Blaser R8 In Large Calibers

I'm watching this with great interest. Are there examples of feeding issues specifically with the .458 Lott?

I can't see it being any different to any other calibre in an R8. The magazine is a rotary style magazine and are made specifically for different cartridge families. The round being fed is held in line with the chamber and pushed forward by the bolt. It is not a double stack style magazine and the rounds to do not get pushed sideways at all.
 
I cannot compare my R8 with a double trigger rifle as I have never owned one. I cannot imagine anything faster than a double gun. That said, the straight pull Blaser is VERY fast to get a second shot on target. A regular bolt gun has an angular twist to it when you chamber a round - because of this I cannot stay on target as well with any traditional bolt gun on the 2nd follow up shot. As for accuracy, I have 1MOA accuracy with my .375 H&H and my .300 Win Mag. The barrels I have are the heavy Safari grade barrels. They come with open sights and they seem immune to to point-of-impact creep due to heat. I use Zeiss Victory scopes with my Blaser.

The bolt on a Blaser is actually a slide. It's FAST. You want to see a Blaser in the hands of an expert? Have a look:

Pick your rifle - I picked the R8 Safari Kilombero (http://www.blaser-usa.com/index.php?id=224&L=1) for a few reasons. The Kilombero has a steel receiver which added weight but also strength. It's got a built in recoil reducer. It works. It also has REALLY nice wood and who wants to hunt with an ugly gun. :D

There are incredible advantages to the Blaser system mostly due to interchangeability. The scopes mount TO THE BARREL. Think about it - you can have a scope-barrel combo in any caliber you want.

Now on to weight. You do NOT want a super light gun in these calibers/loads. You may think you are ahead carrying an ultra light but IMHO a heavier rifle is better in these calibers when you take the shot. Recoil on both my .375 H&H and my .300 Win Mag are very manageable, light in fact. The Kilombero has a built in recoil reducer as I mentioned. Think about it: you will be carrying your rifle on a sling and taking maybe 1-3 shots per day MAX. If you're concerned about weight get a Vero Vellini double sling (I have one) which allows you to carry your rifle like a back pack. You'll hardly notice the weight using that sling.

Skip the magna-port.

I tend to look at my existing bolt action rifles like outdated relics. Don't get me wrong, I love my '03A3 Springfield, my '17 Eddystone and my Browning BBR's. I hunt and compete with them. But they don't compare to my Blaser. It's like comparing vacuum tubes and integrated circuits.

Vero Vellini Double Sling:
https://www.vero-vellini.com/collec...ccessories/products/vero-vellini-double-sling
 

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When you guys say steel receiver, do you mean the rails that the bolt runs on are steel? As far as I can see, the bolt rides on a set of rails that are a part of the stock, and locks directly into the breech of the barrel. So essentially no receiver like a regular bolt rifle.
Correct. The unexpected result is that you get the same barrel length in a shorter rifle.
 
Does anyone have experience with the Blaser R8 in something like a 458 Lott or similar caliber, with second barrel in something like 300 Win mag? Seems almost as fast as a double rifle, and very versatile.

Hi there
I am a ph in SA and an outfitter for around 14 years now
I have a R8 in 416Rem mag and second barrel in 300 win mag
Best combo ever. Dont have to change anything in magazine or bolt head. U just change barrels
I use the 416 as my go to gun in all of big game guiding and sometimes its my backup for plains game too
And yes its fast to reload and never had an issue with it in anyway

Stuart
 
Between TOBY458 talking about getting a Blaser and NurseFet actually buying a Blaser...now I'm wanting a Blaser.
 
Hi there
I am a ph in SA and an outfitter for around 14 years now
I have a R8 in 416Rem mag and second barrel in 300 win mag
Best combo ever. Dont have to change anything in magazine or bolt head. U just change barrels
I use the 416 as my go to gun in all of big game guiding and sometimes its my backup for plains game too
And yes its fast to reload and never had an issue with it in anyway

Stuart

Following this thread with great interest. The wife fell in love with the Blaser R8 at DSC this year, so it's definitely the next rifle we're purchasing.

