Sportmen for Trump

[sestoppelman]

That's it in a nutshell!!

 

[johnnyblues]

In closing.....let us all pray.

 

[wesheltonj]

Nice list.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-...of-names-of-potential-united-states-supreme-c

 

[Royal27]

NRA endorses Trump.

I wonder if this might not put pressure on some of the Republicans who haven't yet endorsed Trump? None of them want to piss off the NRA.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/20/politics/donald-trump-national-rifle-association/index.html

 

[sestoppelman]

Lets hope so!

 

[tarbe]

All this Clinton bashing is by the empirical data, out of place. Bill Clinton for all his social misbehavior and schemes and deals was on a policy level the most conservative/republican acting president we've had in the last four.

I do believe things would have been quite different had it not been for Newt.

Clinton's legacy (in regards to the things you mention) has been helped greatly by the leash that was around his neck.


tim

 

[Scott Slough]

you prefer the shit that comes out the hags mouth?????

I don't posses your flair for the more colorful element's of the Queen's English ... but yes!

 

[gizmo]

Guys, this is just one of those can't wins / won't persuades we've got here. It appears almost everyone responding is going to vote for Trump. Can't that be enough? Even though the majority are going to plug their nose and do it, it appears that we need to be overjoyed and spectacularly appreciative of this noble fellow instead of just having the Trumpletons be happy. He gets my vote, not my loyalty.

As an aside: I think so much of conservatism my firstborn is named after our 40th president so I'm not your garden variety RINO either. Nonetheless , as a conservative I find it fascinating how skewed reality has become.

All this Clinton bashing is by the empirical data, out of place. Bill Clinton for all his social misbehavior and schemes and deals was on a policy level the most conservative/republican acting president we've had in the last four. Certainly a friend to the tax code. The economy was doing pretty well (even if we discount the computer revolution). The deficit was certainly in better shape. The welfare reform was positive. Even if you say all of that was due to outside pressures upon him, he still gets the medal for the least damaging president as of recently.

If you were to draw a line on a spectrum of conservatism Clinton's policies were on the average to the right of McCain, to the right of Romney, to the right of Paul Ryan, to the right of Bob Dole, to the right of Bush 43, and roughly tied with the conservatism of Bush 41. Therefore, I object to the doom and gloom talk that if I don't vote for another shill pseudo false conservative the world will come to an end as we know it. Did Bush 41 appoint a liberal to the SCOTUS? Yes. Did Bush 43 appoint a moderate? Yes. So electing republicans isn't a guarantee for the bench to be conservative either.

The republican neocon east coast liberal types (and McCain as their surrogate) get backed, funded and supported by the same globalists that supported Bill and now support Hillary. Many of the big corporations were funding both equally so as to not appear to have a favorite. Nothing about the last 20+ years of politics has been conservative and Trump does not appear to be a unique fiscal, military, or moral differentiator than the dozen men that have tried to get the job before him.

In conclusion: I believe that since 1988 we've elected opportunistic, non-conservative politicians. Four years into Bush 43 we still had a gun ban. We had Gale Norton at Interior and numerous infringements on import. Obama appears to be equally lousy at protecting conservation issues. What's the difference? They want power and control and they will log-roll on core issues to maintain the majority influence they need to get things done for their cronies. There is no evidence that any party or nominee is more or less likely to send sportsman down the river via leftist policies towards conservation.

