On last day in office Obama bans lead bullets and sinkers on Fed land

Bhfs300 said:

I wish I lived in Alaska and got all the perks of being there. My kids getting free college in state Etc.


I am part of the southern 48 states!

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Hi again Bhfs300,

Sign me up for "all the perks" because I fear that I've missed the boat on pretty much "all the perks" here (for about 35 years now.)
I have however received an oil dividend each year that fluctuates with the world market.
So it's averaged around I think $1,200. per year ?
If I could afford to hunt Africa every year, (which I definitely can't afford), that means I could have taken an extra zebra each time.
Woah daddy, I mean jump back jack, that really would've been livin' large on safari.
No wait, it costs me more to fly to Africa than lower 48 residents, not to
mention the high cost of a house, groceries, medicine, you name it here, so, no extra zebras for me after all - dang!

Free tuition ?
My wife is a life-long Alaskan and earned her under grad degree here but definitely had to pay tuition.
Perhaps there's a reduced tuition for residents?
That could be so but to my knowledge, tuition is definitely not free here.
She had to buy her books as well and brother were they boring - LOL.

That being said, Alaska has no medical school nor law school.
She had to wait until we both were able to retire from our careers then, apply
to lower 48 schools, finally being accepted and then earning her Juris Doctor/Law Degree (Minnesota.)
She racked up $175,000. student
loan debt.
This does not count what we shucked out for 3 years of housing there in Soviet Minnesota. (our house in Anchorage was paid off), the cost of moving across a continent and back.

Furthermore, today's Alaskan cost of living in general is more expensive than much of the USA is, especially compared to the "heart land" and most of the South.
Move to Alaska, I did but if you do so believing you will be money ahead, you going to be quite disappointed if not shocked when you get here.

My best,
Velo Dog.

Bhfs300 said:

Yes!!
This thread is about LEAD.
Not President Obama.
It is about Dan Ashe and the use of lead rifle and pistol ammunition.
Do you think at a small percent, one shell for every ten shot from a shot gun?
But it started in 1991 with your PEOPLE passing a law about lead shot in bird hunting!
So let's work on either getting this changed so it isn't going to cost us more for each bullet we shoot or stopping it all together.
How about pushing it against DAN!

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Remember one thing. If the Democrats had their way, none of us would own any guns or ammo.

Some people never learned a basic fact of life. Nothing is free, someone had to pay for it.

Velo Dog said:

Hi again Bhfs300,

Sign me up for "all the perks" because I fear that I've missed the boat on pretty much "all the perks" here (for about 35 years now.)
I have however received an oil dividend each year that fluctuates with the world market.
So it's averaged around I think $1,200. per year ?
If I could afford to hunt Africa every year, (which I definitely can't afford), that means I could have taken an extra zebra each time.
Woah daddy, I mean jump back jack, that really would've been livin' large on safari.
No wait, it costs me more to fly to Africa than lower 48 residents, not to
mention the high cost of a house, groceries, medicine, you name it here, so, no extra zebras for me after all - dang!

Free tuition ?
My wife is a life-long Alaskan and earned her under grad degree here but definitely had to pay tuition.
Perhaps there's a reduced tuition for residents?
That could be so but to my knowledge, tuition is definitely not free here.
She had to buy her books as well and brother were they boring - LOL.

That being said, Alaska has no medical school nor law school.
She had to wait until we both were able to retire from our careers then, apply
to lower 48 schools, finally being accepted and then earning her Juris Doctor/Law Degree (Minnesota.)
She racked up $175,000. student
loan debt.
This does not count what we shucked out for 3 years of housing there in Soviet Minnesota. (our house in Anchorage was paid off), the cost of moving across a continent and back.

Furthermore, today's Alaskan cost of living in general is more expensive than much of the USA is, especially compared to the "heart land" and most of the South.
Move to Alaska, I did but if you do so believing you will be money ahead, you going to be quite disappointed if not shocked when you get here.

My best,
Velo Dog.

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Let's play the reading game:

MAY 22 2015

Advantages and Disadvantages of Living in Alaska
Alaska is a great place to call home, but living in the happiest place in the country comes at a price. What some view as a hardship, others may view as a welcomed challenge. It’s all a matter of perspective.