Thinking about calibers, we knew we wanted a 300 win mag for sure. For second caliber, thinking 416 will be best.

Thanks for all the commentary. Sounds like the R8 will be a good buy and reliable rifle.
 
So, what is so special about the R8? This is what I am trying to sort out to understand why I am tempted...

Accuracy? Trigger? Ergonomics? Quick detach scope? Integral scope "bases"? Yes, they are all exceptional based on reports from credible owners, but, in truth, we all have traditional bolt action rifles over which the R8 offers nothing in these aspects that we do not already have...

Caliber interchangeability? I really wrestle with this one...

1) PG to PG ? After going through many PG calibers from 6 mm Rem/.243 Win to .338 Win/.340 Wby, and virtually anything in between, (three full safes are the proof, although I just started thinning the herd by selling a Sauer 7 mm Rem Mag and a Steyr 7x64), I am coming to the slow conclusion that a .300 with 130 gr TTSX shoots dang near as flat as a .257 WBY with 100 gr for the small stuff, and that same .300 with a 200 gr TSX and a couple clicks on the Schmidt & Bender scope will do anything I will ever need done on the large PG stuff. So I de facto already have "two calibers," or even "three calibers" in one with a .300 if one considers the versatility of a 165 gr TTSX...
Note that I did not characterize the .300. It can be a Win Mag if you are happy with a 300 yd MPBR or it can be a fast Wby / RUM / Nosler / etc. if you want 20 additional yd of MPBR, which is not earth shattering but real nonetheless...

2) PG to DG ? This is the obvious selling point! Go from .300 to .375 or .40+ in a minute or two. But I can't see using a R8 over the double Krieghoff I already own, up close (30 to 70 yd), and I don't see the point of shooting a buff at 100 or 150 yd with a scope. To me that lowers the buff to the status of a glorified Black Wildebeest... I am totally OK with people who think otherwise, but would I ever use the R8 on DG ?
Mine has become semi retired after using my double 470.

So, is the fact that the R8 can be taken apart to travel with a "normal" suitcase-sized Pelican (that can also house a double) all there is to it, if you use a double for DG? I dunno.......... Why am I so tempted ??????????

Red Leg, help! What am I missing? Did you stop hunting with the S2 since you have the R8?
 
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One big bonus of barrel interchangeability is that the rest of the rifle is the same. Same trigger pull, same feel, same length of pull etc. You could practice with a smaller, cheaper calibre to get use to the rifle before switching to the larger calibre.
The Blaser R8 is not for everyone, the selling points for it might not be what you require.
The feeding and speed of reloading is amazing on the R8 though.
 
So, what is so special about the R8? This is what I am trying to sort out to understand why I am tempted...

Accuracy? Trigger? Ergonomics? Quick detach scope? Integral scope "bases"? Yes, they are all exceptional based on reports from credible owners, but, in truth, we all have traditional bolt action rifles over which the R8 offers nothing in these aspects that we do not already have...

Caliber interchangeability? I really wrestle with this one...

1) PG to PG ? After going through many PG calibers from 6 mm Rem/.243 Win to .338 Win/.340 Wby, and virtually anything in between, (three full safes are the proof, although I just started thinning the herd by selling a Sauer 7 mm Rem Mag and a Steyr 7x64), I am coming to the slow conclusion that a .300 with 130 gr TTSX shoots dang near as flat as a .257 WBY with 100 gr for the small stuff, and that same .300 with a 200 gr TSX and a couple clicks on the Schmidt & Bender scope will do anything I will ever need done on the large PG stuff. So I de facto already have "two calibers," or even "three calibers" in one with a .300 if one considers the versatility of a 165 gr TTSX...
Note that I did not characterize the .300. It can be a Win Mag if you are happy with a 300 yd MPBR or it can be a fast Wby / RUM / Nosler / etc. if you want 20 additional yd of MPBR, which is not earth shattering but real nonetheless...