First, Hillary is a criminal and let's not forget she got Americans KILLED then covered it up and lied about it giving a lame ass excuse of some video protest nonsense.
Second, slick Willie road the coat tails of two Reagan and one Bush term which led to the economic success of the 90's. He did nothing to cause any of the success. In addition he and his cronies were responsible for the assault weapons ban and the five day waiting period. He perjured himself under oath. Completely unacceptable. I could give a crap less who was sitting on his staff, pun intended, but he lied and that's what mattered. Furthermore as mentioned above things would have been way different had it not been for Newt. Less we not forget most of the dems got FIRED and voted out for their shinanagins during his admin.
Third, Hillary is a has been, socialist, anti American, race war mongering hag. One is truely touched if they think for one second her prerogative isn't to immediately go after gun and sportsman rights just like her lying philandering husband did. Not to mention she enabled his antics.
Obama said exactly what he was going to do in both of his elections and did exactly that. He said specifically in his campaign speech, "we live in the greatest country on earth, help me to change it". That's a quote. A vote for her is a vote for him and his policies. A vote for her is a vote against America, period. She deserves every bit of ridicule and bashing she receives. A vote for her or a non vote because one doesn't like the Republican candidate is a traitors vote. If the people elect her or the hemroidal "Burn" Sanders then the people of this country get exactly what they deserve.
Trump wasn't my first choice either but, he's the republican candedate so I will vote for him. To do otherwise is to stomp on the founding principals and the sacrifice that has made this country so great.
Furthermore this third party nonsense needs to stop right now, it would be political suicide and garauntee a dem victory.
It's time to decide if people are an American and want to remain a free people, by the people for the people, or to become a socialist welfare state which promotes racial hatred, failed policies, and utter failure.
Like it or not it's up to us to decide, I choose freedom!

I haven't even touched the surface of the email scandal or dozens of other illegal things she and the slickster have been involved in.

 

[Brent in Az]

I am a Ted Cruz supporter, unfortunately he is out of the race. I still have my doubts about Trump, but I will always vote for the lesser of two evils.

The one thing that could cost us this election, is the civil war within the GOP. The RINO's are a huge problem. We need to get rid of them. Specifically, Mitch McConnell, and Paul Ryan, to start with.

Bill and Hillary are" corrupt subhuman slime", and should be kicked off this planet. Take Obama, and George Soros with you!

 

[gizmo]

When are people going to figure out this is NOT ABOUT TRUMP!!!!!!! It's about preventing the United States of Anerica from becoming the former USSR or at absolute best Europe, which would be a discrace to our ancestors and our future generations.

 

[gizmo]

I am a Ted Cruz supporter, unfortunately he is out of the race. I still have my doubts about Trump, but I will always vote for the lesser of two evils.

The one thing that could cost us this election, is the civil war within the GOP. The RINO's are a huge problem. We need to get rid of them. Specifically, Mitch McConnell, and Paul Ryan, to start with.

Bill and Hillary are" corrupt subhuman slime", and should be kicked off this planet. Take Obama, and George Soros with you!

Agree whole heartedly.

 

[Brent in Az]

Only 2 President's have ever been impeached. Andrew Jackson, and Bill Clinton. Neither were convicted.

There is talk coming out of the Oklahoma senate, about impeaching Obama over the transgender bathroom initiative. It will never happen.

If Hillary was a Republican, she would be behind bars already. The corrupt administration is blocking reality.

 

[robertq]

When are people going to figure out this is NOT ABOUT TRUMP!!!!!!! It's about preventing the United States of Anerica from becoming the former USSR or at absolute best Europe, which would be a discrace to our ancestors and our future generations.

Trump is like broccoli..... you may not like it but its good for you.....

 

[sestoppelman]

I cannot imagine anyone on this forum that would vote for a known gun hater, Hideous Hillary, to a guy who just got the NRA endorsement with two sons that like to hunt Africa. It would boggle the mind! But I suppose anything is possible. I know we did have one member some time ago singing HH's praises. Still cant wrap my head around that one.

 

[ack]

I will happily vote for Trump and hope he can get the country going again.

 

[Red Leg]

Only 2 President's have ever been impeached. Andrew Jackson, and Bill Clinton. Neither were convicted.

There is talk coming out of the Oklahoma senate, about impeaching Obama over the transgender bathroom initiative. It will never happen.

If Hillary was a Republican, she would be behind bars already. The corrupt administration is blocking reality.

I am sure Jackson's impeachment will come as a surprise to most historians. Assume you meant Johnson? And I doubt that guidance with respect to bathrooms will meet the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors - even in Oklahoma - though what the Oklahoma Senate would have to do with articles of impeachment I can't imagine. I keep hoping common sense will eventually win out, but the millennials seem to be embracing this nonsense (no doubt from their safe places).

Look, I think this guy has done terrible damage to the very fabric of our country. But dumping principled conservatives with a brain like Paul Ryan is self destructive. The government has to function. Ryan understands that and is at least forcing normal budgetary action. Moreover, he is dealing with a president whose favorability rating is well over 50% - much much higher than the Republican led house.

