375 Ruger vs 375 HH

It also is taking market away from the 338 win mag
 
I agree a lot with what @Shawn.54 had to say about the .375 Ruger bringing a rifle of that power to the masses. I'm not someone that can currently afford to drop a lot on a rifle by itself, which I would with the .375 H&H. But thanks to the .375 Ruger and Savage, I can have a brand new 116 Alaskan Brush delivered to my LGS for $100 less than the cheapest .375 H&H I can find.

And as I've stated previously, Hornady isn't the only show in town anymore for ammo. Nosler and Swift are both making ammo for the .375 Ruger as well.
 
From what I can find on the net both swift and Nosler make their own brass.
But that was a quick search not to trusted 100%.
Shawn
 
JakeH said:
I agree a lot with what @Shawn.54 had to say about the .375 Ruger bringing a rifle of that power to the masses. I'm not someone that can currently afford to drop a lot on a rifle by itself, which I would with the .375 H&H. But thanks to the .375 Ruger and Savage, I can have a brand new 116 Alaskan Brush delivered to my LGS for $100 less than the cheapest .375 H&H I can find.

And as I've stated previously, Hornady isn't the only show in town anymore for ammo. Nosler and Swift are both making ammo for the .375 Ruger as well.
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That 116 Brush is a great rifle. I've been think about grabbing one as well with what the prices are now.

Even Mossberg has their Patriot rifle in 375 Ruger for sub $350. Would you take this on a hunt of a lifetime? Maybe not, but still a personal call. However, what it does do well is it allows shooters to enter the medium/big bore arena much more affordably than trying to jump on the H&H train.
 
Is Nosler chambering any of their rifles to 375 ruger?
 
lwaters said:
Is Nosler chambering any of their rifles to 375 ruger?
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I don't believe so, at least yet. The manufacturers Ive seen the 375 Ruger clambering offered in on their rifles are: Ruger, Savage, Howa, Mossberg, and Montana Rifle Company.
 
I have the Patriot in 375 Ruger with the plastic stock it feeds great and if I do my part will print cloverleaf groups.
Price out the door with taxes and backround check was $375.25 had intended to get a Boyd's stock for it but after I shoot it a while I'm not messing with it. I ordered a second magazine for a spare and it did give me feed issues the last cartridge out would jump out of the action so I opened them both the defective magazine had about 3 times as much spring inside so I trimmed it to match the original and it works perfectly.
Shawn
 
Michael Dean said:
The 375 Ruger will fade in time, sooner rather than later. The only one loading for the cartridge other than custom loads is Hornady and their penchant for quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Creedmoore is an out and out total success story, the 375 Ruger will prove to be a bitter disappointment. It offers nothing over the 375 H&H and on paper the 375 H&H is superior. At the end of the day, all you have to do is walk into any good sized sports shop and stop by the ammunition section. You will find an array of 375 H&H cartridges from a half dozen manufacturers. If they carry the 375 Ruger, the only offering will be Hornady, something I wouldn't waste my money on.
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I am not saying the 375 H&H will be replaced by the 375 Ruger, but look what happen to the 300 H&H when the 300 Win Mag came along. I think there is room for more than one 375 and I think the growing popularity of the Ruger version means it will be sticky around. When Ruger came out with their 375, it was to give H&H performance from a rifle with a 20 inch barrel and at a cost a lot lower than the expensive magnums. Mission accomplished! The 23 inch barrel rocks too. BTW, you are incorrect when you say Hornady is the only game in town for factory ammo. Swift ammo is now available.

I will say this: The Ruger 300 RCM and 338 RCM are dying or dead.
 
Michael Dean said:
There's one factor that decides the issue for me; the simple fact that you have to depend on Hornady for ammunition is a deal breaker in my book. There are many great ammunition manufacturers that make and supply ammo for the 375 H&H. Hornady is your one and only choice for the 375 Ruger.

For me personally, I reload and can use any bullet manufacturer I want. That being said, if I'm in a bind and have to rely on purchased ammunition, Hornady is the last choice in my book.
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If you are going on a DG hunt you are most likely going to reload or invest,as I did, in custom loaded ammo. I use Safari Arms and have done well with them. I am not a history buff. I love Ruger and that is what decided it for me.
Regards,
Philip
 
BC.Pat said:
If the 375 Ruger is around in a hundred years ill consider it :whistle:;)
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That's like saying if computers are still used 100 years from now then I'll get one!
 
I own a 375 ruger and although I cannot afford a trip to Africa, I use it here in Texas at my families place in the Hill Country on hogs and love it. I am not rich, left handed and the gun is rock solid as a commoners gun for me.

With every liberal condemning hunting, we need more people who cannot afford expensive guns to join the sport. For me, the Ruger opened up the opportunity for me to use a left handed larger caliber gun without breaking the bank.

It has it place in hunting and we should not shun it because it not a H&H "100 year" gun or caliber.
 
lwaters said:
It also is taking market away from the 338 win mag
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lwaters: I think you make a good point. I think many Alaskans toting a 300 WM or 338 WM would love to have a 375 for good bear medicine, but don't want to fork out the cost to get a H&H. The 375 Ruger gives them another option.

I read this several years ago on ChuckHawks.com:

An interesting survey of the most popular hunting cartridges in use in south/central Alaska was published by the Alaska Department of Fish and Game back in 2000. Very large animals, such as moose and the great bears are hunted here, as well as deer, goats, black bear and caribou, and the Alaskan list reflects this.

