Trophy Import issues into Canada

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  1. toxic111

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    Here are my import fees:

    Courier Fees - $17.14

    Dock Fees - $19.28

    Storage Charges - $566.47

    Outport Brokerage Expense - $18.57

    Paying fee - $11.43

    Entry Set up and Release - $13.50

    Brokerage - $44.00

    Transport to Moose Jaw - $81.43

    CFIA Examination - $13.98

    GST on Brokerage - $1.62

    GST on Trophies - $3.26

    Other Fees - $150.00

    Total - $940.68
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    The storgae charges seems to be the killer here, how long was the crate in storage?
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    & here were the export fees

    irfreight - $647.43

    Plastic Container - $250.00

    Fuel and Security - $92.60

    Screening - $40.00

    Communication - $45.00

    Documentation - $85.00

    Handling Fee - $25.00

    Cartage from Grahamstown - $150.00

    Permits - $125.00

    Wire Fees - $60.00

    Total - $1,591.57 cdn
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    I don't know how many days hey were overall. I do know they arrived in Vancouver in Dec, and made Moose Jaw in January
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    Its all confusing/frustrating and seems like really nobody is sure of the rules, typical Cdn government, overreact to a small percentage issue and kick out some BS rule/law without them understanding why they did it and the impact.....:headscratch:
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    You can broker it yourself.
    If your shipment has finished trophies (tanned etc, mounted) and they are clean you will be fine.
    It takes out this mandatory disinfection crap.
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    If you listen to the speech from the department "they are protecting us".

    If they were doing there job, inspecting imports, which we pay an additional fee for anyway, they would catch the bugs.
    Inspection seems to have saved us from the nasty bugs since the beginning of time until now.
    Perhaps they have only hired incapable people recently who can't do the job.
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    Its true, there is no way Cattle infected with BSE can enter the country if trophies are shipped in plastic containers. Makes perfect sense... doesn't it???

    Typical of our alarmist society, nothing has happened in all the years the old system was in place but "what if...". People with too much time on their hands have plenty of time to come up with this type of BS and use it to justify their jobs.
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    All of this BS has actually caused me to contact my taxidermist in RSA as Brick has mentioned above and make sure i am in compliance with these new regs. All my mounts are fully finished, so i don't anticipate any problem ... except for some warthog tusks and a jackal skull. They will now be mounted on plaques instead of just bleaching so they qualify as "finished" on the advice of my shipper and taxidermist. I hope they unscrew this soon as i am booked for round two in RSA this summer and the outcome of this shipment will certainly dictate how i handle trophies this upcoming year!
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    After learning of this surprise earlier this year, of course it occurred after the hunt took place, I have contacted many of the western contacts in the department to make sure I was up on the changes. Also, in high hopes there would be a return to the old methods.
    True to form, no review but they now have a "complaint" line set up.
    "If you don't agree with this policy this is who to call."
    I just laughed.




    It actually cuts cost and reduces taxes by cutting down on the number of ticks the workers have to put on a piece of paper.
    Just two boxes now:
    A Finished trophies - release
    B Unfinished trophies - hold disinfect

    It allows them to have more time to do the important things like;
    1. Inspecting our meat at slaughter facilities. What are a few cases of E Coli are found. No big deal.
    2. Ensuring a deadly Avian Flu does not enter the country. It is not always best to be first but we have it.

    3. Keeping the border safe from BSE is a good one.
    Inside Canada is best, now that they let it in.
    4. Keeping Brucellosis in the Bison herds isolated. No one tested for that one before release I guess.




    Excuse my rant. If there were some rational reason I might be able to swallow this but,
    "there have been a lot of dirty shipments from Africa" is pure crap.
    That is what inspections are for!!!!
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    So i ask the question Brick, are tanned hides and cleaned skulls/horns classified as finished???
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    My understanding is this:
    Tanned hides are finished.

    Scrupulously clean skulls as trophies are finished.
    If there is the slightest bit of dirt or dried flesh/material on them you are bound for the disinfectant process.

    When my first shipment comes in I will be able to tell you what one inspectors interpretation is.
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    Much appreciated, keep us posted...:nailbiter:
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    Getting "disinfected"...

    When my shipment of sable antelopes (capes, skulls, horns) arrived in Vancouver they were deemed "contaminated" and sent off to Edmonton for disinfection. They were properly treated by a taxidermist in Africa and had all the necessary certificates and were shipped in the requisite plastic container...
    I have not heard anything from the facility. Hopefully the once in a lifetime trophies will not be lost or damaged! I shudder to think of the extra expenses all this will involve...
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    If they were unfinished capes, etc this fits right in with the new policy. EVERYTHING from AFRICA is deemed contaminated now.

    I do not want to see the bill. But, I do.
    Vancouver to Edmonton. For those who might not understand; Think Joburg to Cape Town.


    I wholly agree.
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    I guess I got lucky on the treatment.. never had that done..

    Shipping from Van to Ed, will depend.. it only cost me $81 to Moose Jaw from Van...

    But it is still stupid..
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    Also, I was emailing the guy I went to Africa with. He got his stuff back in October, and cost him around $900 total for shipping/export/import... Lucky SOB there.

    This has been so bad that SCI Canada has formed a panel to formal looking into things & hopefully streamline the process.
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    I'd like them to go back to the non streamline process where a professional vet would actually do an inspection and then decided if the shipment was clean or not. Those that are not, send them on for disinfection or destroy them as the owner sees fit.
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    That would be good, but you & I know that won't happen. So far everything has fallen on deaf ears. If SCI can do something to ease things to in-between before & now, and have all inspectors across Canada doing the same thing that would be good. Better than the mess right now.

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