308 or 300 Win Mag for Leopard

I used my .300 WM shooting 200 grain Hornady Precision Hunter ELDX bullets. It was a bang-flop situation with a dead cat under the tree. Another hunter in camp had a scope malfunction that occurred after we shot the rifles in and nearly blew the offside front leg off. Follow up was a 2 hour tracking job on hand and knee only to shoot the cat in the face with buck shot at 10 feet coming at them through a root ball. I can attest that the Hornady ammo did its job on my cat as well as about 10 other animals I shot with the same set up.

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I used my .300 WM shooting 200 grain Hornady Precision Hunter ELDX bullets. It was a bang-flop situation with a dead cat under the tree. Another hunter in camp had a scope malfunction that occurred after we shot the rifles in and nearly blew the offside front leg off. Follow up was a 2 hour tracking job on hand and knee only to shoot the cat in the face with buck shot at 10 feet coming at them through a root ball. I can attest that the Hornady ammo did its job on my cat as well as about 10 other animals I shot with the same set up.

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that seems like a great option. Accurate, reliable quick expansion and still plenty of lead to make 2 holes in the cat.


On another note,
I cannot believe how many people have commented about taxidermy and 300 win making “too big a hole..”

You want a dead cat under the tree. Your mount will be fine. Crazy talk
 
I checked with Tsala and on their private land they own it I can use my 275 Rigby
Really rooting for you on that hunt, you will have earned it

Can yall use artificial light in the area?
 
I will be shooting either 286 grain Swift A Frames or 270 grain Speer SP both in 9.3 x 62. Which is better on leopard my friends?
 
Personally, the A frame seems a little tough for the leopard. I would want something opening faster than a buffalo bullet. That SP bullet should open faster than the A frame.
 
I stand corrected!!! I have to take my Rigby HS in 9.3x62 for my leopard hunt in Moz. Even on private land I have to do this. bummer!!!
And then you owe us all an updated Rigby Community in the Field report!
 
Dear Shaw, first of all, let me say that I have not hunted a leopard, but I have hunted a lot of other animals, so I have some experience, especially with grains and calibers.
You want not to damage the skin, which is logical. If you choose a softer grain and 300wm, you will damage the skin more than you want. 308 might be a better choice. I also recommend one of the monolithic grains. Nothing lighter than 180 gr. Perhaps, for example, GMX or CX would be ideal for skin preservation. But, they are also not stop grains, so the leopard will probably leave the place of shooting.
I also tested other variants where the softest and lightest grain (for example V-Max) is used on a larger animal (where meat doesn't matter) which creates an explosion in the body and will not come out the other side. It's the best way to save the skin, but you have to hit the animal's shoulder. After this hit, the animal will no longer move from the place of the shot
The last concern I’ve ever had when shooting a leopard has been too big of an exit hole. My last two leopards were with 225 grain Bearclaws from my 338. Reasonable size exit hole but what mattered was a quickly dead cat. A Taxidermist can easily sew the hole and do it with fewer stitches than doctors would use on your hide if a wounded cat gets to you. Quarter sized exit hole to fifty cent piece sized exit hole, all good.
 
I will be shooting either 286 grain Swift A Frames or 270 grain Speer SP both in 9.3 x 62. Which is better on leopard my friends?
Either but I’d go with a softer bullet than the Swift A frame if you’re only hunting leopard. The Scirocco would be a better choice.

It’s interesting that you’ve been told 9.3 minimum for leopard in Moz. I’m thinking about shooting a buffalo there with a smaller caliber than that.
 
.300 Winchester Magnum (loaded with 200Gr Nosler Partitions or AccuBonds) is an excellent choice for leopard over bait (where legal). I’ve shot several with the .30-06 Springfield and 220Gr Remington Core Lokt.
If I.hot advice like this from Hunter-Habib I would take it. His experience and expertise can not be duplicated by anyone alive as far as I can see. He has killed a great.many cats including leopards. Some I think were man killers. I don't think you can get advice of this quality anywhere else.

I haven't taken a leopard yet.myself but this convinces me that if I make it back.to Africa to hunt a leopard I will take my .300 Win Mag with 200 grain AccuBonds. I used that combination to take plains game on my last safari. The farthest anything went after the shot was a bid waterbuck bull that took a step before rolling into the bottom of a dry river bed. Impala, bushbuck and nyala all folded up where they stood.
 
If I.hot advice like this from Hunter-Habib I would take it. His experience and expertise can not be duplicated by anyone alive as far as I can see. He has killed a great.many cats including leopards. Some I think were man killers. I don't think you can get advice of this quality anywhere else.
Ehhh, none of his photos make sense.
It’s literally different people in each one :ROFLMAO:
The Time line is off.

Story teller for sure…
I’m not sure how he has so many people falling for it.

I know there are quite a few people who are in agreement with me. Hot take lol!

I have trouble biting my tongue…
 
If I.hot advice like this from Hunter-Habib I would take it. His experience and expertise can not be duplicated by anyone alive as far as I can see. He has killed a great.many cats including leopards. Some I think were man killers. I don't think you can get advice of this quality anywhere else.

I haven't taken a leopard yet.myself but this convinces me that if I make it back.to Africa to hunt a leopard I will take my .300 Win Mag with 200 grain AccuBonds. I used that combination to take plains game on my last safari. The farthest anything went after the shot was a bid waterbuck bull that took a step before rolling into the bottom of a dry river bed. Impala, bushbuck and nyala all folded up where they stood.
I’ve queued @Hunter-Habib specifically to prepare for my safari. There is not another’s guidance I trust more. We are blessed on this forum to have someone with the experience and knowledge he owns to reach out to for help.

