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Russia is smart to fear NATO expansion. The last two inductions are very formidable militarily.
And both a result of Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. The most humorous part of the expansion is Putin's supposed goal to prevent the establishment of a common NATO border. The strategic genius in the Kremlin has instead created one over a thousand kilometers in length with Finland and thanks to both Finland and Sweden turned the Baltic into a NATO lake. NATO listening posts now have surveillance direct line of sight to the naval bases around Murmansk meaning a Russian nuclear submarine can't flush a toilet without NATO being aware. Must make the average regime apologist and propagandist squirm just a bit.
 
As most know Finland and Sweden are impossible to conquer. You may be able to attack it. But you would never hold it.
 
What are we blaming him for? How about giving the liberals a rallying point to shift focus away from Trudeau and costing the the conservatives a 5% lead in the polls. This election will be decided by voters who traditionally don’t vote and all they can see is a threat south of the boarder. I don’t know why that is so hard for you to wrap your head around prior to trump starting his utter foolishness the conservatives had the next election all but sewn up now thanks to him a short sighted an naive portion of the electorate that typically doesn’t vote and has no understanding of the real issues at play the liberals will win handedly.

Here is why it is hard to wrap my head around it. Is that the Canadian population is so weak and so easily influenced that a person in another country is being used to shift the blame of how terrible your government has been.

The fact you (someone I consider informed and respect) is saying Trump is to blame surprises me, but you did mention the real issue to me is a naive population which is what I was getting at.

Someone told me yesterday at work, "everything happens for a reason" and I said, "well maybe the reason is we are stupid and make bad decisions". This is about how I feel about the Canadian voting population if they vote for the same party as Trudeau and then blame Trump.
 
That is what I can’t wrap my head around why does trump get a free pass to say what ever pops in his mind at the moment when all other politicians are held accountable for their statements?

For what it is worth no politician is held accountable for their statements.
 
There is no such thing as a 0% auto loan from a dealer. They just charge you more for the vehicle. Always negotiate the cash price of a vehicle before mentioning trades or financing or payments.
Ahem, I paid a 0% loan for my girlfriend’s jeep. Price was determined when we ordered it, X below MSRP. Paying for it was arranged after the sale, options were 0% for 3 years, cash or traditional financing.

Price of the vehicle was determined way before moving to the finance guy even with my Lexus. Though, they pushed for me to finance it 100% and take it home that night rather than wait 2 days for wire transfer. I told them I didn’t mind waiting. :ROFLMAO:
 
Ahem, I paid a 0% loan for my girlfriend’s jeep. Price was determined when we ordered it, X below MSRP. Paying for it was arranged after the sale, options were 0% for 3 years, cash or traditional financing.

Price of the vehicle was determined way before moving to the finance guy even with my Lexus. Though, they pushed for me to finance it 100% and take it home that night rather than wait 2 days for wire transfer. I told them I didn’t mind waiting. :ROFLMAO:
Same here. During Covid 2020, Nissan offered 0% for 7 years (I know insane), so I purchased a new 2019 4x4 Titan below MSRP (of course that can vary I guess), plus it was a previous years model, so great deals to be had, they wanted to get rid of them to make room for the 2020 year models. Back then due to Covid, you couldn’t go to the dealership so they drove the truck to me. Could’ve paid it off long ago but why? Normally, I buy used pickups but couldn’t pass this up. Too bad Toyota didn’t offer this, really wanted a Tundra but the Titan has been a good reliable rig for me.
 
My error, you are such a Russian apologist I mistakenly assumed that you must be Russian.

Riiiiight. Where have i defended the Russians?
Don't equate calling a balanced view of the situation and the warts on both sides as defending the one you don't like because I'm not willing to look at it in a pure black vs. pure white lens as it seems many are.
 
OF course Poland is relevant. The expansion to Poland took place after the alleged "promise" and was explicitly approved of by the Russian head of State, Yeltsin. Meaning that the Russian head of state approved of a specific NATO expansion that occurred after the alleged agreement not to. In legal terms we would call that waiver.

I guess your theory is that international relations involving hundreds of thousands of lives and billions upon billions of dollars should be governed by unverified and never reduced to writing promises made by people who would never have authority to bind NATO or their own country anyways. That can't end badly.

Why you seem so invested in defending a clear bogus Putin pretext for war is beyond me.

I failed to notice the bit about Poland.
In the context in which our back and forth started, Poland is irrelevant. If Putin attacked one of the 3 baltics, it would be a NATO war, not a US war. We're often viewed and expected to be the world's policeman.

If he attacked Poland, it's also a NATO war. Thus, to the topic at hand, Poland, which was not attacked or invaded, was irrelevant to the topic of IF he attacked the baltics.

Your last line really takes your argument down. It's the classic "if you don't agree with me, you're a Putin puppet" argument.
 
