Adjustable stocks

CBH Australia · Jul 20, 2019

I ordered a GRS Bifrost stock yesterday.. I have handled one of there laminate versions previously. I have a HB Tikka .22-250 now and the factory varmint stock is a touch long for me to be comfortable.
I like traditional looking hunting rifles but these caught my eye and I hope to rebarrel as a .308 later and Learn some long range skills
I’m not so keen on chassis style stocks.
I considered a Boyd’s At-One being cheaper but I found a GRS on special and had considered them previously. The Boyd’s are available reasonably priced most of the time.
Anyone use adjustable stocks or have any comments

bruce moulds · Jul 20, 2019

once you get them adjusted, you will never have to do it again.
this will save a lot of money on later stocks..
grs are good target and varmint stocks, but not so good on an all round hunting rifle.
this is mainly re pistol grip.
bruce.

BeeMaa · Jul 20, 2019

I was considering restocking a rifle for my wife with a GRS Hunter but we decided to go another direction.
They look very nice and well built, but the price is up there.
Thing is, you usually get what you pay for.
Buy once, cry once.

Good luck with it and let us know how it goes.

Hogpatrol · Jul 20, 2019

bruce moulds said:
once you get them adjusted, you will never have to do it again.
this will save a lot of money on later stocks..
grs are good target and varmint stocks, but not so good on an all round hunting rifle.
this is mainly re pistol grip.
bruce.

Bruce, I had an AT-One on a 28 Nosler Remington clone. A minor inconvenience but the cheekpiece had to be lowered to remove the bolt for cleaning. Setting on the verticals needs to be marked for repeat position. For those considering one, be advised the pistol grip must have been designed by a guy with huge, fat, well cushioned, cube shaped hands. It has sharp corners! Duh. They do now have a thumbhole version.

bruce moulds · Jul 20, 2019

thumbhole!
the worst thing you can put on a pure hunting stock, particularly in conjunction with a fat vertical pistol grip.
100s of years evolution of hunting rifle stocks comes to nothing in the minds of the marketing machine which has not one iota of an idea of what is required.
obviously those who purchase these products also have no idea.
this is indicative of where the world has gone and how far.
bruce.

Hogpatrol · Jul 20, 2019

bruce moulds said:
thumbhole!
the worst thing you can put on a pure hunting stock, particularly in conjunction with a fat vertical pistol grip.
100s of years evolution of hunting rifle stocks comes to nothing in the minds of the marketing machine which has not one iota of an idea of what is required.
obviously those who purchase these products also have no idea.
this is indicative of where the world has gone and how far.
bruce.

I have one! Now I'm crushed. :E Sad:

I feel like you just sat down next to me with a braked rifle. Oh wait, that's another thread.
:E Rofl:

bruce moulds · Jul 20, 2019

yes, a braked rifle with a grs stock and a 12 - 48 x 56 scope on it.
the ultimate modern hunting rifle.
bruce.

Hogpatrol · Jul 20, 2019

The GRS Bolthorn looks like the ticket. Lightweight, adjustable, sure to delight PHs & guides and sure to leave a profound effect on those viewing you holding that over your recently killed cape buffalo or Alaska brown bear.

https://www.grsriflestocks.com/rifle-stocks/grs-bolthorn

bruce moulds · Jul 20, 2019

if the photo is not of the buffalo or bear standing over you due to the fact you could not work the bolt effectively due to the thumbhole, and you could not shoot offhand properly due to pistol grip angle.
bruce.

CBH Australia · Jul 20, 2019

Interesting thoughts. I would also like a Boyds Pro Varmint in Coyote. Want want want.
My brother does not consider Tikka stocks a good fit. Yet We are similar in build.
With and adjustable i should be able to tailor to me or if needed change for different situation.
Also my wife brother or others could use it.
It will be my first vertical grip.
The stock and or subsequent build will only be a varmint or long range setup.
I have several Tikkas and will probably swap accessories like stocks bolt handes etc until i sirt my requirements.
A factory laminate is my hunting rifle.
Ive looked into carbon fibre too. But at $1000 aussie im waiting a bit. The GRS is $750 posted but $100 less than any other lidting i can find.

bruce moulds · Jul 20, 2019

looks like grs has come down from the crest of the popularity wave, as their prices seem to have done the same.
who got ripped off before?
bruce.

