Great Cats & Shotguns (Personal Experiences)

Kawshik Rahman

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I see on these forums that groups are largely divided amongst each other on a passionately debated topic : Do shot-guns work for killing leopards and tigers ? . While l am by no means, an expert or a very well read man , l have killed 36 great cats in my career as a professional Shikari . This is 32 leopards and four Royal Bengal tigers . Therefore , however rudimentary , l believe that l can be allowed to say that l have some experience on the matter.
The issue here is whether large shot ( which my fellow respected American sportsmen refer to as buck -shot) will kill a leopard. The purpose of this article is not to impose my views upon anybody , but rather to share my own views on the matter in greater detail than can be done by simply responding to a thread. I am very grateful to fellow forum members Hoss Delgado , IvW and Mark Hunter for providing me with certain details and photographs which l will use in this article alongside my own . Let us begin.
I have killed 26 leopards and two Royal Bengal tigers with SG cartridge which is the equivalent of the American 0 buck-shot . It normally contains nine pellets each being a round lead ball of .32 in calibre . To put matters into perspective , my niece owns a Cheetah model pistol fromBeretta in .32 bore . Leopard number 32 was a man eater , killed in 1995 , long after after l had stopped being a professional Shikari in 1970 ( before the Bangladesh Liberation war in 1971 ).
From 1962 to 1970 , for my personal hunting and for assisting clients , l used an Ishapore Arms Factory 12 bore side by side shot-gun which had chambers made to take the classic 70 millimeter cartridge. Initially this gun came with 32 inch fully choked muzzles , but in order to use larger sizes of shot than number 1 , l cut the length of the muzzle down to 28 inches and thus removed the chokes.

For the first eight leopards and two Royal Bengal tigers which l had killed , l had used a stock of old ICI Kynoch 12 bore cartridges , loaded with what the firm called “ Lethal ball “. My young and extremely well read friend , Hoss Delgado actually took the time to find a picture of such a cartridge on the internet for me to use on the internet.
However , l only had twenty cartridges for this type of ammunition and soon it was expended. Fortunately , one of my clients , a Spanish American gentleman by the name of Don Fernando Delgado ( who was a repeat client and is Hoss Delgado’s grandfather ) used to bring 250 cartridges of 12 bore SG during every one of his trips to India for me . On occasion , he would sent the over into India through customs , but never in quantities larger than 250 cartridges for legal reasons. I would use these extensively for hunting four legged animals . In fact , in my entire life the only five shot sizes l have ever used are : SG for four legged animals , AAA for cranes and geese , number 1 for ducks , number 6 for general birds and hares and number 8 for doves and the snipe.
When supplies of cartridges were low ( which was frequent , because Shikar season lasted seven months ) , l would reload cartridges with SG pellets made by using moulding them from lead with a shot ladle . The SG pellets would then have hot molten wax from bees poured over theming order to reduce their spreading and increase range a little bit. It must be said here that l was killing leopards in two contexts : The first was when l was pursuing leopards injured by clients and incorrect aiming. The second was when my former Shikar partner , the late Karim Chowdhury and l were killing leopards for their skins. A leopard skin back in those days fetched us Rupees 8,000. To put matters into perspective , this was double of what l would be paid for guiding a single client back in those days.
Let us discuss how Karim and l killed leopards . During the time of which l speak ( 1962 to 1970) , the words " ethical killing " were practically unheard of by local hunters in India. We had money to make . A very popular ( yet unethical method ) of killing the great cats for their skin was by using Folidol to poison them . A little known fact is that the Indian leopard is an opportunistic scavenger.
One typically does not think of these great hunters as opportunistic scavengers , but it is true. Karim and l exploited this to great effect. If you treated the flesh of a dead goat or a bullock with folidol and a leopard ate it , the effects of folidol would work quickly , either killing it , or leaving it severely weakened and close to death.
On the occasions when it was weakened , killing these leopards with a 12 bore shot-gun loaded with SG cartridge was quite uneventful. You could get quite close to them , point the shot-gun at the region where the neck meets the shoulder at point blank distance and finish them off with one SG cartridge , usually by pressing the muzzles on to their neck . My learned forum member , Red Leg uses an excellent word to describe the affair : a " compliant leopard " . For reasons that need not even be elaborated , this can hardly classify as hunting a leopard.
There was another method of killing leopards with shot-guns loaded with SG . This is by using baits. The correct English term , l am told is " leopard over bait ". In fact , the very last leopard l had killed in my life in 1995 was killed by using this method . I was using a 12 bore Beretta over-under model s686 special with a fully choked barrel (over) and a modified choke barrel ( under ) and 70 millimeter chamber. I used an SG cartridge in the lower modified choke barrel to kill it.


However , this animal was killed by using bait . It was not attempting to charge and there was no adrenaline running in it's veins . This is not hunting. This is execution in it's plainest form.