The main difference in perspective is who you consider the bear. The real issue the world is facing? Russia is a bear, china is another bear and now America is acting like yet a third bear.
Solong there are two female bears out of the three there will be no fighting in the cage. Who wants to be the male bear?….lol
 
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In the context in which our back and forth started, Poland is irrelevant. If Putin attacked one of the 3 baltics, it would be a NATO war, not a US war. We're often viewed and expected to be the world's policeman.

You are going to have to parse that one for me. Article 5 no longer applies to the US?
 
There is no such thing as a 0% auto loan from a dealer. They just charge you more for the vehicle. Always negotiate the cash price of a vehicle before mentioning trades or financing or payments.
Agreed, my personal finance professor in college showed us multiple 0% auto loans; every one of them were so loaded in fees that you would be better off with a 5% loan.

Get them on the hook with 0% and even if they pay off the loan in full the first year you’ve still made the financing department a load of cash over the sticker price.
 
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I just returned from Nova Scotia. I was shocked at the level of anger toward our president and the current administration. It was so intense that at church the pastor prayed for the country in the face of the trade war they have been subjected to. The attitude is almost one of a country under attack. In the face of that, they have unified behind the party in power. A horrible decision, but there it is.

Trump has no idea the impact of his words and actions have on the international stage. He is doing lasting damage to our relationships with our long time allies. Those of you who think he can do no wrong may not care, but I can assure you that this will cost us in the long term.
I think its the inpredictability of Trumps personality the world is reacting on. As I understand from the farmers who have expressed themself on YT its also the inpredictability they are worried about(tariffs)The farming community need some kind predictability as far as markeds etc. The weather they can’t do much about. And ofcouse its all the lies Trumps says and at the same time owe no insight of how the world spin nor wish to. His administration seems to be govern by Ad Hoc planning. Trump seems to believe all deals can be made with a handshake in the barndoor but clearly don’t understand(unwillingly ?) the process.
Trump had many good valid political points in his campaign but he is judged by way he treats people and ofcouse who he collaborate with( read Russia).
 
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I just returned from Nova Scotia. I was shocked at the level of anger toward our president and the current administration. It was so intense that at church the pastor prayed for the country in the face of the trade war they have been subjected to. The attitude is almost one of a country under attack. In the face of that, they have unified behind the party in power. A horrible decision, but there it is.

Trump has no idea the impact of his words and actions have on the international stage. He is doing lasting damage to our relationships with our long time allies. Those of you who think he can do no wrong may not care, but I can assure you that this will cost us in the long term.
While I don’t disagree with your statements, I will say that Canadians tend to be very emotionally sensitive and overly dramatic and have appeared that way for decades.

I remember watching CNN broadcasts back in the mid 1990’s of Canadians burning American flags in the streets as a result of fishing regulations and territorial disputes.
 
Here is why it is hard to wrap my head around it. Is that the Canadian population is so weak and so easily influenced that a person in another country is being used to shift the blame of how terrible your government has been.

The fact you (someone I consider informed and respect) is saying Trump is to blame surprises me, but you did mention the real issue to me is a naive population which is what I was getting at.

Someone told me yesterday at work, "everything happens for a reason" and I said, "well maybe the reason is we are stupid and make bad decisions". This is about how I feel about the Canadian voting population if they vote for the same party as Trudeau and then blame Trump.
You’re miss quoting me I said trump takes a share of the blame. There was absolutely no reason for him to attack Canada and yet he went out of his way to torpedo relations between the two nations.
 
While I don’t disagree with your statements, I will say that Canadians tend to be very emotionally sensitive and overly dramatic and have appeared that way for decades.

I remember watching CNN broadcasts back in the mid 1990’s of Canadians burning American flags in the streets as a result of fishing regulations and territorial disputes.
You ever watch your entire ability to make a living be stolen by foreign fleets? Canada is a very rural country outside of Quebec and Ontario when a fishery closes like the cod did in the 90s entire populations that have in some cases hundreds of years of family history are forced to move away from the only home they’ve ever known to find work. Most of those newfies ended up in car plants in Ontario for lack of any employment in Newfoundland. With fisherman it’s not just a job it’s a fundamental part of who you are, there were a sad number of those gentlemen who ended their own lives.
 
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Doesn't look good if correct.....

 
You ever watch your entire ability to make a living be stolen by foreign fleets? Canada is a very rural country outside of Quebec and Ontario when a fishery closes like the cod did in the 90s entire populations that have in some cases hundreds of years of family history are forced to move away from the only home they’ve ever known to find work. Most of those newfies ended up in car plants in Ontario for lack of any employment in Newfoundland. With fisherman it’s not just a job it’s a fundamental part of who you are, there were a sad number of those gentlemen who ended their own lives.
I understand that, and yes when you see illegal immigrants destroy industries that had sustained generations of Americans be reverted to poverty wages, yeah I get your point… but we were not burning flags in the streets.

To be honest I think having this guy…..
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in office for over 9 years did more damage to Canada than anything that Trump has done or could do.
 

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