There is still a place in the world where you can get away from it all and be at one with nature. A place where you can live off the land, but only if you choose to do so. A place where people will still stop to help you on the side of the road, it’s called Alaska.
There is an old saying about people moving to Alaska, they are either running from something or to something! In many cases, this is true. For the first time in 26 years Alaska’s population has dropped. According to an estimate from the Alaska Department of Labor 61 fewer people are living in Alaska than there were last year. While this is not a mass exodus it got me thinking about the advantages and disadvantages of living in Alaska.

Advantages

• Nature: This one has to be first on the list. It is beautiful up here and no matter where in Alaska you live, you are always close to nature. Many of the advantages are all related to the to nature.
• Fishing: Alaska takes fishing to a whole new level. There are not too many places in the world where the average person can catch enough fish to feed their family for a year.
• Hunting: Another blessing from Mother Nature is access to great hunting. Many of the best hunting areas in the Lower 48 are on private property, but Alaska is the exact opposite. If you are new to the sport of hunting, the difficulty levels range from beginner to extreme. The real reward is being able to feed your family wild organic game that you harvested yourself.
• Taxes: Alaska is a very tax friendly state, there are no state sales or income taxes! (Some of the cities in Alaska have a sales tax though.)
• The PFD: The Permanent Fund Dividend is not to be confused with a floatation device. It is a little chunk of money that gets directly deposited into your checking account every October. The money comes from investments made with the state’s oil revenues. The 2014 PFD was $1884 per person (even babies), do the math if you have a large family.
• Business Friendly: If you are an entrepreneur, Alaska is a very business friendly state. Thanks to the internet you can form a LLC, get a Alaska Business License, and an EIN number from the comfort of your home in the same amount of time that it takes to watch one episode of Northern Exposure. There are also some truly amazing small business loan programs. It is still the land of opportunity.
• Sense of Community: In towns like Seward, the small town feeling is alive and well. I imagine there is a slight resemblance of this mentality in Anchorage and the Mat-Su Valley. Despite the massive size of Alaska it is still a very small community, it is not unusual to run into someone you know at the airport.
• Healthy Job Market: If you are hard-working, honest, and can keep your nose clean there is a job for you in Alaska. You might need to work a few seasonal or temporary jobs but if you are willing and able to work, come to Alaska.
  
  
  
  Photo courtesy of ALEXsys
• Screw The Joneses: Who cares if your neighbor just bought a new truck! Your 30-year-old truck is a trusted friend and you won’t be looked down upon for driving her.
• Starting From Scratch: Do you need to hit the reset button in your life? Aside from a nice tropical destination, Alaska is a great place to start over.
• The People: You will meet the most amazing people in Alaska. In the not too distant past, Alaska was the wild west frontier. If you have the opportunity to sit down with someone who has lived here for 30-50+ years you will hear a few great tales. We really enjoy spending time with our friends Yvon and Janet Van Driessche, they are long time Alaskan’s and have amazing stories. You can visit them at their Creperie and Bed and Breakfast.
  
  
  
  The most amazing crepes, this side of Europe!
• Healthy Living: There are few places left in the world where you can easily fill your freezer with fish and wild game, Alaska’s proteins are some of the healthiest around. You will not find our moose and caribou feeding on GMO crops or drinking contaminated water out of a drainage ditch. The summer gardening season is short but robust. Head to the hills in late summer and pick berries, Alaskan blueberries are super high in antioxidants. If you plant a garden and properly preserve your crops you can greatly supplement your diet with homegrown veggies.
• Help When You Need It: Alaskans respect the roads and the weather. If you are in the middle of nowhere and your vehicle breaks down, people will stop and help you. Helping a stranger is a rather novel concept that tends to get lost as populations increase.

Sorry you or your wife wanted a DR/Law degre.

Brent in Az said:

Remember one thing. If the Democrats had their way, none of us would own any guns or ammo.

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This all started in 1991 and it wasn't the Democtats that were in office at that time.

Bhfs300 said:

This all started in 1991 and it wasn't the Democtats that were in office at that time.

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Really? None? All Repbulicans??

Crapola! Gun grabbers have always been predominantly Democrat.

Brent in Az said:

Crapola! Gun grabbers have always been predominantly Democrat.