Let us now go to hunting . Karim and l had to pursue a large quantity of injured leopards into dense vegetation after they had been injured by clients with incorrect aim. Suddenly , situations change. Any professional hunter or person experienced with killing problem causing leopards will tell you that there is a massive difference between killing a leopard over bait and killing a charging leopard which has been wounded by a client and is full of adrenaline. Let me give you a small sample of what an Indian leopard is like. An Indian leopard will weigh around the ambit of 200 pounds and has muscles as hard as rocks. These are devilish creatures with extremely strong jaws. They will usually attack from behind ( but not always ) and try to get the unfortunate victim's neck and throat between it's strong jaws. A leopard is extremely cunning and vengeful. Unlike a charging Gaur which may switch targets spontaneously , the leopard will hide in the foliage and pre determine which single person to torment first. It is extremely Swift and knows how to ambush it's opponents . Once it has finished it's " work " on one victim , it will focus on the next. My respected forum member and professional hunter , IvW describes their characteristics with grotesque accuracy . Make no mistake . A leopard is very resilient .
No sensible person will use a shot-gun to hunt leopards and during my time , no one certainly did . Shot-guns , however were used by us Shikaris to pursue wounded leopards in thick vegetation. These were always leopards which had been wounded by clients and foul aiming . A shot-gun was used here in this situation . We Shikaris used to pursue those wounded leopards into extremely dense vegetation ( as can be seen in the very first picture ) . We also did use SG shot exclusively in such acts , but it will be a lie to imply that we were even remotely happy with it's performance . We were using it , because it was all we had , with us.
At 25 feet , a charge of SG shot fired at a charging leopard is pitiful. The nine pellets will penetrate the skin , but will completely flatten on the muscles of the leopard which are as hard as a rock. If you clip this distance to more than half , at say , less than ten feet , your chances of success improve fairly , but not enough to be a guarantee.

This cat was not hunted with a client but it was deemed a pest , because it had killed a child. Even though it weighed a mere 133 pounds , it was quite resilient. It took four SG cartridges to lay it low ( two from my own gun and two from my late partner , Karim Chowdhury) . The first shot was taken at seven yards and the last shot was taken at four yards. Upon cutting it open , it was discovered that an uncomfortably large amount of the SG pellets had failed to penetrate into it’s muscle. Many had connected with it’s skull , but had not penetrated into it’s brain . The pellets which did kill it , were the ones which connected with the region where the neck met the shoulder .



What about a distance of five feet ? Five feet equal sixty inches. If a person is willing to let a swift , charging dangerous leopard get within five feet of them , then they have a suicidal amount of bravery. Let us , however, for the sake of argument , assume that the shooter is holding a shot-gun loaded with SG cartridges and the leopard in in the act of springing at him. If the shooter indeed lets off a barrel’s worth of SG at a distance of five feet at the leopard’s face , his chances of killing the leopard , are significantly high . Say seven times out of ten. But there is still no guarantee. You are guaranteed to do a good deal of damage to it’s face , including probably knocking out an eye or even both eyes. But you may need to finish it off with a second cartridge quickly , preferably by placing the muzzles on it's neck.

Leopard which had attempted to spring up an elephant macchan to reach a client. It actually got pretty close before my former partner , Karim fired a barrel's worth of SG shot into his face and stopped the charge. The distance was either five feet or even slightly lesser than that. The leopard was knocked down and it's face was very bloody , having lost an eye. However , it started getting back up , before the client shot it in the head with a magnum .375 bore double barrel rifle . A subsequent cutting open revealed that all nine pellets had connected with the skull and mouth and jaw , but had failed to penetrate into the leopard's brain.

Why is it than SG shot has such unpredictable performance ? The reason is this : People think that SG cartridges are very powerful at close distances because at close distances , the pellets are concentrated and therefore work like a large mass. This is not accurate. The penetration capacity of each individual pellet into the brain of a leopard must be assessed . These are round pellets of .32 calibre. Their shape makes them unreliable performers in the field of dangerous animals .The way the head of the leopard is designed by Divine Providence , makes it the most unsuitable shape for a shooter to use SG shot on. We have killed many charging leopards by shooting them with SG cartridges repeatedly , however it certainly does not make for clean killing. Why is it that a leopard weakened with folidol or a leopard over bait , will reliably get killed by SG cartridge , but a charging leopard will not get killed by a single SG cartridge , 100 % of the time ? The answer is because of this :
When a leopard is over bait , it is unsuspecting and has no adrenaline rushing through it's veins. It is slowly moving and allows the shooter to time his shot for perfection. In such a case , the ideal region to shoot the leopard is in the area where the neck meets the shoulder.
By contrast , a charging leopard has adrenaline in it's veins and is coming towards you , at excessively high speed. It is not humanly possible for 9 SG pellets of .32 calibre to reliably penetrate into the brain of a leopard when the shooter is trying to stop a charging leopard which is coming at you head on , all the time . It may stop the charge ( still not guaranteed ) which was what my friend and Shikar partner , Karim did in 1965 to a leopard attempting to spring up on an elephant macchan. But it is not reliably going to kill it ten times out of ten. I have seen this in the field numerous times. Seven times out of ten are good odds in most circumstances . However , if these circumstances include something such as a large , imposing leopard charging at out of the bushes at you , then seven times out of ten are certainly not good enough for anybody who values self preservation .
Now that we have discussed why SG cartridges are unreliable for killing charging leopards , let us assess one very important other problem using SG cartridges for leopard. What if your tracker or your coolie is attacked by the leopard and you need to shoot the leopard ? This is not just a worst case situation . This happens a lot more frequently than people think it does . Due to the inherent nature of shot of any form , you have a risk of shooting your coolie or tracker or fellow hunter . This is completely unacceptable .

