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A few other current locations off the top of the head.

Hong Kong communist "owner", no wonder if the trouble

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France
social injustice for generations.
Drive from beautiful Paris to the airport. Countless people live in tent cities.Not to belive.
French protest much harder than Germans. Always have.

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Germany
stop with the up to the ears subsidized farmers. A farmer in America can only dream of it.
Look at the tractors, not one under 150.- 200'.- US Dollar


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Netherlands dto. and strikes are legitimate civil rights.Over 40% of the EU household is going to the agricultural sector.

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Chile
in South America unfortunately never works out anything so right. No matter who you choose, you can only decide between bad and even worse.

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Peru

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Response to Foxi post #1539


1. Yes it was a narrow margin. It was the will of the British citizens none the less.

2. Theresa May did not want to leave the EU. She did not have the best interest of her country in mind. She negotiated from the point of wanting to loose and make the decision so costly that the electorate would stay in the EU.

3. In no way am I deceiving myself. I am simply an observer watching from afar.


May/Corbun/Remainers acted like Britain was weak and it would destroy their economy to eave the EU. They tried to put this fear into the British people. If BREXIT happens with Trump as President, then Britain will have more negotiating power, since Trump wants fair deals with everyone. America is willing to make a quick and fair deal with Britain as soon as BREXIT happens.

Trump is about to hit the EU (probably Germany and France) with $7.5 billion of tariffs over the WTO Airbus decision. Trump is also about to hit France with $2.5 billion over taxes France has applied to American internet/software companies. When USMCA is completed, Trump will hit the EU with tariffs to force the EU into a fair trade agreement with America. (currently the EU's tariffs on American products is higher than America's tariffs on EU products) This will finally rid America from having unfair trade agreements with Europe going back to the Marshall Plan.

If America and Britain come to an agreement on trade. If the EU levies tariffs against Britain for leaving the EU, then expect America to levies even higher tariffs on the EU than the EU levies on Britain. The EU doesn't want to loose the ability to trade with Britain. The EU absolutely can't afford not to trade with America. In 2018 America imported $487 billion from the EU. The EU imported $318 billion from America. Much of this is due to the disparity in tariffs. Trump is negotiating from a position of power. Just as China has found out, there is no way America can loose a tariff war with the EU. It is not that Trump/America is being mean or being a bully. Trump just wants trade to be fair for the benefit of the American people.

The EU has some significant issues going forward.
 
"The EU has some significant issues going forward."
Eloquence in understatement :D
 
This nonsense about the UK suffering post Brexit is amusing to say the least. Where will the European financial and trading hub relocate to, Paris, Brussels, Berlin? Not bloody likely! It’s the EU who should be concerned. The next major bailout may be Spain or Italy. How will they handle that without the UK?
 
Response to Foxi post #1539


1. Yes it was a narrow margin. It was the will of the British citizens none the less.
The supporters of Brexit have prevailed with a four percent lead. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Greater London were the majority in favour.


2. Theresa May did not want to leave the EU. She did not have the best interest of her country in mind. She negotiated from the point of wanting to loose and make the decision so costly that the electorate would stay in the EU. Th.May had to negotiate the resignation agreement and, thanks to her cabinet, stepped on the spot for three years.Everything's been plucked to pieces again.

3. In no way am I deceiving myself. I am simply an observer watching from afar. (y)


May/Corbun/Remainers acted like Britain was weak and it would destroy their economy to eave the EU. They tried to put this fear into the British people. If BREXIT happens with Trump as President, then Britain will have more negotiating power, since Trump wants fair deals with everyone. America is willing to make a quick and fair deal with Britain as soon as BREXIT happens.
What other industry does England have?
The London Financial Centre is the UK's putty financed.
That will remain so even if it becomes less.
Money is a shy deer, and a retirement home for Putin's billionaire friends, you don't have to be proud of it.
In Europe no one believes that Trump is a fair partner. Sorry, but that is so.
An overpowering ego that makes England immediately clear, who is a cook and who is a waiter.Congrats!



