375H&H...now what?

Von S. · Sep 4, 2018

BRICKBURN said:
Caribou, pick a country.

Above the Hudson Bay or Adak Island.

Want the real big one go to Adak.

Want wolves go above the Hudson, want to be eaten by wolves be on the first flight in. It's like dropping in a hot LZ......jump out shooting.

BeeMaa · Sep 4, 2018

PHOENIX PHIL said:
Will you be taking the bride with you?

If I go, my bride goes.
She's tougher than most, and a pretty damn good shot with her 270 WIN.
Example...rode 13 hours in the rain, in a motorcycle sidecar, got out at the hotel...dripping wet asked if the pool was open.
Great woman with a sense of humor and love for the outdoors.
She's earned her stripes and goes where I go, no questions.

BeeMaa · Sep 4, 2018

WAB said:
I used the .375 when deer hunting the islands in Prince William Sound, Alaska. You never knew when you would bump into a brown bear.

In NW Wyoning the bears know a rifle shot means a game animal is down, and they move in to "bump" the hunter off the kill.
One more reason to have an extra set of eyes (me) looking around as my wife dresses the game.

Pheroze said:
Great post. I think to justify the weight you lug around it would have to be somewhere where the animal poses a serious danger. I have taken mine moose hunting but the rifle bulkiness gets to me in that terrain after a while. Having said that, I think Alsaka, North BC are perfect places.

The weight of my 375 is a bit heavy I have to admit, but I've never had a problem lugging it all day.
After the first couple of days I'm used to it, but I believe I understand your point.
Heavy gun should be used for heavy game...right?

Pheroze · Sep 4, 2018

BeeMaa said:
The weight of my 375 is a bit heavy I have to admit, but I've never had a problem lugging it all day.
After the first couple of days I'm used to it, but I believe I understand your point.
Heavy gun should be used for heavy game...right?

I am coming to that theory. I enjoy the caliber so much I tried to make it my first choice for moose. But this year I am going with a 30 cal of some form. I just found trudging through the swamps and overgrown areas to be a little more effort then it needs to be. Your thread keeps me ruminating on it

it is a great caliber.

BeeMaa · Sep 4, 2018

Pheroze said:
I am coming to that theory. I enjoy the caliber so much I tried to make it my first choice for moose. But this year I am going with a 30 cal of some form. I just found trudging through the swamps and overgrown areas to be a little more effort then it needs to be. Your thread keeps me ruminating on it it is a great caliber.

I would take the 375 because it's what I have and I like it.
If I had money to burn (well, I'd be hunting instead of typing) I may opt for a 338WM for moose that weighs a little less than the 375.
Good luck with your moose, whichever caliber you decide on.

WAB · Sep 4, 2018

BeeMaa said:
In NW Wyoning the bears know a rifle shot means a game animal is down, and they move in to "bump" the hunter off the kill.
One more reason to have an extra set of eyes (me) looking around as my wife dresses the game.

The weight of my 375 is a bit heavy I have to admit, but I've never had a problem lugging it all day.
After the first couple of days I'm used to it, but I believe I understand your point.
Heavy gun should be used for heavy game...right?

I lived in WY before moving to Alaska. What a great state! I know what u mean about those bear. Remember the 3 S’s of a bear encounter.

PHOENIX PHIL · Sep 4, 2018

BeeMaa said:
If I go, my bride goes.
She's tougher than most, and a pretty damn good shot with her 270 WIN.
Example...rode 13 hours in the rain, in a motorcycle sidecar, got out at the hotel...dripping wet asked if the pool was open.
Great woman with a sense of humor and love for the outdoors.
She's earned her stripes and goes where I go, no questions.

Fair enough. My wife is a fair trooper too, but I'm not sure I'd take her to a Russian bear hunt camp. The typical thing I read about those camps is at best fair and usually it doesn't seem that good. Even to someone used to typical tent camping. But to each his own.

Personally if it were me, I'd tell it's back to Africa in 2020 or whenever for a buff or ele hunt.

BeeMaa · Sep 4, 2018

WAB said:
I lived in WY before moving to Alaska. What a great state! I know what u mean about those bear. Remember the 3 S’s of a bear encounter.

Oh yeah, it's "S"ound like a "S"issy as I "S"@#$% my pants and run away.

LivingTheDream · Sep 4, 2018

No one mentioned Polar Bear? I just saw a hunt advertised the other day for one. If she doesn't mind the cold...there is also muskox as well.

Tom Leoni · Sep 4, 2018

As a fellow .375'er, the New Zealand red stag is definitely on my list. The animal is impressive, the hunting is challenging, the prices are decent and the place is undoubtedly somewhere I'd take a special lady.

A similarly-spectacular animal can be found in Argentina (where if you also take a shotgun you'll feel like a kid in a candy-store). Ditto in Eastern Europe, where there are also a host of other antelopes like the fallow deer, plus bear and hog in abundance.

If you want to go really exotic, but still keep things moderate in prices, an argali hunt in the Gobi Desert will give you bragging rights about having been in places only mentioned on Jeopardy!, plus a truly impressive trophy sheep.

Finland and the Baltic states have moose that is not as wild to reach or expensive to hunt as its Alaskan or Canadian counterpart. I highly recommend visiting the Nordic countries, and stopping in Tallin for a wonderful old-world experience.

And of course, the low-hanging fruit: have you already completed the African spiral-horn grand slam, even without the must-be-a-millionaire-to-hunt bongo?

Just a few ideas that won't break the bank--since you're a traveling duo.

WAB · Sep 4, 2018

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Tom Leoni said:
As a fellow .375'er, the New Zealand red stag is definitely on my list. The animal is impressive, the hunting is challenging, the prices are decent and the place is undoubtedly somewhere I'd take a special lady.