We also sound a little unbalanced when we credit all Bill's economic success to Regan but blame only Obama for everything that happened after W's market collapse (which, of course, we naturally blame on Bill). I just find it almost impossible to believe that the country worked itself into a position where the choice is Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. Only in America.

 

[sestoppelman]

Some of us credit the Republican Congress as having "helped" Bill Clinton get the economy right. If had had all Dems to deal with it would not have happened. Don't recall anyone giving Bill credit for what REAGAN did. And yes much of the collapse can be blamed on the Dems for the bank/housing loan crisis. That was their doing. Its sort of like how some folks always like to point to Reagan having given amnesty to millions of illegals. Yes, he signed the bill. He had done a deal with the dems, but they didn't hold up their end of the bargain, but somehow that's all forgotten and its all Reagans fault.

The recession was officially over in 2009 and given a president with half a brain and one not a Marxist, the economy probably would have taken off much like Reagans did after the disaster Carter. But given who Obama is, it didn't happen. All he wanted to do was spend money on everything and continue to blame Bush for everything wrong with HIS policies! Most know this but for those that don't, Obama has effectively doubled the national debt during his terms, it stands to be some 20 trillion bucks when he leaves office. And he called Bush "un American" for having a 9 trillion dollar debt! What does that make him? Most of this has not much to do with Trump of course but we have to keep things in perspective. Hideous Hillary would just be more of the same that we have had for nearly 8 years. The country cannot afford it regardless how well Bill the C did or GW or how goofy Trump might be. Maybe he will be a disaster. Its a certainty that HH would be a disaster!

 

[Brent in Az]

I am sure Jackson's impeachment will come as a surprise to most historians. Assume you meant Johnson? And I doubt that guidance with respect to bathrooms will meet the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors - even in Oklahoma - though what the Oklahoma Senate would have to do with articles of impeachment I can't imagine. I keep hoping common sense will eventually win out, but the millennials seem to be embracing this nonsense (no doubt from their safe places).

Look, I think this guy has done terrible damage to the very fabric of our country. But dumping principled conservatives with a brain like Paul Ryan is self destructive. The government has to function. Ryan understands that and is at least forcing normal budgetary action. Moreover, he is dealing with a president whose favorability rating is well over 50% - much much higher than the Republican led house.

We also sound a little unbalanced when we credit all Bill's economic success to Regan but blame only Obama for everything that happened after W's market collapse (which, of course, we naturally blame on Bill). I just find it almost impossible to believe that the country worked itself into a position where the choice is Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. Only in America.

Sorry, but I don't agree with you on Ryan. He is an ,establishment, and special interest, sellout. He will be a failure as house speaker, just like Boehner was.

 

[gizmo]

I agree with the point on Ryan. The reason Trump is as successful as he has been is that people, myself included, are pissed. These dinosaurs have got to go. That's why I was and am a huge Cruz supporter. Talk radio talk or not, the establishment has gotten us where we are as result of their failures and most importantly lack of action. They have done nothing to stop Obama and an over reaching government, nothing to defund Obamacare, and very little in any other aspect. All because they're scared to death to do anything and especially terrified they could be blamed for a gov't shut down.
The fact is Trump is going to be our guy against whom ever the socialists elect or more likely which ever socialist manages to stay out of jail the longest
Trump will be certainly better than the alternative. He may not be great but will damn sure be better than any dem. So again the choice is Trump or a further spiral toward socialism. Period, that's it. It is simple. Honestly, my hope is that with Trump his popularity ends up being the demise of establishment on both sides of the isle. I'd also love to see term limits imposed in the house and the senate. I think it will be possible to get that done under Trump and the current anti establishment sentiment.
Again back to point, whether one likes it or not there is ONLY 1 choice to defeat the democrats. That is TRUMP like it or not that's our choice, it's done. By being mad and not voting is THE exact same thing in reality as voting for a democrat. A third party candidate is unlikely and would be absolutely ignorant and would cost the election just as it did with Bush Sr. So the choice is clear. I've accepted that and with that, though he wasn't my first choice, I will support him 110%. Not doing so is ignorant, short sighted, and down right petty.

 

[sestoppelman]

Absofrickinglutely!!