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All politicians are crooks IMO.
Nonetheless, I've never noticed a Republican try to violate anyone's 2nd Amendment Rights, as long as I can remember (and I'm practically a mummy.)
Conversely, since my early teens I've definitely seen what amounts to a constant effort by various Democrats to infringe on the people's right to keep and bear arms.

There is little arguable question that Demonrats are more apt to want to further restrict gun ownership, none really. And while its true that Bush Sr. was president in '91 he had Congress to deal with and they were not all Republicans.

Bhfs300 said:

I hope your numbers are good because this looks like about a $15,000 a person and if you are wrong it could be $150 thousand each people as people start to think he has a problem.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky, said Congress will follow through on Trump's border wall order, and McConnell estimated it will cost $15 billion at most — he cited a range of $12 billion to $15 billion.1 day ago

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The federal budget of the US (government) is 3.8 trillion (that's 3800 billion) for the 2015 fiscal year.
Source:
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

While 15 billion seems like a lot of money for an individual its really not a lot of money for the US government. Plus those costs wouldn't be covered over the course of 1 year but probably over several...

For referece the Iraq War has cost the US 1-2 trillion so far, depending on the estimate and I guess what they count as expenses related to this war. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-war-anniversary-idUSBRE92D0PG20130314

I don't know about you, but building a wall and tackling an invasion of people illegally entering the US is a much higher priority and money a lot better spent than fighting a war in some country half the world away from the US. Kind of a charity starts at home deal... Plus this money has arguably been wasted, given the state of Iraq now, where as a wall is pretty sound investment- yes you have to maintain it but you certainly aren't building a new wall every year...

Well, maybe

Dragan N. said:

The federal budget of the US (government) is 3.8 trillion (that's 3800 billion) for the 2015 fiscal year.
Source:
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

While 15 billion seems like a lot of money for an individual its really not a lot of money for the US government. Plus those costs wouldn't be covered over the course of 1 year but probably over several...

For referece the Iraq War has cost the US 1-2 trillion so far, depending on the estimate and I guess what they count as expenses related to this war. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-war-anniversary-idUSBRE92D0PG20130314

I don't know about you, but building a wall and tackling an invasion of people illegally entering the US is a much higher priority and money a lot better spent than fighting a war in some country half the world away from the US. Kind of a charity starts at home deal... Plus this money has arguably been wasted, given the state of Iraq now, where as a wall is pretty sound investment- yes you have to maintain it but you certainly aren't building a new wall every year...

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the left over funds from "fast and furious" could help with building it. Then again, the wall could be basically free. We just have to collect all the bricks the Democrats shit when they realized that O'bamClinton lost. Regardless, the wall is cheaper than fighting a war on our own soil.

You could run those bricks end to end and circle the earth 3 times!!

Well one gents, don't worry Trump's pick for Sec of Interior is "an avid hunter, and Navy Seal", he was raised in the west, and will shut this BS exec order down, if Trump doesn't do it first.

Bhfs300 said:

Let's play the reading game:

MAY 22 2015

Advantages and Disadvantages of Living in Alaska
Alaska is a great place to call home, but living in the happiest place in the country comes at a price. What some view as a hardship, others may view as a welcomed challenge. It’s all a matter of perspective.



There is still a place in the world where you can get away from it all and be at one with nature. A place where you can live off the land, but only if you choose to do so. A place where people will still stop to help you on the side of the road, it’s called Alaska.
There is an old saying about people moving to Alaska, they are either running from something or to something! In many cases, this is true. For the first time in 26 years Alaska’s population has dropped. According to an estimate from the Alaska Department of Labor 61 fewer people are living in Alaska than there were last year. While this is not a mass exodus it got me thinking about the advantages and disadvantages of living in Alaska.