2) PG to DG ? This is the obvious selling point! Go from .300 to .375 or .40+ in a minute or two. But I can't see using a R8 over the double Krieghoff I already own, up close (30 to 70 yd), and I don't see the point of shooting a buff at 100 or 150 yd with a scope. To me that lowers the buff to the status of a glorified Black Wildebeest... I am totally OK with people who think otherwise, but would I ever use the R8 on DG ?


So, is the fact that the R8 can be taken apart to travel with a "normal" suitcase-sized Pelican (that can also house a double) all there is to it, if you use a double for DG? I dunno.......... Why am I so tempted ??????????

Red Leg, help! What am I missing? Did you stop hunting with the S2 since you have the R8?
I am not going to try to convince you to purchase the R8 in any caliber. But you are correct, I have not taken my S2 out of the gun room since I purchased mine. I also haven't used the lovely custom .375 (built on an FN action) with which I killed my first buffalo in the Caprivi. It is purely a subjective appreciation of the R8's "feel" - along with that remarkable trigger. Because of its compact action, it is able to take advantage of many of the attributes of the Ruger No. 1 or Dakota. Though it transports in no smaller a case than my S2, the rifle, and ensuing case weigh significantly less. It is far handier than any double of similar caliber during a long hike in the thorns.

It's pinpoint accuracy and "shootability" come into play with dangerous game, particularly buffalo or leopard, not through range potential, but through precise shot placement. The buffalo at which I have pointed a rifle or which I have evaluated for a potential shot, have yet to offer a broadside presentation on a golf course. Angles tend to be odd and shooting windows quite narrow. Unlike a lot of minute of buffalo rifles, I have absolute confidence that the R8 will put a 300 gr bullet through the tiniest window into the precise tennis ball bit of hide I intend to strike. It is a rifle in which I have total and complete confidence. It will also have that second round in position so quickly that any difference with the S2 is theoretical rather than practical.

Lastly, I must confess that I have not taken a second barrel and caliber with me to Africa with the R8. I did bring along 30-06 barrels with my S2 in .375 on my first trip to Mozambique. But the .375 is so versatile, I have simply had no need for another caliber. But the 300WM barrel is ready to go this spring to BC.
 
Anyone experiences with the .500 Jefferey?
So, what is so special about the R8? This is what I am trying to sort out to understand why I am tempted...

Accuracy? Trigger? Ergonomics? Quick detach scope? Integral scope "bases"? Yes, they are all exceptional based on reports from credible owners, but, in truth, we all have traditional bolt action rifles over which the R8 offers nothing in these aspects that we do not already have...

Caliber interchangeability? I really wrestle with this one...

1) PG to PG ? After going through many PG calibers from 6 mm Rem/.243 Win to .338 Win/.340 Wby, and virtually anything in between, (three full safes are the proof, although I just started thinning the herd by selling a Sauer 7 mm Rem Mag and a Steyr 7x64), I am coming to the slow conclusion that a .300 with 130 gr TTSX shoots dang near as flat as a .257 WBY with 100 gr for the small stuff, and that same .300 with a 200 gr TSX and a couple clicks on the Schmidt & Bender scope will do anything I will ever need done on the large PG stuff. So I de facto already have "two calibers," or even "three calibers" in one with a .300 if one considers the versatility of a 165 gr TTSX...
Note that I did not characterize the .300. It can be a Win Mag if you are happy with a 300 yd MPBR or it can be a fast Wby / RUM / Nosler / etc. if you want 20 additional yd of MPBR, which is not earth shattering but real nonetheless...

