Hunting Leopard with Dogs

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  1. Ray Atkinson

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    One of my favorite hunts is Leopard with dogs. Two of the Zim Safari Companies I do business with do this and the success rate is 80% as compared to about 60% on bait..

    It is an exciting hunt and you certainly get more action and more charges with dogs, as the cats can only be pushed so far then they turn and fight. These hunts are an adrenaline rush IMO..

    I grew up hunting Mt. Lion in the Big Bend of Texas with dogs as a part of the ranching business (preditor control) and we had many as they came out of the Big Bend Nat. Park and Mexico..but Leopards and Lions are a whole nuther planet with dogs!
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    It's a dream of mine to hunt all the cats in Africa with hounds!! Hopefully next time I make it over there it will be with a pack of dogs.

    Anyone have any pictures or stories to hold me off until im able to make the trip?
  3. Osonjiva Hunting Safaris

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    Dear Hound Hunter

    Have a look at our Pictures posted. All Leopards listed were hunted this year with our pack of hunting dogs.

    For now no more permits will be issued for Namibia but from february 2010 new permits will be issued.

    Pls. do not hesitate to contact me should you have any questions.

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    Hi Sylvia. Nice looking cats. Are #3and 4 Cheetahs?
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    Hi Gillettehunter

    Yes 3 & 4 are Cheetahs but not hunted with dogs I must add. We have plenty of them causing a lot of damage and it is pure luck if you get to shoot one as they are so fast.
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    My only safari was to Namibia. The landowner and PH echo you about the cheetahs being a problem. His blesbucks were almost completely wiped out by them. While driving down the main road we saw 2 of them trying to get a gemsbuck calf from its mother. Someone else's place so no chance to "interfere". I had a quick glimpse of one on his place while hunting, but didn't get a shot. Again you're right, they are FAST. His place was a shoot on sight deal. One of his neighbors had tanned a bunch of the hides and was using them on all of his bar stools.
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    We are in the fortunate position to have a Taxidermy combined with the Hunting Farm and what we normally do will extra skins that we have is make Hunting Chairs as per underneath.

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    Osonjiva, I am in the process of planning a Safari for 2010 and Namibia or Zimbabwe are likely to be where I end up next year, so I was wondering if you could give me some info on your operation, of course including the leopard hunt with dogs since this I intend to do in either place I end up choosing. I am very new to this, just joined you're wonderful hunting community a couple of hours ago, so be patient with me please; should I post my contact info of can you get my e mail from my profile, please let me know. I will check this during the course of tomorrow, because as I write this its 1:43 in the morning here in Mexico City!

    Thanks from a friend and good hunting everyone!
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    Dear Andres

    Thank you for your message. I will get your contact details from your profile and mail all relevant info to you.

    Thanks

    Sylvia
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    ...Nice looking Cats!! Never hunted Leopard but after watching a couple programs on Leopards being hunted by dogs - it looks exciting as heck!! I always dreamed about hunting Cheetah but that probably will never happen unless the USF&WS get their heads on straight & allow us hunters to import Cheetahs!
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    Hi Cal

    Yes it is unfortunate but you must remember that the Cheetah Conservation Fund (CCF) in Namibia gets a lot of sponsorship from the US and I believe should they allow Cheetah to be imported into the US then it might damage that relationship. It would be like saying on the one hand yes save the Cheetah and on the other hand yes we agree to hunt them.

    We had this discussion at the last Napha meeting when we had to vote on closing Cheetah and Leopard Hunting in Namibia and CCF was also present.

    I might be wrong with regards to the above but where is the big difference between Cheetah and Leopard. But then again I have seen some strange things with regards to exporting animals to certain Countries especially being in the Taxidermy Industry also.

    But then again your dream might come true that while being on a Leopard Hunt you might have the chance to shoot a Cheetah!!! But oh what to do with the skin???
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    I love the chairs!!! I am planning on tanning some elepahnt hides and Zebra skins to make some chairs as well. Great Job!!:)

    Are the chair bases something you make or can they be bought online and shipped? I live in the US so if there was a US equivelent that would be great.