Trump is about to hit the EU (probably Germany and France) with $7.5 billion of tariffs over the WTO Airbus decision. Trump is also about to hit France with $2.5 billion over taxes France has applied to American internet/software companies. When USMCA is completed, Trump will hit the EU with tariffs to force the EU into a fair trade agreement with America. (currently the EU's tariffs on American products is higher than America's tariffs on EU products) This will finally rid America from having unfair trade agreements with Europe going back to the Marshall Plan.
ja,times have changed.The average tariff in the EU is 5.2 percent, in the USA 3.5 percent.
There is something to it and the big dispute lies with Boeing and Airbus (without the EU (EC in that times) Airbus would never have arisen.....)


If America and Britain come to an agreement on trade. If the EU levies tariffs against Britain for leaving the EU, then expect America to levies even higher tariffs on the EU than the EU levies on Britain. The EU doesn't want to loose the ability to trade with Britain. The EU absolutely can't afford not to trade with America.
Nobody does that either, but neither can the EU,
who will renounce the power of 500 million !! EU citizens???


In 2018 America imported $487 billion from the EU. The EU imported $318 billion from America. Much of this is due to the disparity in tariffs. Trump is negotiating from a position of power. Just as China has found out, there is no way America can loose a tariff war with the EU. It is not that Trump/America is being mean or being a bully. Trump just wants trade to be fair
as fair as the criticism from Nordstream 2 that we should buy its expensive fracking gas?
Very charming, that he is so concerned about our security of supply, but even in the height of the Cold War, we got every cubimeter of gas without threat from Russia, the only one threatening is the USA, which makes life in Europe so hard for you here, because every child realizes that Trump, the USA ,is all about money.Let him say it like that. Nobody blames him.


Trump destroys links other Americans have built in 70 years. Wasn't that all failure? Certainly not.
I deeply regret that.

the EU has some significant issues going forward.

it will not be able to hold itself so, for it are too many states on board which fight only for their bare existence (already before the EU accession, with lied balance sheets)
She will disintegrate into North and South-strong and weak.

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"The EU has some significant issues going forward."
Eloquence in understatement :D

The current lot of EU politicians needs to wake up, sober up and either f... off or start doing actual work. Through my hard earned tax money I support them and am most discussed with what they do.

As with regards to Brexit, Boris Johnson’s “deal” is not any better for UK than what Ms May had negotiated. The largest issue between EU and UK with regards to Brexit is not having a dividing border between Irelands. Following Brexit, Ireland will be in EU and Northern Ireland will not. The peace there is still quite frail and it is not in anyones interest to have the very bloody conflict restarted. UK and continental Europe want to, need to and will continue to trade with one another, no one wants or expects anything else. We’re talking about large economies separated from each other by a strip of water so vast teenagers have swam across it.

EU is not threatening to place tariffs on UK in case of “hard Brexit”, the issue with it is that the hard Brexit means UK stops being part of EU but there are no laws governing what follows, so people will wake up the next day and there will be issues such as what to do at the border with imported/exported goods when there are no regulations governing it? It could be quite chaotic. This is not due to countries not wanting to do the trade but having legislative mess that could drastically affect it.

A number of financial services will shift out of UK following Brexit because not being part of EU UK will no longer be able to participate in certain transactions, this is a fact not a threat. US banking is done by US based banks (regardless of capital ties behind them), Australian banking is done by AU based banks and EU banking is done by EU banks. This is not a political issue.

One of the reasons why UK’s conservative party had such a major win is the extreme socialistic (border line communistic) ideology of what the labour party was proposing. It was not just about Brexit (labour was not openly anti-Brexit), they were proposing government taking 10% stake in private enterprises (by force of course), drastic increase in taxes and social spending - almost a reversal of Thatcher’s policies that repaired UK’s economy. It was the Liberal Democrats that were anti Brexit. Labour had their worst election result in decades as a result of trying to solve present day issues with the most failed policies of the XX century.
 
Opposite Pole,

I agree with some of what you have said, but respectfully not all. The EU was an interesting idea when it came in, and was intended to be truly an ‘economic union’. Through the years we have watched it morph into the distorted aberration it is now, with pumped up Brussels bureaucrats attempting to dictate domestic policies of member states.

I recently retired as an executive of one of the largest private companies in the world. Prior to that I was a divisional president of a Fortune 50 company. In both instances, the companies evaluated the impact of Brexit and determined that London would remain the financial and trading hub of Europe. Could they be wrong, certainly, but I firmly believe that the UK will be economically better off out of the EU. The USA and commonwealth countries stand ready to establish fair trade deals with the UK that will almost certainly be better these countries have in place with the EU.