2) PG to DG ? This is the obvious selling point! Go from .300 to .375 or .40+ in a minute or two. But I can't see using a R8 over the double Krieghoff I already own, up close (30 to 70 yd), and I don't see the point of shooting a buff at 100 or 150 yd with a scope. To me that lowers the buff to the status of a glorified Black Wildebeest... I am totally OK with people who think otherwise, but would I ever use the R8 on DG ?


So, is the fact that the R8 can be taken apart to travel with a "normal" suitcase-sized Pelican (that can also house a double) all there is to it, if you use a double for DG? I dunno.......... Why am I so tempted ??????????
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The answer is simple,..... everything you have in a Mercedes-Benz, you also have in a Hyundai...… but nontheless, some feel a difference.

HWL
 
The answer is simple,..... everything you have in a Mercedes-Benz, you also have in a Hyundai...… but nontheless, some feel a difference. HWL
Well ... since I have been driving for a few years a Mercedes S500, and a BMW 740 before that, I understand the comparison, and for what it is worth my other rifles are made by Griffin & Howe, Dumoulin, Sauer, Steyr, Mauser, Kreighoff, etc. - and also Weatherby since the others pain to produce stainless/kevlar bang sticks, which I personally find most desirable in some climates - so I am not entirely sure that all these need to take a second seat to Blaser when it comes to quality, performance, etc.

Good "one liner" HWL, but a tad out of context ;)
 
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I am not going to try to convince you to purchase the R8 in any caliber. But you are correct, I have not taken my S2 out of the gun room since I purchased mine. .........
Thanks for the answer Red Leg, it does not surprise me, and this is exactly what intrigues me in the R8.

It seems to somehow transcend the obvious rationales: using a bolt action instead of a double despite owning one; taking only one barrel to Africa despite owning several; etc. etc.

I would not ask if I was not seriously considering it, so I appreciate you sharing the experience. I am hovering between 1) going on as is (multitude of specialized rifles); 2) the multi-barrels concept - for which I received an attractive quote; or 3) taking the quantum leap and finishing my hunting life with one rifle / maybe just one barrel, and selling all the rest since the kids do not seem overly interested in French walnut, rust blue, claw mounts, and other gunsmithing-as-an-art-form intricacies...

Thank you.
 
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Thanks for the answer Red Leg, it does not surprise me, and this is exactly what intrigues me in the R8.

It seems to somehow transcend the obvious rationales: using a bolt action instead of a double despite owning one; taking only one barrel to Africa despite owning several; etc. etc.

I would not ask if I was not seriously considering it, so I appreciate you sharing the experience. I am hovering between 1) going on as is (multitude of specialized rifles); 2) the multi-barrels concept - for which I received an attractive quote; or 3) taking the quantum leap and finishing my hunting life with one rifle / maybe just one barrel, and selling all the rest since the kids do not seem overly interested in French walnut, rust blue, claw mounts, and other gunsmithing-as-an-art-form intricacies...

Thank you.
@One Day we sometimes talk past each other. And that is neither a bad or good thing - it is just a thing. It is perhaps worth telling, that I am an intuitive rather than an analytical thinker and decision maker (would absolutely drive the XO's, S3's, and software and systems engineers who worked for me insane ;)). Judging by your analytical writing style, I am confident that I could make you crazy in short order as well. Other than economic ones, I truly do not understand struggles about a new rifle or gun. I can pick one up and KNOW withing 10 seconds or so if I will like it or hate it - The same with a business case or concept of operations. My only real question is the aforementioned economic imperative. In military and business decisions, I tended to be spectacularly correct or spectacularly wrong. Fortunately, the former far outweighed the later. I suspect my firearms score is about the same - though I readily admit missing the occasional cracked stock or broken spring. The good news is that I have a wonderful group of firearms, the vast majority of which, I truly love. Alas, it can lead to issues such as three .270's, three .375's, two 9.3x62s etc, etc. And their collective capabilities overlap every which way possible. But I don't even reflect on that kind of thing, because the rifle in my hands is the one I "feel" like carrying. Right now, I really like using the R8. You can not imagine how difficult it is for me to articulate specific reasons why I prefer a particular firearm. :(

