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Royal27 · Mar 26, 2019

Jussie Smollet just had his case dropped by the prosecutor.

White privilege strikes again!

LOL

Hogpatrol · Mar 26, 2019

Royal27 said:
Jussie Smollet just had his case dropped by the prosecutor.

White privilege strikes again!

LOL

Fear not. He'll screw up again.

Foxi · Mar 27, 2019

Hogpatrol said:
Having said that, these countries are back on their feet and still offloading their defense costs on the U.S. taxpayer and at the same time sticking it up OUR ass with TARIFFS on just about every manufactured goods TO PROTECT THEIR INDUSTRIES! Meanwhile, they have BETTER health care (among high income nations, we have the worst!) and that nice imported Mercedes, Volvo, BMW, Honda, Acura, ad nauseum we buy is subsidizing these countries defense, health care and other social "benefits".
I'm done.

Hogpatrol !
American cars don't want anybody in Germany (no 500 Cadillacs in 2017). That is certainly not due to the customs duties for your cars.
Please tell me why an(American) company does not adapt to the needs of the market ???
Why American buy German cars?
Because they are a fan of Germany ?
Certainly not.
But the product is appealing.
My Daimler SUVs I drove, was built in USA.
1.35 million Americans bought a car last year from Mercedes, BMW or from the VW group (VW, Audi, Porsche). But cars that didn't necessarily come from Germany: 800,000 of these cars came from plants in Alabama (Daimler), South Carolina (BMW) and Tennessee (VW).
German cars, built in the USA by Americans, are one of the country's biggest export hits - and this shows that it is not so easy with the punitive duties brought into play by Trump against German carmakers. Who should be subject to punitive duties here? And who should be punished for what? If the US government takes action against German carmakers , it will harm American workers who work for them.
Each medal has two sides.
Regards
Foxi

Hogpatrol · Mar 27, 2019

@Foxi, It's all bargaining. Germany needs to pick up more of the tab for their defense. Threaten tariffs, the automakers put pressure on the government and your country will have to pay more. The tariffs will have an insignificant effect on American workers. German badged autos will still be made, sold and serviced here.

Hogpatrol · Mar 27, 2019

Foxi · Mar 27, 2019

Hogpatrol said:
@Foxi, It's all bargaining. Germany needs to pick up more of the tab for their defense. Threaten tariffs, the automakers put pressure on the government and your country will have to pay more. The tariffs will have an insignificant effect on American workers. German badged autos will still be made, sold and serviced here.

Isn't that politicians' phrase, that we should spend more money on the military?
Against whom should we defend ourselves ?
Please tell me.
Putin needs our prosperity desperately , so that we can pay his gas bills.
Why are there, believe it or not, 35,000 US soldiers in Germany?
Nobody demands that from the Germans.
Cuio bono ?

Brent in Az · Mar 27, 2019

Trump #2020

Scott CWO · Mar 28, 2019

Foxi said:
Isn't that politicians' phrase, that we should spend more money on the military?
Against whom should we defend ourselves ?
Please tell me.
Putin needs our prosperity desperately , so that we can pay his gas bills.
Why are there, believe it or not, 35,000 US soldiers in Germany?
Nobody demands that from the Germans.
Cuio bono ?

We shed blood on your soil twice. Forget the mistakes of the past and you are doomed to repeat them. Your nonchalant attitude towards your own defense is strikingly convenient! It reminds me of the attitudes prevailing in Europe after WWI. Then, it happened again. Pull your head out of the sand.

Hogpatrol · Mar 28, 2019

@Foxi, Americans aren't buying German cars. The majority, close to 60%, are leasing them because of the deals they offer and the cachet they represent to others that give a shit what someone drives. My sister owned a Mercedes and it was a piece of junk, in the shop more than on the road. She now has a Cadillac. For my two cents, the best car out there is a Honda. YMMV.

Foxi · Mar 28, 2019

Scott CWO said:
We shed blood on your soil twice. Forget the mistakes of the past and you are doomed to repeat them. Your nonchalant attitude towards your own defense is strikingly convenient! It reminds me of the attitudes prevailing in Europe after WWI. Then, it happened again. Pull your head out of the sand.

"We shed blood on your soil twice. "
You didn't fight for us but against us and that 2x,
or am I mistaken?

"It reminds me of the attitudes prevailing in Europe after WWI. "

US President Wilson was a totally incompetent president, who played a large part in Europe's insecurity, an educated fool, who had no idea of Europe's internal conditions.
Fortunately the world had inWW 2 Roosevelt, almost to the end.
This man was a blessing.

jeanes · Mar 28, 2019

Actually, I think George Marshall was more of a blessing for war torn Europe.

Foxi · Mar 28, 2019

jeanes said:
Actually, I think George Marshall was more of a blessing for war torn Europe.

unlike Morgenthau, who would have only produced a new Adolf.

Scott CWO · Mar 28, 2019

Foxi said:
"We shed blood on your soil twice. "
You didn't fight for us but against us and that 2x,
or am I mistaken?

"It reminds me of the attitudes prevailing in Europe after WWI. "

US President Wilson was a totally incompetent president, who played a large part in Europe's insecurity, an educated fool, who had no idea of Europe's internal conditions.
Fortunately the world had inWW 2 Roosevelt, almost to the end.
This man was a blessing.

Are you saying that you are on the side of the Nazis? Obviously we fought against Germany under Nazi control.

Yes, Wilson was inept and the Treaty of Versailles was a joke. However, blaming him for WWII is a convenient way to white wash Germany’s primary role.

