Birthday Gift From Mrs. Delgado

Happy birthday! Very nice looking shotgun! But why are you using #1 shot for Roe deer? Or any shot on deer for that matter? Aren’t they kind of a larger deer? Can’t you use slugs? I used 1 ounce slugs on whitetail in Ohio a few years ago, before they have recently allowed straight walled handgun cartridges in rifles. Just curious?
 
Happy birthday! Very nice looking shotgun! But why are you using #1 shot for Roe deer? Or any shot on deer for that matter? Aren’t they kind of a larger deer? Can’t you use slugs? I used 1 ounce slugs on whitetail in Ohio a few years ago, before they have recently allowed straight walled handgun cartridges in rifles. Just curious?
I hope Illinois does this soon! For now I use Brenecke heavy field short mags or the black magic slugs with good results.
 
I hope Illinois does this soon! For now I use Brenecke heavy field short mags or the black magic slugs with good results.
Yeah, more crazy laws! When my buddy and I hunted in Ohio ten years ago, you had to use a shotgun with slugs, OR a handgun with a six inch barrel .357 magnum or larger! Now, you can use a rifle shooting straight walled handgun cartridges .357 or larger. Seems redundant with same or larger handgun vs. rifle? I mean the longest shot is maybe 100 yards? Not really thought out as far as the original shotgun/ handgun law was.
 
Wait , till you see the other gift l got . I'll give you a hint. It's bigger than a .375 HH Magnum ;)
Let me guess. Hmmm. Pheroze found your wife a .465 h and h magnum rifle to give to you for your birthday? Good luck finding (a single) cartridges for it! Ha! Ha! Ha!
 
coelkhunter,
or an original colt single action in 45 long colt.
or even a walker dragoon.
or a Thompson contender in 458 win mag.
bruce.
His gift could be any one of those! Anything over .375! Ha! Ha! Ha! When will we know?
 
in the fullness of time.
everything comes to he who waits.
patience is a virtue.
and other such wise sayings.
bruce.
So true Bruce, so true! But the anticipation is making me sweat? I think Hoss is playing us! His GIFT better be something UNIQUE! Ha! Ha! Ha!
 
Happy birthday! Very nice looking shotgun! But why are you using #1 shot for Roe deer? Or any shot on deer for that matter? Aren’t they kind of a larger deer? Can’t you use slugs? I used 1 ounce slugs on whitetail in Ohio a few years ago, before they have recently allowed straight walled handgun cartridges in rifles. Just curious?
Ah , Co - Elk Hunter . Thank you for wishing me :) To start with , let me begin by saying that you just asked the same question l found myself asking all those years ago , when l first got introduced to this practice. In Sweden , hunting roe deer with shotgun over dogs is EXTREMELY popular. I do this every October / November . :) The season for doing this is ( I believe ) from September to January ( l may have to check up on that , since l never went earlier than October and later than November). Now, Sweden has a VERY stupid law which prohibits hunters from Firing slugs from double barrel shotguns ( beats me why anyone would make such a law :( ) . Something about accuracy being too inconsistent to be safe ( yeah , yeah . I know. Stupid logic ) . Buck shot also is not allowed . Hunters who hunt Roe Deer with dogs , therefore use Double barrel shotguns ( virtually always over unders or over under combination guns ) loaded with #1 shot. If l didn't do it so many times , being an American , l myself would assume that using #1 birdshot on roe deer is the stupidest thing to ever do. But l know for a fact that a load of #1 birdshot at point blank (ish ) range , fired from a moderately choked shotgun ( to keep the shot charge concentrated ) WILL completely pole axe a roe deer. I have done it before with Beretta 12 gauge over under shotguns which l borrowed and my older BRNO over under full choke 12 gauge :) . The very first time , l ever saw someone do this was , by using a Valmett Over Under combination gun ( One barrel was a full choke 12 gauge shotgun barrel with a 2 3/4 inch chamber . One barrel was a 5.2 × 56R rifle barrel , which we Americans know as .22 Savage Hi Power ) . He was using #3 shot from Game Bore at the time, and he took Lots of roe deer !
I must stress however that you should ONLY ever attempt to use a Shotgun loaded with #1 birdshot IF and ONLY IF , you are hunting them over hounds .
Finally , roe deer are pretty small :) Think of them as equal in size to an African Duiker :)
PS : Funnily enough , when l first mentioned this practice , a month ago , fellow forum Member , Red Leg actually asked if this was even legal to do :p . You guys basically ask the same question l did when l first became aware of this practice.
 
