Genocide in South Africa

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  1. Buff-Buster

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    well,decide for yourself whether this is only propaganda,or maybe the truth….

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    Thanks for the reply Willem. I thought about it after I posted this.......I guess it could put some people at risk voicing their opinions on here, so I didn't anticipate much of a response. If things are truly this bad in SA (which I believe they are), the world needs to know what is happening. Even though I am a Texan thru and thru, I somehow feel very connected to Africa and the friendships I have forged there. