stay in rule may restart the hoarding.
So for now, my wife and I are burrowed in like ticks on a dog.

Wyatt Smith · Mar 31, 2020

Yesterday there wasn’t a package of hamburger meat or a can of green beans for sale in the whole town of Pittsfield.

Red Leg · Mar 31, 2020

Things are much better here. Limiting access put fewer people in the stores which took a lot of the energy out of the panic buying. Plus, I think most people filled up their freezers. Our local HEB's are almost back to normal. They are limiting toilette paper to one large bundle per purchase.

Rick Cox · Mar 31, 2020

mdwest said:
Im not seeing that at all...

I'm actually seeing the opposite..

The Kroger (grocery store) in my neighborhood has probably 90% recovered from the initial hording runs.. The meats have been fully stocked the last couple of times I have been in there.. canned good are back up to probably 80% or better now.. plenty of fresh produce.. etc.. about the only thing you still cant reliably get is toilet paper and hand sanitizer..

The Target (big box retailer that also has a large grocery section) appears to be 100% recovered with the exception of paper products and hand sanitizer.. they are getting TP and sanitizer daily.. they just continue to sell out every day by about 10AM.. )

The Walmart in my area is also back to pretty close to 100%.. like the others, they still cant get caught up on paper for your butt.. but other than that, you wouldnt have a clue there has been a problem.. theyve got bread on the shelves, milk and eggs in the cold food sections, lots of fresh produce out, etc..

All of this is in North Dallas.. Im not sure what the rest of the US looks like.. but, I'm not seeing any real problems here (at least not in the short term).. Im thinking if the 4th largest city in the US can continue to keep supplies coming in and feed its population fairly easily.. an average urban area shouldnt have any issues either..

A good buddy of mine that lives in rural western Virginia says he literally has seen zero impact at all in the grocery stores.. They didnt have a hoarding problem in his little community (only about 5000 people in his entire county).. and he has been able to buy anything he wants/needs (to include toilet paper) all along..

Pretty well the same up here in Western Canada. But heh! Here's a big SHOUT OUT! To all the brave men and women stocking those shelves, handling carts, cleaning the toilets, 'manning' the tills etc. I know they are scared, but without them we would starve. They are true modern heros.

CoElkHunter · Mar 31, 2020

Rick Cox said:
Pretty well the same up here in Western Canada. But heh! Here's a big SHOUT OUT! To all the brave men and women stocking those shelves, handling carts, cleaning the toilets, 'manning' the tills etc. I know they are scared, but without them we would starve. They are true modern heros.

+1 on the SHOUT OUT! A worker here in a King Soopers (Kroger) store was just diagnosed with the virus. Probably got it from a customer? Sad state of affairs!

Newboomer · Mar 31, 2020

Last week things were pretty tight but today I noticed the local Wally World here in northern NV is just about back to normal. Shelves and meat cases are full, ice cream and such are a little scarce, produce never did get hit very hard, paper goods go fast as soon as they are stocked. I did notice that tomatoes were just about gone, though. Most places here have instituted Senior Hours for us old relics. Gives us a chance to shop in the morning before the vultures swarm.

Brent in Az · Mar 31, 2020

Last week the grocery store was pretty well stocked, with the exception of the toilet paper aisle. The week before that, two thirds of the store was wiped out of product.

Hopefully it was just a panic spike . We could see it again, if stricter lockdowns are implemented.

Wouldn't be nearly as much panic, and doubt, if the media would just STFU with the fear mongering.

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