In my mind, the big loser in all this is Germany. They will be put into the difficult position of bailing out member state economies destroyed by failed social policies.

Respectfully

WAB
 
Opposite Pole,

I agree with some of what you have said, but respectfully not all. The EU was an interesting idea when it came in, and was intended to be truly an ‘economic union’. Through the years we have watched it morph into the distorted aberration it is now, with pumped up Brussels bureaucrats attempting to dictate domestic policies of member states.

I recently retired as an executive of one of the largest private companies in the world. Prior to that I was a divisional president of a Fortune 50 company. In both instances, the companies evaluated the impact of Brexit and determined that London would remain the financial and trading hub of Europe. Could they be wrong, certainly, but I firmly believe that the UK will be economically better off out of the EU. The USA and commonwealth countries stand ready to establish fair trade deals with the UK that will almost certainly be better these countries have in place with the EU.

In my mind, the big loser in all this is Germany. They will be put into the difficult position of bailing out member state economies destroyed by failed social policies.

Respectfully

WAB

I am in no way disagreeing with you. Whether London will remain Europe’s financial hub remains to be seen, in all likelihood it will, with Frankfurt perhaps being #2. I’m merely saying that certain financial services will move as they must remain within EU. UK is a net payer not receiver of EU funds and from that perspective it will be better of. If there will be no tariffs on trade between UK and EU, and it is almost certain it’ll be the case I can’t see what the loss for the UK might be. The issues are of temporary and legislative nature, hard Brexit would be messy simply due to lack of legislature.

As regards the current Brussel administration. They are nothing but fat parasites, out of touch with reality and doing very little if any good and a fair bit of bad for EU’s economy and its people. These politicians are more concerned with nonsense like whether the word stewardess is correct or if they should be referred to as flight attendants instead. Yes they’ve actually written a law concerning this!
 
@Foxi,

What exactly is is that the US and Trump are doing to make you feel threatened?

If it's the US and Trump that are all about money, why are you complaining when by your own words, EU tariffs are higher than ours? Are you perhaps bothered also by Trump demanding you spend on your own defense the amount agreed to by NATO?

I was in Dresden about 20 years ago, so a few years after re-unification. Germany was doing what it could to encourage investment in what was East Germany. My company opened up an office there and I had the pleasure to go work with some people there for a week. Lovely city and I do hope if it hasn't already occurred that the recently stolen jewels will be returned. I had the opportunity to see them in the museum. But if the damn Russians are so much better and less threatening to you than the US, please explain to me why there were still bombed out buildings from WWII in Dresden some 60 years after the war ended? I'll bet without you didn't see such in Munich or Frankfurt.
 
The problem with the EU is there are only two countries with an economy that is worth anything - UK and Germany. UK leaves and Germany has the be the bank for everyone else, that's not sustainable for the German tax payer (although I doubt Merkel gives a rats ass about her tax payers). Germany would have their fair share of NATO, if they would stop spending it elsewhere. I can understand why everyone hate Trump. Who wants to pay their fair share, when you never have in the past, because prior US leaders never made you.
 
@Foxi ,

Try replying outside of the quoted message. The way you reply within makes it both hard to read and hard to reply to. If you'll highlight the section of a message you want and click reply it is so much easier.

Like this:
If it's the US and Trump that are all about money, why are you complaining when by your own words, EU tariffs are higher than ours? Are you perhaps bothered also by Trump demanding you spend on your own defense the amount agreed to by NATO?

I agree with Phil (see how much easier that is to read?)!

In Europe no one believes that Trump is a fair partner. Sorry, but that is so.

That's just utter bullcrap and makes you lose credibility. No one?? Really?? I'd love to hear how everyone believes he's unfair, not just you, but everyone.

Now if you'd said that many Europeans are annoyed that Trump expects them to fund their own countries and that they are mad the U.S. doesnt want to give them free money anymore, that I could believe.

the only one threatening is the USA, which makes life in Europe so hard for you here, because every child realizes that Trump, the USA ,is all about money.Let him say it like that. Nobody blames him.

Again, total bullcrap on the threats. I will leave it at that since you haven't bothered to call out what the threats are.