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Let me guess. Hmmm. Pheroze found your wife a .465 h and h magnum rifle to give to you for your birthday? Good luck finding (a single) cartridges for it! Ha! Ha! Ha!
My wife didn't get me the other gun. My Granddad did :) And they both know l prefer bolt guns to doubles ( no disrespect to doubles. I just feel more comfortable with a bolt action :) ).
Also , l do believe Kynoch makes .465 H & H ammo , right ?
 
Ah , Co - Elk Hunter . Thank you for wishing me :) To start with , let me begin by saying that you just asked the same question l found myself asking all those years ago , when l first got introduced to this practice. In Sweden , hunting roe deer with shotgun over dogs is EXTREMELY popular. I do this every October / November . :) The season for doing this is ( I believe ) from September to January ( l may have to check up on that , since l never went earlier than October and later than November). Now, Sweden has a VERY stupid law which prohibits hunters from Firing slugs from double barrel shotguns ( beats me why anyone would make such a law :( ) . Something about accuracy being too inconsistent to be safe ( yeah , yeah . I know. Stupid logic ) . Buck shot also is not allowed . Hunters who hunt Roe Deer with dogs , therefore use Double barrel shotguns ( virtually always over unders or over under combination guns ) loaded with #1 shot. If l didn't do it so many times , being an American , l myself would assume that using #1 birdshot on roe deer is the stupidest thing to ever do. But l know for a fact that a load of #1 birdshot at point blank (ish ) range , fired from a moderately choked shotgun ( to keep the shot charge concentrated ) WILL completely pole axe a roe deer. I have done it before with Beretta 12 gauge over under shotguns which l borrowed and my older BRNO over under full choke 12 gauge :) . The very first time , l ever saw someone do this was , by using a Valmett Over Under combination gun ( One barrel was a full choke 12 gauge shotgun barrel with a 2 3/4 inch chamber . One barrel was a 5.2 × 56R rifle barrel , which we Americans know as .22 Savage Hi Power ) . He was using #3 shot from Game Bore at the time, and he took Lots of roe deer !
I must stress however that you should ONLY ever attempt to use a Shotgun loaded with #1 birdshot IF and ONLY IF , you are hunting them over hounds .
Finally , roe deer are pretty small :) Think of them as equal vin size to an African Duiker :)
PS : Funnily enough , when l first mentioned this practice , a month ago , fellow forum Member , Red Leg actually asked if this was even legal to do :p . You guys basically ask the same question l did when l first became aware of this practice.
Hoss, thanks for clarifying the Roe deer and how they’re hunted. I guess I mistook that deer species for another. Still, I can’t fathom shooting any animal larger than a rabbit with shotgun pellets? But, to each country’s hunting rules to their own! Good luck and have fun!
 
Hoss, thanks for clarifying the Roe deer and how they’re hunted. I guess I mistook that deer species for another. Still, I can’t fathom shooting any animal larger than a rabbit with shotgun pellets? But, to each country’s hunting rules to their own! Good luck and have fun!
There you go , Co Elk Hunter :) Check this out
 
My wife didn't get me the other gun. My Granddad did :) And they both know l prefer bolt guns to doubles ( no disrespect to doubles. I just feel more comfortable with a bolt action :) ).
Also , l do believe Kynoch makes .465 H & H ammo , right ?
Nobody knows! Nobody here on AH (after my numerous pleadings), including Pheroze, can produce a SINGLE belted .465 h and h cartridge! I’ve seen a couple of photos of one, but I’ve also seen photos of the African unicorn? Do either of them really exist? Maybe Bruce knows? Ha! Ha! Ha!
 
There you go , Co Elk Hunter :) Check this out
Was that a coyote? I stand to be corrected. Here in the U.S. some hunters do hunt coyotes with a shotgun at close range.
 
it all pales into insignificance compared to the mystery present.
nothing else matters any more.
smoke is starting to pour out of my ears and my eyeballs are starting to bleed in anticipation
bruce.
 

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