Hunting packages and pressure to shoot more

Discussion in 'Hunting Africa' started by nilsht, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. dory

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    This is a subject that also worries me a bit . I still plan on 3 weeks hunting in Namibia next year , I want to spend most of the time hunting but I dont want to shoot tons off animals , 8 or 9 would be fine , there will be a lot of hunting without me pulling the trigger . I hope this wont piss the PH off and I get pressure to shoot more ?
     
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    you'll be right dory ,let them know from the start that you'll be looking a lot and shooting ,few.
    im 100% they'll do you right ,mate .
     
  3. rphguy

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    Many outfitters will ask you to make your list and they work up a quote. They give a discount based on what's on the list. I feel sure that if your list is larger, the more discount they give up front.
    I notice outfitters charge for that list (may also be their own pre-packaged list) and you pay that amount even if you don't get all those animals. I would not do it this way.
    With KMG, If I had not gotten one of the animals on that list, it would have been subtracted off my final bill.
    Also, If I changed my mind and wanted something else instead of one that I had chosen, then the one I didn't want was subtracted at the published rate and the one I hunted charged at the published rate.
    I think all outfitters ought to do it this way. It takes pressure off and it's fair.

    My first trip I decided not to shoot one animal and substituted another in that manner. Looking back I should have just shot both. What's $350 in the whole scheme of things? lol.
    This time, we ended up shooting everything we wanted + 3 extras.
    Next time? I have about 3 animals that I will definitely want (eland, blue WB, hartebeest) 2 or 3 I would like to get (impala, warthog, common reedbuck) , and a few more that I'd be open to. I think I'd be willing to shoot a good bushbuck on every trip from now on.
    It's hard to believe I've been twice and haven't shot an impala or a warthog.
     
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    that's a lot of days for 9 animals. If I were you, I would state up front that you're looking for extreme size trophies. After all, you could easily shoot your whole list in less than or about 7 days. If you keep to your plan of 9 animals in 21 days, then you could have all the fun of stalking average or really good trophies, but only shoot if it is extreme.
    Consider, though, there are tons of animals that are $300 to $400, you could add every one of those and not increase your trip price much.
    Or, you could shoot some culls.
    Likely, there are also many species that would be free. Baboons and jackals in south africa are usually free.
     
  5. jeff

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    In 7 hunts to SA and Namibia I have never been pressured to shoot from my PH, But on a 10 day hunt that included a warthog on the package I never saw a mature hog male or female, so just because it is on the package don't mean you'll get it!
     
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    When the hunters are done with their trophies and they have some more days I just tell them if they are interested in try to hunt another trophy just make me know and no problem to do it......if not they can stay enjoyng and relaxing in the lodge.
    Last thing I would do is to put any pressure to somebody shoot anything......simple, if they are interested on it they will tell you for sure.
     
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    I went on my first trip to South Africa with the idea to concentrate on bird hunting but wanting the option to take an impala and/or a warthog. Eight plains game animals in the salt later I knew I was hooked but never pressured. On that trip same trip it was suggested that I shoot a mountain reedbuck we found. I passed. Stupid thing to do, haven't seen another one in my last two trips. But there was never any pressure from the outfitter or PH, they just let the incredible quality and amount of game work its way with me.
     
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    If I have my way, I am going to be leaving a lot of money behind in RSA, between trophy fees and tips!

    I am not going halfway around the world and skimping because of trophy fees (PG that is...DG is another thing entirely!). If I see a nice specimen and I can work into a good shot...pull out the wallet. Heck, I may shoot some doubles if possible. Two Impala and two Kudu would be sweet. Two Wildebeest would be nice, too.

    I've been waiting 50 years for this trip...Katy bar the doors! :)
     
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    Most "package" deals are structured based on available quotas and how plentiful the species are. If you look carefully at most package deals, the per species trophy fees add up to a lot more, so don't be afraid of a package even if you dont get every animal. I have always asked first if all the animals in the package are actually there, without having to transfer to another property, or "phantom" hunting the last 2 days for animals not even there. Make sure the package fits what you are looking for, or go with the trophy fees.
     
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    Yes I agree, my package was still a very good deal even though I never had a chance at a warthog, the dollar value was still exceptional! But if I hadn't had a chance or seen the high dollar animal it would have been a bad deal.
     
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    My trip to Namibia this year I had a Duiker and a Warthog on the package. I didn't get them but got a management Giraffe and a Black Wildebeest. Johann adjusted the price to suit, this is the way it should be.
     
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    A hunter should never be under any pressure to shoot extra animals. I'm a pretty picky hunter, a lot of a hunt for me is wildlife viewing and exploration.
     
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    If it were the case when I was hunting I would have shot a Nyala, a Waterbuck and a Gemsbok over and above the animals I took on our hunt.

    Our PH's were great and we had no pressure to shoot anything at any time.
     
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    By no means the Norm if this happens on your safari, you have not contracted a professional and the correct outfitter.

    These might seem like hard words but it's just reality.

    My best always
     
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