Trump has said, quite clearly, that it's all about the money . The economy drives everything and I think even you'd agree that Trump has used money quite effectively to further American interests, whether it be to get Germany to pay more into NATO (which Germany had ignored because they'd rather have us pay and get defense for free), keeping Turkey at bay with the Kurds, or simply bringing American money back home through tariff equalization.

Using economic power as a weapon is so much more effective, and less deadly, than using military might, dont you think?

Trump destroys links other Americans have built in 70 years. Wasn't that all failure? Certainly not.
I deeply regret that.

Agree, it certainly wasn't a failure 70 years ago, or even 50 years ago. But, to continue to allow Germany and others to suck off the American teat after 70 years? That, is the failure of American leadership. A failure that I'm very pleased Trump has begun to correct.

Trump is purposely giving the world time to adjust to the change in order. Take heed and prosper, or ignore to your peril.[/QUOTE]
 
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In my mind, the big loser in all this is Germany. They will be put into the difficult position of bailing out member state economies destroyed by failed social policies.

Agree totally.

And when Germany starts to complain that the rest of the EU is sucking it dry that will be the end of the EU.

Geez.... Smaller economies taking advantage of and leaching off of a larger economy. Now where have I heard that before??? :E Hmmm:
 
Agree totally.

And when Germany starts to complain that the rest of the EU is sucking it dry that will be the end of the EU.

Geez.... Smaller economies taking advantage of and leaching off of a larger economy. Now where have I heard that before??? :E Hmmm:

We already had a preview of this with Greece a few years back. One reason for BREXIT and perhaps also why the U.K. retained the Pound as its currency.

Switzerland could be a death blow if it ever decided to bail out. They who also did not adopt the Euro.
 
Switzerland could be a death blow if it ever decided to bail out. They who also did not adopt the Euro.

Switzerland is not and never was a member of EU.
 
If America and Britain come to an agreement on trade. If the EU levies tariffs against Britain for leaving the EU, then expect America to levies even higher tariffs on the EU than the EU levies on Britain. The EU doesn't want to loose the ability to trade with Britain. The EU absolutely can't afford not to trade with America. In 2018 America imported $487 billion from the EU. The EU imported $318 billion from America. Much of this is due to the disparity in tariffs. Trump is negotiating from a position of power. Just as China has found out, there is no way America can loose a tariff war with the EU. It is not that Trump/America is being mean or being a bully. Trump just wants trade to be fair for the benefit of the American people.


EU is not threatening to place tariffs on UK in case of “hard Brexit”, the issue with it is that the hard Brexit means UK stops being part of EU but there are no laws governing what follows, so people will wake up the next day and there will be issues such as what to do at the border with imported/exported goods when there are no regulations governing it? It could be quite chaotic. This is not due to countries not wanting to do the trade but having legislative mess that could drastically affect it.

In all likelihood, the UK and America work out a better and fairer trade deal than the EU has with America. This puts the EU countries in an untenable long term position with America. America can then export anything into the EU through the UK without triggering any tariffs. The only way the EU countries can trade without tariffs with America will be by moving manufacturing to the UK.(part of any trade deal with America will be that manufacturing has to take place in the country of origin. A Trump Presidency will never let a NAFTA type situation arise where a country turns into a broker.)

How does the EU respond against the UK. By tariffs.? This gets back to my initial post above. My initial paragraph was trying to show how this response by the EU will not work. The EU will be forced into a fair trade deal with the UK and America.

Long term, the UK is better off without the EU. Long term, the northern EU countries are better of without the southern countries. A common currency for states with different social and work ethics will not work. The freeloaders want the EU to continue. The enablers will get tired of subsidizing the freeloaders. This is why the EU was doomed prior to its founding. BREXIT is step one in the unwinding.
 
In all likelihood, the UK and America work out a better and fairer trade deal than the EU has with America. This puts the EU countries in an untenable long term position with America. America can then export anything into the EU through the UK without triggering any tariffs. The only way the EU countries can trade without tariffs with America will be by moving manufacturing to the UK.(part of any trade deal with America will be that manufacturing has to take place in the country of origin. A Trump Presidency will never let a NAFTA type situation arise where a country turns into a broker.)

How does the EU respond against the UK. By tariffs.? This gets back to my initial post above. My initial paragraph was trying to show how this response by the EU will not work. The EU will be forced into a fair trade deal with the UK and America.

