Discussion in 'Up To .375' started by Bigkudu, Jul 10, 2011.
Which bullet is your choice for 300 WM 180 gr for plains game???
If Eland is included in your list I'd shoot whichever of the following is most accurate in your rifle: Swift A-Frames, Nosler Partitions or Barnes TSX/TTSX.
I'd add the 180gr Woodleigh to that list as well.
I'm more o less convinced that you should use Impala LS 130 gr ( 8,4 grams ).
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nosler partition, is my favorite.
I still have to go with the Accubond. I have had excellent results on all the game I've shot with the 180's including plains game and they produce excellent groups in my rifles.
Same for me.
What does your rifle like? What is your accuracy goal? Heavy or light for cal bullet?
I haven't owned just whole bunch of rifles, but I haven't had one yet that wouldn't shoot 1" groups at 100 yards or better. So that's always my goal.
So far my .300 Win Mag tends to shoot 200gr bullets better than 180 grainers. Longer bullet helps stabilize it more? Slower velocity gives it more time to stabilize before hitting the 100 yard target? I don't know why they shoot better, just know they do.
North Fork bonded core! Bar-none!
Nozler Partitions would get my vote!
Swift A, Accubonds, Nosler Partitions
Amen to that. North Fork is the bullet for Trophy Hunting.
Jeez, all those animals who've died over the years and were killed by by something other than a North Fork must be feeling 'ripped off'.
"Best" is the bullet (preferably premium) that works in your rifle. All of the bullets listed here will do the job if you do your bit.
johnfox is right, if you find a load that shoot's to your "level" of accuracy, then way to go. I had said it before, I have had premium bullets blow up on the shoulder, but penetrated enough (animal dead), and I have used cheap s*#t and it pass completely through (animal dead). Just because a bullet/ammunition is the most expensive does not mean it's the best. Let's face it there have been more animals killed in North America, small and big animals, in the last 100yrs with the basic Remington Core lokt and Winchester Silvertip and most from a 30-30. Premium bullets that hold together, A frame, Accubonds and partitions, like enysee suggested are great for the "less than perfect shot". I have had good luck with pretty much the entire gammet of bullets, and factory ammo. IMO shot placement is first and foremost.
You miss the point johnfox. As you would know, there are many good bullets available to us. Woodleigh, Nosler Partition and Accubond and others are very good if kept within their velocity design parameters. North Fork SS reaches its maximum expansion as low as 2200fps and impacting at 3000 fps does not cause more expansion. I will always use this bullet for trophy hunting because it is as good as it gets. This bullet will open, it will not break up, it will break bone and penetrate as well as a TSX and often better. It will not tumble, it penetrates in a straight line. I also have great success with Swift A-Frames. TSX is good provided it is not too long for calibre because the buggers tend to tumble. All in all, my favourite projectile is the magnificently reliable North Fork. If I am paying hard earned money to hunt trophy game, I will do all to ensure no animal runs off wounded or is lost. That is why I have settled on North Forks.
I use them in my 30.06, 300 Weatherby, 9.3x62 Mauser, 9.3x64 Brenneke, 375 Dakota.
Beau, I don't think I missed the point at all.
Your words..."North Fork is the bullet for Trophy Hunting." By that I understood you to mean that any other projectile is inferior for the task you outlined. You're entitled to your opinion but I'm happy to disagree with you.
Re Barnes bullets tumbling, I'd suggest there has been a bad decision made in relation to bullet choice and barrel twist. It's got nothing to do with the projectile itself.
Hi johnfox, I should have said North Fork is my bullet of choice for trophy hunting. I have had great success with Woodleigh, Barnes, A-Frames and a few others. I have had some miserable failures also by experimenting with the wrong ones for the velocity I shot them at. All a learning curve. The heavy Barnes work fine in my 300 1 in 10" but tumble when fired from a 308 win 1 in 12". They just seem to get a bit untidy. The NFs
are unusual in that they look the same whether they are fired from my 300 or ought 6. I really am thrilled with these things. I do also like the Woodleigh PPSN, A-Frames and TSX and Accubonds. If I had to do the remainder of my hunting with either, I'd be ok with that. The North Forks are similar to but not the same as Trophy Bonded Bear Claws. They have driving bands and velocity can be obtained with about 4% less powder.
Where I was using 90gr 2217 (H1000) I now use 86gr for 3175fps. That is plenty quick enough. Cheers, Beau.
When you say they "tumble", do you mean after impact or do they keyhole on the target? I cannot see why a 180 gr bullet should do either in a 1-12 twist.
Hi, I have not noticed target keyholing, as I have never targeted that particular combo, however when we have tracked it's travel thro flesh we have noticed an odd passage several times. It seems to me that the velocity is too low as the 180gr TSX protrudes deep into powder space of the 308 Win and I believe at that velocity whatever it may be is too slow for that good bullet. When I loaded 150 TSXs in my brothers rifle it became a different thing altogether. It works well. The X bullet is so good I don't think weight or sectional density is an issue on medium game. In fact the 130gr TSX 30 cal is an amazingly good killer on Pigs, Goats and Fallow. It even works well in the 300 Weatherby, sometimes losing petals, but always penetrating. The 180gr TSX is very good in the 300 Weatherby, probably a little too good on our game in Australia. I think the 168gr is a better choice with the exception of Buffalo and Scrub Bull.. For those beasts my rifle is a Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in 9.3 x 64 Brenneke or my CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Mauser. At the moment I am building a 375 Dakota. as a safari rifle. . cheers, Beau.
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