A similarly-spectacular animal can be found in Argentina (where if you also take a shotgun you'll feel like a kid in a candy-store). Ditto in Eastern Europe, where there are also a host of other antelopes like the fallow deer, plus bear and hog in abundance.

If you want to go really exotic, but still keep things moderate in prices, an argali hunt in the Gobi Desert will give you bragging rights about having been in places only mentioned on Jeopardy!, plus a truly impressive trophy sheep.

Finland and the Baltic states have moose that is not as wild to reach or expensive to hunt as its Alaskan or Canadian counterpart. I highly recommend visiting the Nordic countries, and stopping in Tallin for a wonderful old-world experience.

And of course, the low-hanging fruit: have you already completed the African spiral-horn grand slam, even without the must-be-a-millionaire-to-hunt bongo?

Just a few ideas that won't break the bank--since you're a traveling duo.

Tom, what is the rifle in your Avatar? Bill

Tom Leoni · Sep 4, 2018

Hi, Bill--it's a 1925 .375 Flanged Magnum single-shot falling block built on a 1902 Webley action. It came scoped (done after WW2) with a fixed-power 6x42 Zeiss Diatal in claw-mounts. As a rifle, it is a "minor celebrity" for having been described and mentioned by serial number in the book The British Single-Shot Rifle, Volume V. According to the original H&H records, it was made for a gent who was on his way to the Himalayas (perhaps after thar? the mind wonders!).

It even does slightly better than this with my own home-brewed loads (68gr RL 15, 270gr Speer BTSp)--I can generally put three shots into a cloverleaf. I really, REALLY lucked out with this gun. It's the sort of thing you wake up on a cold, rainy, boring work-day, you think about this rifle and you get up with a spring in your step.

WAB · Sep 4, 2018

Tom Leoni said:
Hi, Bill--it's a 1925 .375 Flanged Magnum falling block built on a 1902 Webley action. It came scoped (done after WW2) with a fixed-power 6x Zeiss in claw-mounts. As a rifle, it is a "minor celebrity" for having been described and mentioned by serial number in the book The British Single-Shot Rifle, Volume V. According to the original H&H records, it was made for a gent who was on his way to the Himalayas (perhaps after thar? the mind wonders!).

It even does slightly better than this with my own home-brewed loads (68gr RL 15, 270gr Speer BTSp)--I can generally put three shots into a cloverleaf. I really, REALLY lucked out with this gun. It's the sort of thing you wake up on a cold, rainy, boring work-day, you think about this rifle and you get up with a spring in your step.

WOW! That is a special rifle. I want to hear the story over a good glass of scotch one of these days!

Tom Leoni · Sep 4, 2018

You bet! And I mean it!

mdwest · Sep 4, 2018

Argentinian buffalo is on my personal short list for a non-Africa .375 hunt....

A reasonably affordable hunt.. in a place thats pretty easy to get to, and pretty inexpensive to get to (by comparison with most European/African/Asian destinations) from anywhere in the US..

And I dig the funky horns on them..

Ray B · Sep 5, 2018

I'd go for Ibex in Kyzerkistan or what ever former USSR- although I understand it's difficult to take your own rifle.

BeeMaa · Sep 5, 2018

LivingTheDream said:
No one mentioned Polar Bear? I just saw a hunt advertised the other day for one. If she doesn't mind the cold...there is also muskox as well.

She doesn't mind the cold and neither do I, so it would be an excellent choice.
Except for the fact that you can no longer import the skin back into the US...which sucks, but it's still a contender.

Tom Leoni said:
As a fellow .375'er, the New Zealand red stag is definitely on my list.

A similarly-spectacular animal can be found in Argentina.

Eastern Europe, where there are also a host of other antelopes like the fallow deer, plus bear and hog in abundance.

Argali hunt in the Gobi Desert, plus a truly impressive trophy sheep.

Finland and the Baltic states have moose.

I highly recommend visiting the Nordic countries, and stopping in Tallin for a wonderful old-world experience.

And of course, the low-hanging fruit: African spiral-horn grand slam, even without the must-be-a-millionaire-to-hunt bongo?

Tom - You've given me quite the list and I assure you I will research them all.
Thank you very much and I too would enjoy a wee dram with a look at that rifle.

mdwest said:
Argentinian buffalo is on my personal short list for a non-Africa .375 hunt....
And I dig the funky horns on them..

I dig the funky horns too.
Next year I hope to have some funky Black Wildebeest on the wall.
Argentina makes the list for Red Stag, Asian Buffalo and the bird hunting.
Definitely a place high on the list.
Thanks mdwest.

Ray B said:
I'd go for Ibex in Kyzerkistan or what ever former USSR- although I understand it's difficult to take your own rifle.

I will need to look more closely into this, although I'm not sure about the rifle thing either.
Thank you for the idea.

Shootist43 · Sep 5, 2018

New Zealand or Australia, and Water Buffalo & Red Stag. I'm actually thinking about doing that myself with either my 404 Jeffery or a 375 H&H.

JPbowhunter · Sep 5, 2018

Shootist43 said:
New Zealand or Australia, and Water Buffalo & Red Stag. I'm actually thinking about doing that myself with either my 404 Jeffery or a 375 H&H.

Poor old red won't put up much of a fight to those cannons!

BeeMaa · Sep 6, 2018

JPbowhunter said:
Poor old red won't put up much of a fight to those cannons!

It is my understanding that Argentina Red Stag weigh around 400-500# (200-225 KG).
I don't think the 375 is out of bounds for an animal of that size.
Besides, I'm getting too old to be tracking game anymore.
Have a friend who started using his 375 on whitetail and hasn't tracked a deer since, dead where they were shot.
Looses some meat, but here in Virginia deer are a nuisance and Fish & Game is happy to have you take more.

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