Long term, the UK is better off without the EU. Long term, the northern EU countries are better of without the southern countries. A common currency for states with different social and work ethics will not work. The freeloaders want the EU to continue. The enablers will get tired of subsidizing the freeloaders. This is why the EU was doomed prior to its founding. BREXIT is step one in the unwinding.

It’s not quite that simple. Having a free trade agreement does not allow duty free imports and distribution of goods manufactured in countries not subject to the agreement through its signatories. EU has a deal with a number of non EU countries giving their goods a “preferential origin” duty free status. However that status is only granted to the goods or portion of the goods actually manufactured in those countries and not imported from say China.

EU and USA will enter into a free trade agreement because it will simplify trade and benefit both sides. EU and UK will continue trading too because it is to everyones advantage. The eggheads who call themselves “political elites” can throw frowned looks around but businesses have more sense and seek opportunities. Likewise the people, who need jobs. No one is dumb enough to not trade with their neighbour if at all possible, even the Koreas have some trade exchange. People in Europe are not locking horns with people in the UK. The politicians do but this in large part is a show that has a goal of justifying their payouts and ensuring re-election.

As for EU production moving to the UK, that’s highly unlikely. The cost is prohibitive.

It seems to me you don’t understand the structure of EU very well. Not all EU members use Euro currency, 19 of the 28 countries do and there is no common EU debt. A Greek debt is a Greek debt, not German or British. EU did provide bail out funds to a near bankrupt Greece, but it was not because it had an obligation to do so. Instead it was done to avoid a country failing as a state (humanitarian disaster and major PITA for everyone around) as well as stabilising the banking system as major European banks had a giant and dangerous exposure to Greek bad debt. If it wasn’t for the stability of the banking system it perhaps would have been better to allow Greece to go bust. The organisations that lent money to Greece had full knowledge of the state of its economy and used a number of tricks to hide this in their books - such as formally not lending money but instead securing rights to future profits from air traffic control fees. A head of one of these banks later became the current head of ECB and worked rather hard for the country not to fail, a somewhat hypocritical turn of events.

EU started as a free trade agreement (European Coal and Steel Community) and evolved into something much more (perhaps too much). There are a number of benefits to this integration such as unified industrial norms, certain trade laws, parts of banking system, anti crime laws etc. EU is however a union of 28 different countries and not one united country. Is a common currency a good thing? There are a number of obvious issues with it, controlling a common fiscal policy across countries with such different economies is bound to be inefficient. However any large country will be facing similar problems within its own borders. USA, China, Russia - all have areas with vastly different economic needs yet using the same currency with the same interest rates. However imagine how much more complex it would be to trade and do business in the USA if different US states had different, independent currencies. Common currency does simplify trade exchange greatly.

Take into consideration that by size EU, comprised of 28 different countries is presently the biggest economy in the world. Having a unified set of laws makes it possible. This is why EU in one form or another will be around for a while. It is far from efficient, terribly bureaucratic and preoccupied with nonsense, but a tight cooperation between neighbouring countries is the only logical way of doing things.

Personally I only have one issue with Brexit, the referendum for it and the arguments used were of strictly emotional type, no different in their nature from the argument less, fact ignoring cries of the anti hunting crowd fighting for trophy import bans while supporting policies that result in increased pouching and wildlife habitat losses. It was emotions over facts. The man who was the biggest driver of the Brexit “movement” is a typical EU funded parasite politician who collected his EU representation check for a long time (and continues to do so now) while carrying on about how evil it is.

In all likelihood USA, Europe and UK will still be around and still trade with each other long after Trump, Johnson, Merkel, Macron etc have become dusty paragraphs in history books. Remember, modern day politicians are but celebrities of the Kardashian sort except dressed more conservatively. They do what they do for their own benefit. Yours or mine well being is not their primary, secondary or tertiary focus.
 
I agree with most of what you have said.

BREXIT/EU, and the new trade deal between those two entities and also America will be fairly complex. Not knowing all the specifics, we talk in generalities and probabilities.


As for EU production moving to the UK, that’s highly unlikely. The cost is prohibitive.

I agree with you that this is unlikely to happen. This was an illustration as to why the EU and America would end up with a fair trade deal, unlike the current one.