Red Leg · Jul 20, 2019

Thank God I was born before all this nonsense and will be long gone and unaffected before it runs its course. The ultimate "adjustable" stock is a wonderful piece of walnut perfectly fitted by a true craftsman to the owner. Thirty years ago I watched this craziness infect the shotgun world as guys tweaked combs, length of pull, whatever could be adjusted with an allen wrench, to try and make up for lousy shooting on a clays or skeet range. I still love to join a foursome with one of my century old SxS's without an adjustment screw or choke tube anywhere in the kit and break 48 for 50 on the clays course. A thumbhole grip on a bolt action rifle is the latest affection designed to bag hunters and shooters who seem equally mesmerized by the AR craze. I don't blame the gunmakers. If someone wants to spend money on that sort of silliness - more power to them. And I am sure it must make the wannabees swoon with envy. I tend to jump to the opposite conclusion when someone pulls something like that out of a case. Other than that, I have no strong feelings about the issue.

CBH Australia · Jul 20, 2019

Well said @Red Leg
I agree with the bit about the true craftsmen, if you have anything you want to bequeath to some one who will appreciate it PM me for my details.

I’m sure a lot of what you say rings true but I am hoping to learn some long range technique from research and practice. I am a hunter but also a gun enthusiast on an average wage. Fortunately I also have opportunity to eradicate introduced pest animals Given my work location I am trying to do all I can while I have ready access to neighbouring property.

Other than that I read, research and dream up, new ideas for what I need.

I hope,I have brought the right thing but I think it could be used prone or at the bench comfortably. Probably from the car on a short adjustment when spotlighting. I’m finding that getting. Quick sight picture in a hurry is difficult with current stock seated in different vehicles. Sure I can’t shorten it but maybe I can sell it and get a few dollars toward the next stock.
Presumably I can also use it for target shooting when I get time for club activities.
The main thing is I can swap it between my Tikkas so I should have options as my needs change.
It’s not intended as substitute for any hunting rifle stock. I see a lot of articles on long range hunting now people shooting well past 300 on game animals with specialised rifles its not my goal but if I can shoot accurately, competently , repeatedly and confidently out there I might try my hand on some pest animals with suitable loads.

nksmfamjp · Jul 20, 2019

Adjustable stocks are for when you need to adjust multiple times in the life of the rifle!

They are not meant to fit your rifle for hunting....a stockfitter does that from an XXX Turkish walnut blank, right!

CBH Australia · Jul 20, 2019

nksmfamjp said:
Adjustable stocks are for when you need to adjust multiple times in the life of the rifle!

They are not meant to fit your rifle for hunting....a stockfitter does that from an XXX Turkish walnut blank, right!

Like what I wrote above?

IvW · Jul 21, 2019

CBH Australia said:
I have a HB Tikka .22-250 now and the factory varmint stock is a touch long for me to be comfortable.

If that is the only issue, just have it shortened a touch then.....

CBH Australia · Jul 21, 2019

IvW where is the fun in that? It would work but I’m hoping to do swap scopes back and I can use my CTR from the car. I want to assemble some sort of long range set up but I’ve only just had this HB .22-250 done . I don’t see the GRS as a hunting stock or even a spotlighting stock but it may go ok out of the car.
I’m reading up on using the .22-250 long range, maybe 500m is long enough.
I did I not intend on using the 7mm-08 on foxes so much but it’s just handy from. The Vehicle and it Has accounted for a few pigs from the car.

bruce moulds · Jul 21, 2019

300 yds is a goddam long way on a fox in a spotlight.

Hogpatrol · Jul 21, 2019

bruce moulds said:
300 yds is a goddam long way on a fox in a spotlight.

With one of these, aim a little aft of the eyeballs.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G1JU4TK/ref=psdc_2445457011_t2_B06XVRQZMX

CBH Australia · Jul 21, 2019

bruce moulds said:
300 yds is a goddam long way on a fox in a spotlight.

Am I writing in a different language or have I made a claim that I shoot 300 yards in a spotlight?

With my Lightforce 240 spotlight 200 is a long way. I was out last night. I would rarely shoot past 100 in a spotlight and roo shooters I’ve been out with would rarely shoot 200 with a better light. Conditions would have to be ideal or the Roos are twitchy and they are working for them

I’m sure in other threads I have suggested that i only shoot to about 200 yards. Where I sight in I have measured and pegged 500 Yards with a measure. 91 metres per 100 yards . Close enough.

My gunsmith said use an MOA scope. I got a Sightron STac

In this thread I have said I want to change and reconfigure my Tikkas as things go along. And build or more appropriately assemble a long range rifle after having someone build the barreled action for me.

Ideally I would like to “learn some skills” stated previously and be competent in shooting pest animals at maybe 500m, Dingoes in particular from a vantage point, static position or suitable rest.

I’ve covered all this before. The opening was about getting people’s thoughts on the GRS stocks, I covered my panned progression once or twice in this thread already.

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