I will be in his debt, successful or not, for the time he’s taken to assist me.

The well of experience of those who have gone before me here that can be drawn from is without limit.
 
A dear friend of mine, Dr. Arman Sattar killed five Asiatic leopards in the 1950s & 1960s; four of which were with a .270 Winchester Model 70 Super Grade loaded with the 150Gr Winchester Super X Power Point (three livestock killers, one man eater & one for sport). Three of these were one shot kills. I’m trying to get him to join AH forums and regale us with a few of his hunting stories. He’s currently in Zambia on Safari (for elephant) and will hopefully join these forums in a month.

He lent me these photographs to share here. The largest one he shot (bottom photograph), measured a full eight feet between the pegs and weighed 183 LB.
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If he was 20 years old in that 1956 picture (and he looks older than that) then he would be 90 years old today. And he’s on an elephant safari?

Dang.
 
If he was 20 years old in that 1956 picture (and he looks older than that) then he would be 90 years old today. And he’s on an elephant safari?

Dang.
Daisy, very good. He is actually 91 years old but God bless, still of sound mind & body.

To put matters into perspective, African white hunter living legend Tony Sanchez Arino guided on elephant hunts into his 93rd year and still hunts recreationally.

These people are true inspirations in every sense of the word.
 
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Ehhh, none of his photos make sense.
It’s literally different people in each one :ROFLMAO:
The Time line is off.

Story teller for sure…
I’m not sure how he has so many people falling for it.

I know there are quite a few people who are in agreement with me. Hot take lol!

I have trouble biting my tongue…
It would also be a bit hard for someone to be on an elephant hunt in zambia at the moment... :ROFLMAO:
 
It would also be a bit hard for someone to be on an elephant hunt in zambia at the moment... :ROFLMAO:
Exactly Pete, it’s hard to keep story’s straight when they are lies.

Dr whoever is a little early to the season… like try 6 weeks lol.

If anyone wants actual leopard hunting advice they should get it from professionals like @PeteG

Not a blatant catfish. Hilarious
 
@Doug Hamilton and @Betterinthebush

Thank you both so much for your kind words of appreciation. It means a great deal.

The thing about being active on social media (including online hunting forums) is that you put yourself on a platform where you are subjected to great scrutiny by anybody hiding behind a computer screen. Even ill-mannered lowlife degenerate conspiracy theorists such as our dear delusional dchum (who has only hunted a few plains game and thinks that he's qualified to pass judgment on those who have have been hunting dangerous game for years when he was still in diapers). For the most part, I try to be very patient & civilized to these individuals. But everybody has a breaking point.

For the record:
My credentials are on my website.

I have a Wikipedia page.

I've authored an entire book on dangerous game hunting (where I basically made my entire life an open book for all my readers across the globr).

Renowned hunter & author Dr. Jorge Pinero mentioned me in his book and on his social media pages repeatedly. And nobody busts fake hunters more than he does.

Alaskan Master Guide Phil Shoemaker is a close personal friend willing to vouch for many of my hunts. As is Clint Taylor of Game Trackers Africa.

I've helped two members here plan their dream hunting trips into India to cull Nilgai & wild boar and hunt problem Gaur (@Sarg , @Green Chile
)
I've helped one member here hunt lions in the Kalahari and he directly accredits me to his success (@JD Noblin )

Knowing dchum as I've come to over the years, he will probably bring up some of my pictures now and try to argue that I'm not the same guy in all my photographs. Well, all I've got to say is that there's a feature on the internet nowadays called "Google image Search" which can identify plagiarized photographs if they have been taken from any books or anywhere else on the internet. I can tell you right now that even if anybody searches for ten years, nobody will ever find any of my photographs on the internet or on any books. Except one or two which directly refer to me by name. People develop some changes to their appearance over the years (such as weight, tan or hair style). It's called life. Something which our poor dchum doesn't seem to have.

But hey, what do I know ? I'm a phony, right ?

P.S: Just because someone goes to Zambia for an elephant hunt, doesn't mean that they will commence the hunt AS SOON AS THEY LAND.
 
A dear friend of mine, Dr. Arman Sattar killed five Asiatic leopards in the 1950s & 1960s; four of which were with a .270 Winchester Model 70 Super Grade loaded with the 150Gr Winchester Super X Power Point (three livestock killers, one man eater & one for sport). Three of these were one shot kills. I’m trying to get him to join AH forums and regale us with a few of his hunting stories. He’s currently in Zambia on Safari (for elephant) and will hopefully join these forums in a month.

He lent me these photographs to share here. The largest one he shot (bottom photograph), measured a full eight feet between the pegs and weighed 183 LB.
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This.
Caliber is the least critical componant. Leopards are thin skinned and small- boned.
That said, there are fellows that hunt Deer with a 300 Weatherby. Shoot what you are MOST comfortable, and confident with.. from 243 and up.
As is always the case...it's not the bullet...it's where you insert it.
Not to be glib, and being aware that, in the case of Leopards, the primary concern is a DRT result...
choice of caliber won't guarentee that.
The hole may be larger.. but if it's through the guts , or misses the vitals, things will still get sporty.
A Leopard properly shot with a 270 will die...with much less due diligence...than Spots poorly shot with a 375.
Best of African luck
Spike
 

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