It seems to me you don’t understand the structure of EU very well. Not all EU members use Euro currency, 19 of the 28 countries do and there is no common EU debt. A Greek debt is a Greek debt, not German or British. EU did provide bail out funds to a near bankrupt Greece, but it was not because it had an obligation to do so. Instead it was done to avoid a country failing as a state (humanitarian disaster and major PITA for everyone around) as well as stabilising the banking system as major European banks had a giant and dangerous exposure to Greek bad debt. If it wasn’t for the stability of the banking system it perhaps would have been better to allow Greece to go bust. The organisations that lent money to Greece had full knowledge of the state of its economy and used a number of tricks to hide this in their books - such as formally not lending money but instead securing rights to future profits from air traffic control fees. A head of one of these banks later became the current head of ECB and worked rather hard for the country not to fail, a somewhat hypocritical turn of events.

EU started as a free trade agreement (European Coal and Steel Community) and evolved into something much more (perhaps too much). There are a number of benefits to this integration such as unified industrial norms, certain trade laws, parts of banking system, anti crime laws etc. EU is however a union of 28 different countries and not one united country. Is a common currency a good thing? There are a number of obvious issues with it, controlling a common fiscal policy across countries with such different economies is bound to be inefficient. However any large country will be facing similar problems within its own borders. USA, China, Russia - all have areas with vastly different economic needs yet using the same currency with the same interest rates. However imagine how much more complex it would be to trade and do business in the USA if different US states had different, independent currencies. Common currency does simplify trade exchange greatly.

Take into consideration that by size EU, comprised of 28 different countries is presently the biggest economy in the world. Having a unified set of laws makes it possible. This is why EU in one form or another will be around for a while. It is far from efficient, terribly bureaucratic and preoccupied with nonsense, but a tight cooperation between neighbouring countries is the only logical way of doing things.

The original European Common Market was a good thing. Especially as established by the founding members, prior to adding countries and peoples with completely disparate ideas, social contracts, work ethics, etc.

I do understand that newer members to the EU have maintained their own currency. The UK, even though it is not new, is especially glad they maintained the pound through their excursion into the EU.

There are multiple problems that the EU faces. A common currency for a diverse group of people without common values will not work over an extended period of time.

Schengen is a wonderful idea and policy of the EU. At least until you drag in two million plus people that won't work, won't integrate into a common society and are leaches to the social programs of the countries they inhabit.

Bureaucrats in Belgium that make rules as to the proper bend in a banana or the straightness of a cucumber or the limits to power in a vacuum cleaner only work to hack the ordinary citizen off.

Negative birthrate by itself will destroy the EU in time.

Resentment and animosity by junior members in the Union toward the two countries that dominate the union will continue to grow.

I will agree with you that some parts of the EU are good and will survive. IMHO, the euro is not one of those things. Neither is the bureaucracy that justifies itself by growing and making more rules and regulations to the determent of individual freedoms. A EU with a form more like the original Common Market and with a reduced number of countries will survive but it won't be the EU that we know today.
 
The beaurocracy that run the EU are as corrupt as the worst African governments..... I believe the accountants have never been able to sign off on the accounts since the beginning due to the amount of money missing...... Could be wrong...... But it's a bottomless black hole..... Run out of money.... No problem .....the countries have to stump up the extra in proportion to their allocated percentage..... Money given away for studies into all sorts of bullshit.... One example that stuck in my mind was... (I can't remember how many millions but was a lot) for an island group in the Pacific I think for fish farming.... The lunacy was that the fish type that the study was for is not found there....and that is just one tiny example...... I also remember reading an editorial by a top economist in one of the major UK newspapers when the shit hit the fan with Greece...Italy...Spain...Portugal.. Etc....and the euro and EU was teetering.... He said I always thought the EU and the euro were a great experiment..... As in the long term he never expected it to work.... His view was similar to what some have stated....that you cannot have such disparate countries /economies... some of which were not far off third world status running to the same fiscal rules as the top economies such as Germany... France etc......more countries keep getting added ....but these countries are how shall we not exactly flourishing economic powerhouses.... So they love all the money doled out for new roads etc etc etc.......I remember going shooting in Ireland at a friends and driving on beautiful new tarred roads in the middle of nowhere, and I asked him how come these roads which I never saw another vehicle on were so new and nice... he said EU grants.....So let's see .......too many mill stones around the necks of the bigger EU economies and the people will keep getting more and more Pissed off at subsidizing these countries
 

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