Giraffe just listed CITES Appendix II

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CITES COP 18

Giraffe has been listed on CITES Appendix II.

More details as they become available.
 
Brickburn, was the total number of giraffes for "wild" animals only or does that include "privately" owned animals as well?
 
I have no idea what information this decision was based on. Scientific research? Who knows. I have my doubts.
 
I have no idea what information this decision was based on. Scientific research? Who knows. I have my doubts.

You are surely correct. As the other thread suggests it is the money trail.
 
Giraffe data from my sons science fair project. All IUCN data.
Philip
 
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Could someone please tell me what this means for importing?

Depends if they exclude particular populations. If you assume every population is included, it will mean one more permit to acquire to export/import. Oh, and the accompanying fees.
 
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I have got a shipment of giraffe bone stuck at the Christchurch airport with customs and cites having gotten involved through MPI (Ministry of primary industries) putting a hold on the shipment that was to become knife handles. 6 giraffe leg bones and 4 impala horns may be destroyed if my customs broker can not get it sorted out
 
I have got a shipment of giraffe bone stuck at the Christchurch airport with customs and cites having gotten involved through MPI (Ministry of primary industries) putting a hold on the shipment that was to become knife handles. 6 giraffe leg bones and 4 impala horns may be destroyed if my customs broker can not get it sorted out

That's brutal. I hope they get it sorted out. A bureaucratic nightmare.
 
So is there reason to believe now that can’t import giraffe mount or parts etc into the UNited States?

Wondering as
Trying to decipher all this is confusing.
 
Any advice would be much appreciated. I have an old bull giraffe being dipped and packed in Namibia as I write this. WELL in Houston will be importing the crates and they have been very effective at importing several CITES trophies over past several years. I’ve never had an issue. Are there any proactive steps I should take at this point?
 
So is there reason to believe now that can’t import giraffe mount or parts etc into the UNited States?

Wondering as
Trying to decipher all this is confusing.

The USA is a party to CITES and thus;
CITES APPENDIX II CAN BE EXPORTED AND IMPORTED. They just require a permit now.
Same as any other Appendix II species.
 
Any advice would be much appreciated. I have an old bull giraffe being dipped and packed in Namibia as I write this. WELL in Houston will be importing the crates and they have been very effective at importing several CITES trophies over past several years. I’ve never had an issue. Are there any proactive steps I should take at this point?

Just make them aware, if they are not already, that COP18 uplisted Giraffe. They should investigate and deal with it.
 
The USA is a party to CITES and thus;
CITES APPENDIX II CAN BE EXPORTED AND IMPORTED. They just require a permit now.
Same as any other Appendix II species.

One thing to be aware of is the propensity of the US to layer Endangered Species Act (or similar legislation) protection to animals on top of CITES protection.

So while @BRICKBURN is quite correct the Appendix II means only that an export permit will be required from the country of export, it is not clear if there will be a response from the US, which could require an import permit as well. In some cases, such as the polar bear, which is Appendix II, the US has banned the import of trophies completely.

There are always layers to these sorts of things. You can assume, without much fear of being wrong, that animal rights activists and anti-hunting activists will now use this "enhanced" status of the giraffe for their own purposes, and as the start, not the end, of the matter.
 
@Philip Glass i would love to see more of your son’s report and research on this topic. I am so frequently involved in the conversation about conservation and hunting that this kind of data will be helpful. I have a giraffe rug now and it certainly opens the topic.
 
Hey guys, I am week out from my trip to Limpopo. I have MTN Zebra and Giraffe on my hit list. From what I understand these are both App 2? What should I be aware of for bringing these back to Canada? Is it simply a form and a fee? What is the fee? Can it possible be denied? Any other BS to expect at the border? Thanks
 
My son took a old giraffe bull this summer. I haven’t seen or read that it will be a problem getting it into the USA, but I’ll watch this thread for any updates.
we had no issue bringing one into the USA in 2019.
 

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