I also don't worry too much about the perfect battery for the rest of my life (as in not at all). I am pretty sure no such thing survives the next analysis among those who enjoy such lint picking. And I hasten to add, I am not being critical of the exercise. I understand it is a form of fun or necessary thinking for some people - maybe most. It is just totally lost on me. Seriously. So, for however long I have, I am surrounded by old and new friends whom I really like. Should I drop dead tomorrow, my lovely widow has the name of an honest auction house that will get her a terrific return on the collection. My son, who is a hunter, has permission to pick out up to six for himself. But until then, I'll keep using the one that feels best for that particular adventure. My current favorite mistress happens to be made by Blaser - at least for a mixed bag hunt in Africa.

However, I will let you in on a secret. Assuming I am still healthy and north of Hades, I am seriously contemplating Uganda in '21. If I were leaving tomorrow, I would bring along my Birmingham .470. The R8 would be perfect, but this won't be my first buffalo rodeo, and somehow the thought of a Nile Buffalo FEELS perfectly matched to double barrels and triggers. (y)
 
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@One Day ... I am an intuitive rather than an analytical thinker and decision maker (would absolutely drive the XO's, S3's, and software and systems engineers who worked for me insane ;)). Judging by your analytical writing style, I am confident that I could make you crazy in short order as well. Other than economic ones, I truly do not understand struggles about a new rifle or gun. I can pick one up and KNOW withing 10 seconds or so if I will like it or hate it. The same with a business case or concept of operations. My only real question is the aforementioned economic imperative. In military and business decisions, I tended to be spectacularly correct or spectacularly wrong. Fortunately, the former far outweighed the later. I suspect my firearms score is about the same - though I readily admit missing the occasional cracked stock or broken spring. The good news is that I have a wonderful group of firearms, the vast majority of which, I truly love. Alas, it can lead to issues such as three .270's, three .375's, two 9.3x62s etc, etc. And their collective capabilities overlap every which way possible. But I don't even reflect on that kind of thing, because the rifle in my hands is the one I "feel" like carrying. Right now, I really like using the R8. You can not imagine how difficult it is for me to articulate specific reasons why I prefer a particular firearm. :(

I also don't worry too much about the perfect battery for the rest of my life (as in not at all). I am pretty sure no such thing survives the next analysis among those who enjoy such lint picking. And I hasten to add, I am not being critical of the exercise. I understand it is a form of fun or necessary thinking for some people - maybe most. It is just totally lost on me. Seriously. So, for however long I have, I am surrounded by old and new friends whom I really like. Should I drop dead tomorrow, my lovely widow has the name of an honest auction house that will get her a terrific return on the collection. My son, who is a hunter, has permission to pick out up to six for himself. But until then, I'll keep using the one that feels best for that particular adventure. My current favorite mistress happens to be made by Blaser - at least for a mixed bag hunt in Africa.

I will let you in on a secret. Assuming I am still healthy and north of Hades, I am seriously contemplating Uganda in '21. If I were leaving tomorrow, I would bring along my Birmingham .470. The R8 would be perfect, but this won't be my first buffalo rodeo, and somehow the thought of a Nile Buffalo FEELS perfectly matched to double barrels and triggers. (y)
 