Of course , large shot has been used to kill big animals , but then again people have also become millionaires by winning lotteries. That does not mean that participating in lotteries are a reliable method of making a living.
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My final Royal Bengal tiger killed in 1969 . It was done by firing both barrels of SG into the unsuspecting creature's neck region from above ( l was waiting in a tree ) . From the tree branch to the Royal Bengal tiger , the distance was less than nine feet. It's spinal column was hit. However , imagine trying to stop a charging Royal Bengal tiger which is attacking you from the front with SG cartridges . You can see where the difference is.


Sometimes , people make do with all they have . Under ideal situations ( as discussed above ) they will work. However , when hunting something as dangerous as leopard , ideal conditions are a rare luxury. Personally speaking , my favorite cartridge to use for leopards and Royal Bengal tigers was the Kynoch 12 bore Lethal Ball cartridge. These were devastatingly effective on leopards and Royal Bengal tigers at close range. Unfortunately , their manufacture had already ceased long before l began my career as a professional Shikari and l was lucky to acquire those twenty cartridges which were in an arms shop . Had l more of this type of Cartridge , l would never have used SG shot but beggars cannot be choosers. Some day , l hope that some firm restarts the manufacture of these beautiful cartridges again. I think that many hunters would enjoy them quite well.
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Images of Kynoch lethal ball , kindly provided by Hoss Delgado .



Today , a good German slug projectile in a shot-gun can stop any leopard with a guarantee and it increases the chances of the Shikari returning to his loved ones to regale the tale to them.
I hope that l have not offended anyone with my article or acted authoritarian in my views. This is just how l feel on this matter.
 
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Brilliant article. So thorough. Your quality as a gentleman once again shines through. Thank you for taking the time to expound on this subject.
 
Brilliant article. So thorough. Your quality as a gentleman once again shines through. Thank you for taking the time to expound on this subject.
Mort Hill
Thank you so much for your kind words . I am glad that you are enjoying them.
 
Superb dissertation my friend. Clear, interesting, and leading to inescapable, invaluable conclusions. Thank you for taking the time and effort to write it.
 
Superb dissertation my friend. Clear, interesting, and leading to inescapable, invaluable conclusions. Thank you for taking the time and effort to write it.
Red Leg
Thank you for always being so supportive of me . I am very grateful to you an everyone else here.
 
Kawshik, this is another well written article. Please keep them coming.

Red Leg's comments +1
 
Again, I commend you. Your writing reveals a man of culture and a true professional.
 
I love the clarity with which you write and describe your experiences. They are invaluable to us hunters.
Bruce
 
Well written sir, thank you!
 
Kwashik......great article. I have tested over 2000 rounds of buckshot during the past 50 years. Testing for pattern and penetration, both factory and developed loads. I have learned a lot............but there is no substitute for first hand field experience.....and you have that. Very well written and insightful article.........let's have another!.......FW Bill
 
Another great article.
Thank you for you time and effort!

Reading previous posts on similar subject, I can only say:
That we, as clients, will never reach experience of a professional hunter, or guide.
For this reason I am grateful, to have opportunity to learn on this forum from proffesionals. Same thanks to other forum member: @IvW.
 
Very interesting article…..I have a copy of the ICI catalouge that Hoss copied from and always wondered how/if the Lethal Ball and Destructor ammo was used on game and to what effect..

Could you please enlighten us as to what damage the Lethal Ball did compared with say buck shot..?

Again...very interesting to read these stories from a Professional in India.. (y)
 
Very interesting and well written..... Never seen those different kynoch shotgun rounds before.... So thanks for the info on them......and appreciate you putting your past experiences on here for us to read and enjoy :D Beers:
 
Thanks Mr. Rahman. That was very informative. I wish you had access to slugs or ball projectiles back then.
Wyatt Smith
I could not agree more. If l had one thousand more Kynoch lethal ball cartridges , then l would perhaps be very lucky and one of my trackers would not have lost an ear during a leopard attack
( Perhaps the topic of a future story ? )
 
F
Kwashik......great article. I have tested over 2000 rounds of buckshot during the past 50 years. Testing for pattern and penetration, both factory and developed loads. I have learned a lot............but there is no substitute for first hand field experience.....and you have that. Very well written and insightful article.........let's have another!.......FW Bill
Flat Water Bill
I am touched by your admiration. On a related subject , l may need to correspond with you in the future about certain firms of American shot-gun cartridge makers. I hope l will not be too much trouble .
 

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