The number in parenthesis is the percentage of hunters using each caliber. Note the abrupt fall off in popularity after the .30-06, .300 Win. Mag. and .338 Win. Mag.

ALASKA TOP TEN CARTRIDGES (Alaska Dept. of Fish and Game survey, 2000)
http://www.chuckhawks.com/best_selling_rifle_cartridges.htm
  1. .30-06 (20.9%)
  2. .300 Win. Mag. (18.5%)
  3. .338 Win. Mag. (18.4%)
  4. 7mm Rem. Mag. (8.5%)
  5. .375 H&H Mag. (6.3%)
  6. .270 Win. (5.8%)
  7. .308 Win. (3.5%)
  8. .300 Wby. Mag. (3.5%)
  9. .45-70 Gov. (1.4%)
  10. .280 Rem. (1.1%)
 
Michael Dean said:
The 375 Ruger will fade in time, sooner rather than later. The only one loading for the cartridge other than custom loads is Hornady and their penchant for quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Creedmoore is an out and out total success story, the 375 Ruger will prove to be a bitter disappointment. It offers nothing over the 375 H&H and on paper the 375 H&H is superior. At the end of the day, all you have to do is walk into any good sized sports shop and stop by the ammunition section. You will find an array of 375 H&H cartridges from a half dozen manufacturers. If they carry the 375 Ruger, the only offering will be Hornady, something I wouldn't waste my money on.
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Any manufacturer attempting to challenge the history and nostalgia of the .375 h&h will have a difficult time , I myself would definitely not attempt to knock the .375 h&h , it is one of my favorite calibers , however I am not sure if you reload or not ?

I attended an advanced reloading course recently here in South Africa , hosted by one of the most knowledgeable reloaders in SA , who has published books that have been distributed world wide . In this course he commented on how in his opinion the .375 Ruger case was superior to the h&h .

My point is that I do not agree with you that the .375 Ruger will fade in time , I anticipate it growing in time . A point here is that if it has no future a company like Swift Bullets would not be manufacturing ammo for the .375 Ruger now.
 
lwaters said:
It also is taking market away from the 338 win mag
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I don't agree with that , they are completely different calibers , I do however think that the .338 WM is more versatile in Alaska than the .375 (either of them ) , the 338 WM can do pretty much the same as the 375 and more at further distances .

but that is a different topic and thread altogether .
 
A few months before this post came to be I went looking at 375's for giraffe hunting. The 375 Ruger hadn't even been around five years and I think was still only chambered for the Ruger M77 and Hornady ammo but it wasn't fading away like other new cartridges. Add to that, it came in a left handed version (Ruger definitely knew that would help sell it) and I took the leap to it. It's now breaking ten years old, chambered in multiple rifles and factory ammo is made by three companies. So, I don't think it's going to overtake the 375 H&H but it's not going to leave either.
As for nostalgia, it's gaining that slowly but surely by its users. Just like the 30-06 did that Roosevelt used in Africa only three years after it's creation, or the Weatherby rifles and rounds Roy Weatherby took to Africa or even the 458 Win Mag and Lott rounds that aren't old by any means.
 
Being a left handed shooter I love the Ruger #1 and have always wanted one in 35 Whelen but a LH Ruger Guide Gun in 375 Ruger makes me go Hmmm. Now that Hornady loads a 250 gn GMX, Nosler loads a 260 gn Accubond and Swift loads a 300 gn A-Frame, so quality factory ammo is available for all my hunting needs.

I could get a LH CZ in 375 H&H for $2000 or I could buy the Guide Gun, DG scope and 3 boxes of ammo for the same price.
 
I don't own a .375 yet - but when I do, pretty sure it will be the Ruger

I have hunted my whole life with standard action rifles - the exception, a .300 H&H and a .300 Weatherby (both were fine rifles) but by force of habit I short stroked each of them in a hunting situation. For me,that alone would tip the tables in favor of the Ruger, especially considering the ballistics are nearly identical
 
Kind of six of one half-dozen of the other if you are building a rifle. Off the rack rifles in .375 Ruger tend to do what a H&H can do with a 2" to 4" shorter barrel in a 1-3 lb lighter rifle with, on average, .3 to .5 grain more powder. Translation; they kick. I've shot a guide gun in .375 Ruger dozens of times both with and without the brake and own a Winchester Model 70 in .375 H&H so you know where I stand. They are both good rounds, it's just what you want/prefer.
 
Gert Odendaal said:
GuttormG, you are correct, but the 8x68S brass can be fire formed to the .375 Ruger and visa versa ...(y)(y)
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Only half correct. The 375Ruger brass can not be formed into 8X68 brass. To short.

Now this brings up my next point The H&H case and magazine length allow you to use the 350 grain 375 bullets without reducing the powder space available for usable powder. Not so with the 375 Ruger. The H&H case allows you to use the mono metal bullets without reducing the amount of usable powder space as much as the Ruger. So for some hand loading aspects the Ruger is not a good choice.

For the above reasons the H&H case is a more user friendly case. However the Ruger is in the lead as far as the race to the bottom of rifle quality goes. That is manufacturers are cutting as many cost from their products as possible. So a shorter action is cheaper than a longer action and other quality of rifles are diminishing. In this regard the Ruger is leading in the Race to the Bottom and for this reason alone the 375 Ruger will stay and eventually dominate the 375 market.

Just my 2 bobs worth.
 
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