@One Day we sometimes talk past each other. And that is neither a bad or good thing - it is just a thing. It is perhaps worth telling, that I am an intuitive rather than an analytical thinker and decision maker (would absolutely drive the XO's, S3's, and software and systems engineers who worked for me insane ;)). Judging by your analytical writing style, I am confident that I could make you crazy in short order as well. Other than economic ones, I truly do not understand struggles about a new rifle or gun. I can pick one up and KNOW withing 10 seconds or so if I will like it or hate it - The same with a business case or concept of operations. My only real question is the aforementioned economic imperative. In military and business decisions, I tended to be spectacularly correct or spectacularly wrong. Fortunately, the former far outweighed the later. I suspect my firearms score is about the same - though I readily admit missing the occasional cracked stock or broken spring. The good news is that I have a wonderful group of firearms, the vast majority of which, I truly love. Alas, it can lead to issues such as three .270's, three .375's, two 9.3x62s etc, etc. And their collective capabilities overlap every which way possible. But I don't even reflect on that kind of thing, because the rifle in my hands is the one I "feel" like carrying. Right now, I really like using the R8. You can not imagine how difficult it is for me to articulate specific reasons why I prefer a particular firearm. :(

I also don't worry too much about the perfect battery for the rest of my life (as in not at all). I am pretty sure no such thing survives the next analysis among those who enjoy such lint picking. And I hasten to add, I am not being critical of the exercise. I understand it is a form of fun or necessary thinking for some people - maybe most. It is just totally lost on me. Seriously. So, for however long I have, I am surrounded by old and new friends whom I really like. Should I drop dead tomorrow, my lovely widow has the name of an honest auction house that will get her a terrific return on the collection. My son, who is a hunter, has permission to pick out up to six for himself. But until then, I'll keep using the one that feels best for that particular adventure. My current favorite mistress happens to be made by Blaser - at least for a mixed bag hunt in Africa.

However, I will let you in on a secret. Assuming I am still healthy and north of Hades, I am seriously contemplating Uganda in '21. If I were leaving tomorrow, I would bring along my Birmingham .470. The R8 would be perfect, but this won't be my first buffalo rodeo, and somehow the thought of a Nile Buffalo FEELS perfectly matched to double barrels and triggers. (y)
Amen on feel and intuition! Likes and dislikes of many things, firearms included, are generally more irrational than rational, but there must also be some profound unconscious process where the man/machine interface is involved. I personally experience it in three domains: handling a firearm or a fly fishing rod, and riding a motorcycle (sport or dirt). Can't say why or why not but I know - generally instantly - when it is IT or not... This is probably the reason why the R8 tempts me after handling it...

At the same time, I am ALSO trying to avoid the "spectacular mistake," be it technical (wrong caliber, bullet, season, place, etc.); human (wrong PH, hunting group, etc.); or financial (capricious expense, etc.). At this stage, I am not entirely sure that the R8 justifies in my eyes what it costs if I do not actually use its main advantage i.e. barrel interchangeability, hence the analytical cost & benefit approach.

Interestingly, I have had a long (35 years) period in life when I enjoyed the entirely whimsical pick of one rifle over the others for that day's hunt, and I have done it to excess, like 4 different rifles in 4 days on deer in PA or TX, but for a not too understood reason, it looks like I am evolving toward simplicity, practicality and predictability. The first sign was moving away from walnut and blue steel toward stainless and kevlar a few years ago when caring for linseed oil and rust blue became more chore than labor of love - I made some "spectacular technical mistakes" with show guns that felt really good but were utterly not adapted to where I took them (Alaska or Newfoundland, not to mention US airports LOL) - and it seems that the pick of the day is now less fun and that I am now more looking toward the functionality of just a few rifles or maybe just one...

As to my collection, if its destiny is to become hard cash anyway, in all due respect to the kids, I will rather spend that cash myself and go hunting more in further places...
 
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As to my collection, if its destiny is to become hard cash anyway, in all due respect to the kids, I will rather spend that cash myself and go hunting more in further places...
+1
And let the last check bounce.

Cheers mate.
 
Amen on feel and intuition! Likes and dislikes of many things, firearms included, are generally more irrational than rational, but there must also be some profound unconscious process where the man/machine interface is involved. I personally experience it in three domains: handling a firearm or a fly fishing rod, and riding a motorcycle (sport or dirt). Can't say why or why not but I know - generally instantly - when it is IT or not... This is probably the reason why the R8 tempts me after handling it...