    If they are of your own making (the base chair, not with the hide on it) can you please let me know how much you might charge to make 2 or 3 and ship them to the eastern US? Since the skins will already be here and I cannot import the elephant with any kind of modifications it has to be done in USA.

    Sorry to be so redundant but I really lie those bases. Do hey come in a settie style as well?

    I am looking for a 2nd leopard opprotunity and I would like to hunt PG in Namibia as well (Oryx, trophy Kudu and Zebra) so please keep me posted, by private PM is fine, about what you see goging forward over the next several years with Leopard as well as your rates, packages, etc.

    Thanks for the photos - nice cats.
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    Hi

    We make the chair bases ourselves but I am sure it will be no problem to just export the bases. I would just need to work out a price for you and will mail you tomorrow with regards to that. If you have a idea with regards to the settie as in how you would like to have it done then pls. draw me a picture and scan and mail it to me.

    Tanned Giraffe skin also looks very nice and if you can get Ostrich Leather and tan it Cognac colour it would also look stunning.

    Would the chairs be shipped to New York as we will then be able to quote you on shipment. You can either go via Airfreight or Seafreight. The company that we use for Shipping is IFN in Windhoek but you are of course welcome to use a company of your choice. Pls. use the following link to read the instructions with regards to shipping trophies as the Chairs would fall under that catagory as Animal Horns are used to make them. If you would like to mail them Peter would be the person as he deals with shipments to the States.

    IFN - Trophy Information

    With regards to all your other questions I will send you a mail.

    Thanks
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    ..Sylvia...That was one of my big concerns , but maybe a few nice pictures & a guy could get an oil painting to kind of replace the skin!! If the price on Cheetah isn't to high I might really consider that! By the way those pictures of those chairs are Gorgeous! I really like them!!
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    If we sell skins at the Taxidermy to clients and the skin is not in its original form any more then people can normally take them without needing export permits. ie. if the skins has been made into gun bags, pillows etc.

    I can find out for you if this would count for the US also so then mabe should you get to shoot a Cheetah a Chair or two might be a option for you.

    Will let you know.
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    RAY I have hunted with hounds here in Idaho from the late 80s on. Some of it for an outfitter. Once when things went bad I ended up in the middle of a wounded MT Lion and my pack of dogs, first thing the cat did was grab a hold of my leg and sink all of his digits in as far as he could and give a good rip. Lucky for me I had thick wool pants on and it only took 4 stiches to fix.
    I have always wanted to do a leopard hunt with hounds, me being me, I cant imagine doing it with out hounds. Price tag keeps me from doing it !
    Have also looked into other hound hunting in africa for other small cats ( poor mans hunt) but most dont seem to interested in spending a week doing it. Any ideas ?
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    I would like to clarify some points. Blesbuck is a plains game species, indigenous to the grassplains in the central parts of South Africa. They are an exotic in Namibia and are not suitable to bush country. Its like releasing a pronghorn antelope in the boreal forests. That is why cheetah prey heavily on this easy prey. Cheetah have huge home ranges, up to 200 000 ha or more (~500 000 acres) which is typically patrolled by 1 to 3 male cheetah. They patrol these areas and stay in one area for a while where the feeding is easy and good like e.g. preying on blesbuck in the bush savanna and move on. What people typically see is a lot of activity of the same individuals for some time in one area, not many cheetah.
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    Allthough we have many Blesbuck in our area the cheetahs tend to not hunt them as prey at all but prefer Impala or Springbuck as these are smaller and easier prey.

    Trust me we would be able to tell if we have the same 4 Cheetahs roaming the same area.
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    Sylvia,
    Do you have an pictures of your hounds? We would like to see them in action.
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    Hunting Dogs in Action

    Caracal in Tree
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    Dogs tracking and enjoying some mud
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    Two of our Hunting dogs
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    Hunting dog climbing tree after caracal
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    Transport of the dogs
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