US Fish & Wildlife Service plans to tighten the screws on hunters like never before

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This has all the potential to become a World Class NIGHTMARE.
 
Thanks for the heads up Robert.
 
Due process being "streamlined". No longer allowed to request an impartial third party review in the judicial system. :E Shocked:

Presumption of guilt.
Summary conviction.
Seizure of private property.

Absolutely amazing!


Didn't you guys have a revolution about some damn tax issue in the day!!!???

Just say'n!
 
Due process being "streamlined". No longer allowed to request an impartial third party review in the judicial system. :E Shocked:

Presumption of guilt.
Summary conviction.
Seizure of private property.

Absolutely amazing!


Didn't you guys have a revolution about some damn tax issue in the day!!!???

Just say'n!


"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." Thomas Jefferson


Twenty years ago I would never have dreamed that we would be on such a steep and slippery slope in my lifetime. I feel for our children.

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One important change is a property owner can no longer file a claim for judicial relief after a petition for remission has been filed with the Solicitor. Property owners have switched over to claims after filing petitions for remission when Solicitors have taken a year or two to render a decision, but they will no longer have that protection.

It won't take long for that to go to court if approved.

Twenty years ago I would never have dreamed that we would be on such a steep and slippery slope in my lifetime. I feel for our children.

All societies decline at some point, but man you're right, ours as been sudden and steep. Definitely a much broader issue than trophy imports.
 
Unreasonable search and seizure of our personal papers and valuable belongings / without due process of the law, as guaranteed in our Constitution ?

Welcome to The United Soviet Socialist States of America ....... "The USSSA".

(The Founding Fathers started shooting long before it got this bad.)
 
One important change is a property owner can no longer file a claim for judicial relief after a petition for remission has been filed with the Solicitor. Property owners have switched over to claims after filing petitions for remission when Solicitors have taken a year or two to render a decision, but they will no longer have that protection.

It won't take long for that to go to court if approved.



All societies decline at some point, but man you're right, ours as been sudden and steep. Definitely a much broader issue than trophy imports.
Agree Royal, the first person caught up in this BS should be the spring board all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. All of the hunting organizations need to start their war chests specifically for this purpose now, not wait until it happens!
 
This crap pisses me off. They should be helping hunters, instead they are actively hindering them. Made me mad enough to send it to my Senator and Representative. Maybe if we all passed it on and asked for some legislative help...... Frustrated to say the least. Bruce
 
agree with everything said.
 
No surprise here really. My last dealings with them left a bad taste in mouth that I haven't washed away yet! If the stupid people of this country keep voting for morons like Obama and HRC, it will only get worse until its just not doable anymore, it will become too restrictive and dangerous to even take a chance. FWS has like much of the federal govt become totally politicized and not in a good way. When you cant even trust the FBI to run a proper untainted investigation anymore for fear the sitting president will be implicated what can one expect from the lowly FWS? If HRC wins we are so toast.
And Wayne..its too late. There will not be any revolution no matter how bad it gets. Too many govt dependent drones inhabit America now, all by design.
 
It may be time for another revolution. It may be soon anyway as I see this country imploding on the track we are on now and especially if that murdering, lying bitch gets in office. Just add F&G to the list.
 
we better win this election,big time.
Don't count on it I'm afraid. I sure hope our children and their children can enjoy the sport we all love.
 
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why not?whats your thoughts on the subject?
 
why not?whats your thoughts on the subject?
I'm just afraid trump just said too much and pissed off too many independents. I for one will vote for him because I hope he can bring change to our country and restore us to the greatness we deserve. Besides I DISPISE that bitch!
 
The USFW, as well as the IRS, should be abolished.

I don't feel Trump will win this election.

This country is headed for dark times.
 
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I have a bet on this that Trump will win. My reason is simple. This is the election of the non establishment, non incumbent. Hillary though not in office has been around since the earth cooled and everybody knows her and her hands are in everything since the 80's, from Gov's wife, to First Lady, to Senator to Sec of State. All of her attempts have been failures, this is why in my view Bernie did so well, but the dems didn't want Bernie, they want the status quo, and that's HRC. Same thing on the Repuke side. They also want the status quo and a guy like Trump comes along, throws out all the rules, and upsets the applecart big time and they don't like that! What they fail to see is that some folks, I hope a majority are completely fed up with the status quo, thus a guy like Trump who cannot be blamed for any of the countries woes and ills is just what many have been waiting for, someone who isn't afraid to take it to them, all of them on both sides. In short both sides of the aisle need a serious ass-kicking from the voters! In all likelihood Bernie would be the nominee on the dem side if it weren't for the stinkfinger games the demtard big shots were playing behind the scenes trying to sabotage his campaign. Then look at all the guys Trump wiped off the primary map, quite easily in fact. My choice would have been Cruz and he was the last man standing but for Trump. All the other establishment wimp, ass clowns like Jeb, and Kasich were just the well established old guard and the voters don't want that this time, its why Trump is where he is. Now whether he can pull this off despite himself remains to be seen, but if he wins I know why. If he loses it doesn't matter, its over for the foreseeable future.
 

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