The USA was left with an isolationist viewpoint after WWI so FDR didn’t officially get the USA fully into WWII until the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. He was almost too late.

Since then the USA has kept troops around the world to prevent WWIII and all we want is for you to pay your fair share. Acting like Russia is not a threat to Germany is naive and very convenient for your budget is it not?

Scott CWO · Mar 28, 2019

Hogpatrol said:
@Foxi, Americans aren't buying German cars. The majority, close to 60%, are leasing them because of the deals they offer and the cachet they represent to others that give a shit what someone drives. My sister owned a Mercedes and it was a piece of junk, in the shop more than on the road. She now has a Cadillac. For my two cents, the best car out there is a Honda. YMMV.

Yes my neighbor had a BMW but got rid of it as it was always in the repair shop.

sgt_zim · Mar 28, 2019

Scott CWO said:
Are you saying that you are on the side of the Nazis? Obviously we fought against Germany under Nazi control.

Yes, Wilson was inept and the Treaty of Versailles was a joke. However, blaming him for WWII is a convenient way to white wash Germany’s primary role.

The USA was left with an isolationist viewpoint after WWI so FDR didn’t officially get the USA fully into WWII until the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. He was almost too late.

Since then the USA has kept troops around the world to prevent WWIII and all we want is for you to pay your fair share. Acting like Russia is not a threat to Germany is naive and very convenient for your budget is it not?

I'm amused by his reverence for FDR. Perhaps only Wilson did more to undermine this republic than Roosevelt.

Longwalker · Mar 30, 2019

just for another perspective...

JERUSALEM – In response to US President Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital, the Palestinian National Authority has announced that it will recognize Texas as a state of Mexico since it was violently annexed by the United States in the 1840s.

“The territory north and east of the Rio Grande is very important to the Mexican people,” explained a PNA spokesperson. “Before American settlers showed up and implemented slavery, Mexico oversaw this land. Then, President Polk sent his armies to invade the rest of these Mexican territories, and force the country to give up California, New Mexico, most of Arizona, Nevada, and Utah, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado. We may soon recognize these states as part of Mexico too.”

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas says that this is a new approach to Mexican-US relations, and hopes it will help ease the tension between the two countries over security and immigration.

“We understand that the Mexican state of Texas is a sacred place for many large-buckled Americans, but they can rest assured that a two-state solution or a wall was not feasible,” explained Abbas.

“Besides, most people in Texas speak Spanish.”

The Palestinian consulate in Mexico City will soon be moved to Houston to formally recognize the seized territory as part of Mexico.

At press time, President Trump hopes that his recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital will offer a new path for Middle East violence.

sgt_zim · Mar 30, 2019

Longwalker said:
just for another perspective...

JERUSALEM – In response to US President Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital, the Palestinian National Authority has announced that it will recognize Texas as a state of Mexico since it was violently annexed by the United States in the 1840s.

“The territory north and east of the Rio Grande is very important to the Mexican people,” explained a PNA spokesperson. “Before American settlers showed up and implemented slavery, Mexico oversaw this land. Then, President Polk sent his armies to invade the rest of these Mexican territories, and force the country to give up California, New Mexico, most of Arizona, Nevada, and Utah, and parts of Wyoming and Colorado. We may soon recognize these states as part of Mexico too.”

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas says that this is a new approach to Mexican-US relations, and hopes it will help ease the tension between the two countries over security and immigration.

“We understand that the Mexican state of Texas is a sacred place for many large-buckled Americans, but they can rest assured that a two-state solution or a wall was not feasible,” explained Abbas.

“Besides, most people in Texas speak Spanish.”

The Palestinian consulate in Mexico City will soon be moved to Houston to formally recognize the seized territory as part of Mexico.

At press time, President Trump hopes that his recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital will offer a new path for Middle East violence.

pssst... Most of "Palestine" is in Jordan. Per the Balfour Agreement, 2/3 of "Palestine" is in fact in Jordan. I guess those 'evil Jooooz' make a convenient target.

But if we want to play that game...Texas was only part of independent Mexico for 26 years. In contrast, Jerusalem has been Jewish for most of the last 2500 years, maybe longer than that.

Also keep in mind that there were an awful lot of Texicans whose last named ended in a vowel or "z" who also wanted independence from Mexico in 1835/36. Matter of fact, every single native Texan who died defending The Alamo had a surname ending in a vowel or "z." Every. Single. One. The only Anglos who died defending The Alamo were transplants like William Barret Travis (from South Carolina), Jim Bowie (Kentucky), and Davy Crockett (Tennessee). The brown people in Texas hated Santa Anna as much as the white people hated him.

Longwalker · Mar 30, 2019

Interesting. And thanks in advance for the education. What does it mean "every single native Texan who died defending The Alamo had a surname ending in a vowel or "z." Every. Single. One."

sgt_zim · Mar 30, 2019

Garcia, Gonzalez, Martinez, Bautista, etc. IOW, names we ordinarily consider to be "Mexican".

Last time I was there, I read every name. No Anglos who died there were born in Texas.

jeanes · Mar 31, 2019

Texas was not violently annexed by the United States. She won her independence from Mexico on 21 April, 1836 at the battle of San Jacinto. She applied to join the United States in 1845 and was peacefully admitted. I realize what you attempted was intended as provocative humor, but I have a problem with perverted history. I also had ancestors that were slaughtered at Goliad by Santa's army so I'm a bit touchy on the subject.

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