Namibia vs. South Africa

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  1. dtarin09

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    Wanted to get your thoughts on Namibia vs. South Africa for Leopard, Cape Buffalo, and Kudu. I have been blessed to hunt in SA three times including this last time for Cape Buffalo in the Timbivati. I am now addicted to Cape Buffalo - probably a must hunt now on every subsequent visit to the Dark Continent. This time 2015/16 I am interested in Leopard and Monster Kudu as well. Any thoughts or considerations I should take in preparing for my next trip. I plan to spend three weeks on this next trek.

    Thank y'all as always for your thoughts and guidance.

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    I think they are kinda equal? Between hunting in the Limpopo, KZN and northern Namibia they are different. It's probably a little more money to hunt them in RSA, but I hear they use lights too and it's illegal in Namibia.
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    Thanks Enysse. I am also considering the additional time required to travel to Namibia, but would be nice to see another country. Any outfitters in Namibia you would suggest?
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    Well there is Jerome's place and Jame's the Hunt Agent above represents a good place in Namibia.

    Really do your research! These hunts can be hit and miss. If you look at a list Namibia outfitters, a lot will say they hunt leopard but look at how many days it took. Some times people are lucky too. It seems some people carry a lucky rabbits foot everywhere. I'm hesitant to mention anyone.

    The outfitters in the Limpopo will bait a lot to pattern a leopard down. Plenty of outfitters on here sell those hunts.
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    Thank you. Will have to start my research and great place to start Jerome. Thanks for your guidance.
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    Consistent Leopard permit acquisition is the issue in both countries now.
    Lottery draws in either the provinces or the country.
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    How does the draw work? Are certain outfitters based on land concessions (size/number) benefitted within this process?
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    I do not know every system. I just know there is a lottery in place.
    They throw their name in and get drawn or not.
    RSA does not even hunt their entire CITES permits allotment.
    I am also not privy to the entire political agenda involved.

    Limpopo selects from the applicants. They have a process for reissuing permits if they are not used.

    KZN, if I recall correctly, has 5 Leopard permits for the province. Try and get one of those.
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    Thanks Brickburn. Sounds like a tough and political process.
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    It's definitely political. If an outfitter draws a permit, it's a big deal. Some really big leopards are in RSA. Tap (Tony) got a nice one in KZN. And there was a bigger one that outsmarted them.

    You should look into Zimbabwe too.
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    Thanks Enysse. Had eliminated Zimbabwe due to safety concerns.
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    why is the young PH wearing a pistol ?
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    Foxi,

    Not sure why, but he also had a .375. My thoughts is you need all the protection you can get when up against Black Death!

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    Dtarin09,

    If you do not find what you are looking for here among the excellent selection of safari companies and PHs, send an email to big5game@worldonline.co.za (Hannes Swanepoel in Limpopo District, South Africa).
    It is hunting season so, be patient, he will eventually return your email.

    I have hunted with him 3 times and also shot and hung some baits with him for an in-coming client.
    Multiple leopards hit on one bait and quarreled over it.
    The client (Fred Parent) shot a huge tom shortly after I left for my return home.

    I have seen leopard during bright daylight (I think they hunt in shifts there, lol).
    The buffalo in my avatar is from the last hunt I enjoyed with Hannes (Baruli Concession, open to The Kruger Park).
    In normal years he leases hunting rights to about 500,000 acres.

    Good Luck,
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    Thank you Velo Dog - your insight is much appreciated.
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    No worries, and good luck to you.

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