SOUTH AFRICA: Unlicensed PH Styger Joubert of United Safaris or Tsoma Safaris

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  1. 1stClassOutdoors

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    I have recently returned from a South African hunt. I was mainly filming a buff and plains game hunt for a client, but was offered a lioness at a really good price so I was very excited about this hunt. The hunt started off slow as the PH didn't really want my client to hunt buff for a few days rather just scout out a good one. Several times we had giant buff at 30 yards and the PH didn't want to go after them. We soon were told that we couldn't hunt the buff as the landowner had changed prices and wanted cash up front in addition to the 50% he had paid them to hunt. We had paid the PH ahead of time, but because they would only take cash it would take him a day or so to get it for them. We were pissed at the landowner, but we also smelled a rat. While the PH went to bank, my client went to landowner. We were then told of many bad experiences the land owner had experienced with this PH. We also learned that he had not paid anything for our hunt and even what we were charged was far less than what the PH had quoted us. At this time we insisted on a full refund and the landowner told the PH to leave his property. In addition he allowed us to stay and worked out a deal for my client to still shoot his buff. The PH also paid back a large portion of the money he had taken but still owes us $4800. I'm sure we will not see that money.
    Since returning to the States I have learned that the PH in fact was not a PH. He has not held a license since 2010. I also contacted several of the clients that I had that booked with him and rerouted them. Please, if any of you has been contacted by Styger Joubert of United Safaris or Tsoma Safaris please stay away. He has defrauded clients out of 10's of thousands of dollars this year alone.
    Has anyone else had a problem with him?
     
  2. PHOENIX PHIL

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    I have no experience with him but I have read a report here and there about him. All positive comments as I recall. But that notwithstanding if he hasn't had his license since 2010, well that's a problem and likely indicative of other problems.

    Unfortunately this is yet another example of a bad safari story that includes hunting with an unlicensed aPH.
     
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    That sounds like a bloody mess.

    Glad you smelled a rat and asked some questions.
     
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    First, welcome to AH.

    Sorry you were involved in a bad hunt.

    Thanks for the heads up and warning the rest of us.

    All the best.
     
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    Welcome to AH, and thanks for the warning.
     
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    Welcome to AH... :)

    How did you book with this (PH) individual in the first place.

    Were clients & references checked prior to your booking your hunt? :(
     
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    Refs checked and came back fine.
     
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    It makes forums like this all the more important. Thank you for letting us know your story.
     
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    Welcome to AH! Thanks for sharing this info with us.
     
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    Thanks for the info and welcome to AH.
     
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    Thanks for sharing this most unfortunate situation. To me this would be the ultimate nightmare. Flying all the way to Africa and then find out the PH is a lier. Glad the landowner helped you out.
     
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    Hello I was a lady hunting a lion in South Africa and I think you filmed this hunt.., and you were gone before I had a chance to talk to you. Is there any way I could get a cd of the hunt. If you are the right guy let me know and I'll give you my information. Thanks
     

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