California mountain lion attacks child

Fred Gunner said:

I reported him...so maybe the moderators gave him/her the boot

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RS71 said:

Bullseye, Major.

In California, that cat almost has more rights than I do. I understand the arguments regarding mountain lion habitat. But at this point, there are so many people, and so many cats, in this state that crossing paths is almost impossible to avoid. I live in the central, San Joaquin Valley and a couple years ago we had two of them in my area. Flat land and well populated, a two hour drive, or more, away from mountains. I’m really surprised this hasn’t happened more often.

But if that isn’t enough for you, some in this state want to release brown bear along the coast as they did wolves in Yellowstone. I say, “Why not?” That’s where all the green, anti gunners live. Let them learn the hard way that these animals aren’t soft & cuddly like a Disney cartoon.

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RS71 said:

Bullseye, Major.

In California, that cat almost has more rights than I do. I understand the arguments regarding mountain lion habitat. But at this point, there are so many people, and so many cats, in this state that crossing paths is almost impossible to avoid. I live in the central, San Joaquin Valley and a couple years ago we had two of them in my area. Flat land and well populated, a two hour drive, or more, away from mountains. I’m really surprised this hasn’t happened more often.

But if that isn’t enough for you, some in this state want to release brown bear along the coast as they did wolves in Yellowstone. I say, “Why not?” That’s where all the green, anti gunners live. Let them learn the hard way that these animals aren’t soft & cuddly like a Disney cartoon.

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Pablolibre said:

All the large Western US states only have several thousand mountain lions left. And yes California outlawed hunting them several decades ago. However mountain lions aren't at all like tigers or the big cats of Africa. They're solitary hunters that are extremely risk adverse. Basically true scaredy cats. They are also extremely secretive. They hang out in thick forest and steep canyons. 99.9% of the time humans within 50 meters of one will not know it's there. The exception is a descent dog will alert you to their presence almost always. California restricting dogs in the area of this attack and so much of the State poses are far greater risk to people than the lack of hunting. I've ran into mountain lions that I know of around 80 times. It was always my dog that alerted me. While small dogs will only rarely scare off a mountain lions (and like large rodents may be seen as food), a descent dog not tied up can always put one on the run if necessary. My favorite remote canyon in Utah for fly fishing had a mountain lion in that range. We'd encounter it 10-12 times a year. It only came down the canyon once after my dogs and I shared a smoked salmon snack. The dogs are constantly in and out of the 10 C water for hours and need the energy. My 26 kg lab/dalmation/bull terrier mix smelt it coming down. She immediately charged it stomping her feet and barking at 100 plus decibels. As soon as she got into thick forest 10 meters up the canyon slope she stopped. She understood that the scaredy cat was long gone. After that she always gave a rather friendly growl when ever she smelt the mountain lion 200-300 meters up on the canyon rim. I named the cat after her- calling it Molly's Pet Kitty as she pretty much trained it not to bother with us. Yes we very frequently had that smoke salmon with the cat above because there was zero chance it was coming down again. My wife once happened to stop while mountain biking within 10 meters of a mountain lion. Again Molly had no trouble scaring that cat off per my wife's report. Molly remains an exceptional guard dog. Absolute fearless, pain insensitive and has an outsized bone crushing bite far beyond her pedigree. No dog less than twice her size would dare cross her. She is easily dominant over Rhodesian Ridgebacks, German Shepherds and Bull Terriers. However the reality is any real dog of descent size (20 kg is more than enough) and reasonable confidence is also quite capable of scaring off these extremely timid cats. Unlike dogs that can sense messing with Molly might result in a single fatal bite, mountain lions aren't outmatched with bite strength from any dog. Genetics have selected mountain lions to be extremely timid. As a solitary hunter any significant injury or infection from a bite is almost always going to result in starving to death.

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Fred Gunner said:

I reported him...so maybe the moderators gave him/her the boot

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crs said:

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Thanks Fred for reporting him.

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spike.t said:

Nope if you check his profile page it's still there... when Darth Vader terminates you it comes up with something like error page not available.....

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BRICKBURN said:

Been looking into the "report". Nothing has arrived in my inbox.
or with the Report function.



Check their status now.

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1dirthawker said:

should be monitoring the carcass of the lion underneath the tree!

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