Advantages

• Nature: This one has to be first on the list. It is beautiful up here and no matter where in Alaska you live, you are always close to nature. Many of the advantages are all related to the to nature.
• Fishing: Alaska takes fishing to a whole new level. There are not too many places in the world where the average person can catch enough fish to feed their family for a year.
• Hunting: Another blessing from Mother Nature is access to great hunting. Many of the best hunting areas in the Lower 48 are on private property, but Alaska is the exact opposite. If you are new to the sport of hunting, the difficulty levels range from beginner to extreme. The real reward is being able to feed your family wild organic game that you harvested yourself.
• Taxes: Alaska is a very tax friendly state, there are no state sales or income taxes! (Some of the cities in Alaska have a sales tax though.)
• The PFD: The Permanent Fund Dividend is not to be confused with a floatation device. It is a little chunk of money that gets directly deposited into your checking account every October. The money comes from investments made with the state’s oil revenues. The 2014 PFD was $1884 per person (even babies), do the math if you have a large family.
• Business Friendly: If you are an entrepreneur, Alaska is a very business friendly state. Thanks to the internet you can form a LLC, get a Alaska Business License, and an EIN number from the comfort of your home in the same amount of time that it takes to watch one episode of Northern Exposure. There are also some truly amazing small business loan programs. It is still the land of opportunity.
• Sense of Community: In towns like Seward, the small town feeling is alive and well. I imagine there is a slight resemblance of this mentality in Anchorage and the Mat-Su Valley. Despite the massive size of Alaska it is still a very small community, it is not unusual to run into someone you know at the airport.
• Healthy Job Market: If you are hard-working, honest, and can keep your nose clean there is a job for you in Alaska. You might need to work a few seasonal or temporary jobs but if you are willing and able to work, come to Alaska.
  
  
  
  Photo courtesy of ALEXsys
• Screw The Joneses: Who cares if your neighbor just bought a new truck! Your 30-year-old truck is a trusted friend and you won’t be looked down upon for driving her.
• Starting From Scratch: Do you need to hit the reset button in your life? Aside from a nice tropical destination, Alaska is a great place to start over.
• The People: You will meet the most amazing people in Alaska. In the not too distant past, Alaska was the wild west frontier. If you have the opportunity to sit down with someone who has lived here for 30-50+ years you will hear a few great tales. We really enjoy spending time with our friends Yvon and Janet Van Driessche, they are long time Alaskan’s and have amazing stories. You can visit them at their Creperie and Bed and Breakfast.
  
  
  
  The most amazing crepes, this side of Europe!
• Healthy Living: There are few places left in the world where you can easily fill your freezer with fish and wild game, Alaska’s proteins are some of the healthiest around. You will not find our moose and caribou feeding on GMO crops or drinking contaminated water out of a drainage ditch. The summer gardening season is short but robust. Head to the hills in late summer and pick berries, Alaskan blueberries are super high in antioxidants. If you plant a garden and properly preserve your crops you can greatly supplement your diet with homegrown veggies.
• Help When You Need It: Alaskans respect the roads and the weather. If you are in the middle of nowhere and your vehicle breaks down, people will stop and help you. Helping a stranger is a rather novel concept that tends to get lost as populations increase.

Sorry you or your wife wanted a DR/Law degre.

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Hiho Bhfs300,

Well your posted article describing a veritable paradise up here in Alaska turned out to be a great read for me.
I enjoyed it, made me want to move to such a dreamy Utopia.
(So, did I win the reading game?)
Either way, 2014 was indeed a great year for the Dividend payout.
Wish they were $1,800. every year.

Alaska is "very tax friendly" ?
I pay a bit over $600. a month here in property tax alone.
One might think that with so much crude oil here, it'd be cheap to fuel-up with gasoline or diesel, ha! Quite the opposite.
As I mentioned previously, Anchorage (where I live) suffers a very high cost of living, because goods and services in general, plus real estate prices as well are all high, compared to much of the USA.

Fresh vegetables, fruit and dairy products in particular are very expensive here, as most of our food must be shipped in from outside Alaska's borders.
Most all produce, except part of the cabbages, carrots and potatoes we consume here, is barged in or trucked in, because there's only a small area of fertile soil here where those three are grown (very small total crop.)
This local root crop is not even adequate to feed what relatively few Alaskans there are.
So, even those 3 are imported and expensive.
(Neither can we get vine ripened or tree ripened anything here - LOL).

"Easily fill your freezer with fish and wild game"?
The author's definition of "easily" and mine are in stark disagreement.
Hunting or fishing here are anything but easy.
Not to mention the disproportionately high cost of hunting and fishing, in any part of this state that is actually productive for same anyway.
I used to but no longer hunt here, due to the high cost of Alaskan hunting logistics.
Barry's prohibition of lead bullets on Federal land is just more confirmation that I'm doing myself a favor by spending my hunting dollars in Africa now.