At the same time, I am ALSO trying to avoid the "spectacular mistake," be it technical (wrong caliber, bullet, season, place, etc.); human (wrong PH, hunting group, etc.); or financial (capricious expense, etc.). At this stage, I am not entirely sure that the R8 justifies in my eyes what it costs if I do not actually use its main advantage i.e. barrel interchangeability, hence the analytical cost & benefit approach.

Interestingly, I have had a long (35 years) period in life when I enjoyed the entirely whimsical pick of one rifle over the others for that day's hunt, and I have done it to excess, like 4 different rifles in 4 days on deer in PA or TX, but for a not too understood reason, it looks like I am evolving toward simplicity, practicality and predictability. The first sign was moving away from walnut and blue steel toward stainless and kevlar a few years ago when caring for linseed oil and rust blue became more chore than labor of love - I made some "spectacular technical mistakes" with show guns that felt really good but were utterly not adapted to where I took them (Alaska or Newfoundland, not to mention US airports LOL) - and it seems that the pick of the day is now less fun and that I am now more looking toward the functionality of just a few rifles or maybe just one...

As to my collection, if its destiny is to become hard cash anyway, in all due respect to the kids, I will rather spend that cash myself and go hunting more in further places...
Sure, why not. You have total propriety over any such decision you make. It is neither right or wrong. It is simply what is right for you. I could give a farthing about functionality if it isn't in something I enjoy carrying. What I enjoy carrying is typically rust blued and walnut. On something like my R8, I can live with a coating that looks like rust blue. In any case, for me, classic creations of the gunmakers' art are still very much a labor of love. But I also get how someone would derive enjoyment out of pure functionality, or as you say, simplicity. The chorus should chime in with form following function about now. :) If you intend to sell firearms to generate disposable income - sure - that is a logical course of action. Mine will be part of my estate. That will work for us. That should in no way be interpreted as a recommendation for anyone else.
 
Hi all
One thing to add here
Be clever on choosing the calibre/barrel combination
If you choose say a 30 mag and a big cal mag calibre then u have the added benefit of no bolt head change and sometimes no different in magazine either
This just adds to the convenience

Also just a note u can get the third and fourth shots off extremely quickly!!!

Regards

Stuart
 
Sure, why not. You have total propriety over any such decision you make. It is neither right or wrong. It is simply what is right for you. I could give a farthing about functionality if it isn't in something I enjoy carrying. What I enjoy carrying is typically rust blued and walnut. On something like my R8, I can live with a coating that looks like rust blue. In any case, for me, classic creations of the gunmakers' art are still very much a labor of love. But I also get how someone would derive enjoyment out of pure functionality, or as you say, simplicity. The chorus should chime in with form following function about now. :) If you intend to sell firearms to generate disposable income - sure - that is a logical course of action. Mine will be part of my estate. That will work for us. That should in no way be interpreted as a recommendation for anyone else.
Entirely agreed, with the full acknowledgment that we have drifted deep into matters more philosophical and appropriate to camp fire, cigar and cognac time, than practical and relevant to R8 in large calibers. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing. We were right to serve to defend it.
 
OK found 2 cents - Firstly - If an action fails two barrels are useless - the reason for taking a second rifle is redundancy, Paul or Peter Paul Mauser kinda nailed it in 98 with the action which bears his name .......... CRF or CFR as seems to be coming popular - Works - Cost jeasus lads and for the love of the wallet - the cost of these Blasers are insane - a 2nd hand CZ550 or one its ilk ..... one of the many that never have seen Africa because they left it too late - Anyhow another topic - grab any decent CZ spend a few pennies making it fit you - and GO TO AFRICA ! Last trip took a Thompson Center 7mm rem mag cost a few hundred dollars - culling over 40 animals in the freezer - so at say 10 dollars per animal ;-) It owes me nothing - on way home went missing for a couple of days - Never gave it a second thought ! OK 2 cents spent !
 

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