"Business friendly"?, if the author says so but, nonetheless, I'd bet that proportionally, at least as many businesses fail here as anywhere.
I'm not an entrepreneur so, I do not know for sure how friendly or not Alaska is toward them.
"Healthy job market"?, maybe if you work at MacDonald's.
People are getting laid off all over Alaska right now - good luck competing with locals in finding a job here.

You are sorry my wife earned a law degree?
The last guy who said something like that to me was married to a tubby who worked in a candy store at the Sears Mall.

Well hell, I'm doing exactly what used to annoy me about old men - rambling at length, about really nothing.

My apologies to everyone for derailing this thread.
I will clam up now.
Velo Dog.

PS:
Speaking of clams, sea food is even surprisingly expensive here.

Bhfs300 said:

And Mexico is laughing at the US at this time!!
Trump thinks he can say do this and they will but this isn't TRUMP College!
Sorry but the farther north you live on this one the better off you are

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Regarding the outcome of this year's USA election finish, I bet Mexico is doing anything but laughing.

(OK, this time I really mean it, I'm going to stop derailing this thread).

If the peso crashing is considered funny, they are laughing.

sestoppelman said:

You could run those bricks end to end and circle the earth 3 times!!

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And Donald Trump is making people shit bricks on a daily basis. We will have a never ending supply for the next 4-8 years.

The Libocrat media is producing cinder blocks at an alarming rate.

Gotta luv it!

Well proof is the guy who does it, and I cannot dispute the "real " assessment of Alaska, but there are some caveats
An Alaskan can hunt as a resident , bear, both black and brown, caribou, moose, sheep x2 , Mnt goat, musk ox, walrus ( I think) , fish rivers "teaming" with salmon, and maybe someday polar bear.
As a hunter I would say that is paradise, try living in Africa.
Any place that hold game to the degree Alaska and Africa do , is going to be expensive.
As far as hard, yes Alaska is a hard place to hunt, Africa is easier in many degrees, but not an"easy" place to hunt itself
So Velo, let's be fair old chap, Alaska is a gem that requires your sweat and tears to earn her fruit

But she is a gem, like no other

Edward Wright said:

Well proof is the guy who does it, and I cannot dispute the "real " assessment of Alaska, but there are some caveats
An Alaskan can hunt as a resident , bear, both black and brown, caribou, moose, sheep x2 , Mnt goat, musk ox, walrus ( I think) , fish rivers "teaming" with salmon, and maybe someday polar bear.
As a hunter I would say that is paradise, try living in Africa.
Any place that hold game to the degree Alaska and Africa do , is going to be expensive.
As far as hard, yes Alaska is a hard place to hunt, Africa is easier in many degrees, but not an"easy" place to hunt itself
So Velo, let's be fair old chap, Alaska is a gem that requires your sweat and tears to earn her fruit

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Aloha there Edward Wright,

So as to not rip off this thread any worse than I already have ...... I will add to my post that you obviously doubt, by saying, "Oh yeah, I forgot to include that the vast majority of hunting and fishing here is on Federal lands / waters so, pretty much state-wide we now must use non-lead bullets / non-lead fishing sinkers".

In all fareness old chap, do price the full cost of hunting and fishing in the relatively few geographic parts of Alaska that actually have abundant fish and game.
This will include the very high cost of camping gear that is light enough and compact enough to carry in a little float plane (aka "sea plane").
Your light / compact tent also will need to be sturdy enough to withstand very strong wind gusts.

That's right, you must "fly out" if you actually expect to find good hunting and fishing in Alaska.
Because, the vast majority of Alaska is nearly devoid of big game, including the majority of our remote wilderness here.
And, fish are not "teaming" in easily accessible parts of this state.
If you can drive to it, most of what you will find there are other hunters and other fishers like yourself, who don't have a few spare thousand bucks to spend on their outdoor pursuits.

OK, don't believe me, I've only lived here 35 years.
Move up here and see for yourself.
There's plenty of houses for sale here at the moment (wait til you see what they cost heh heh).

See you when you get here,
Velo Dog.

PS:
You think we can hunt walrus, that's a good one man, a real knee slapper.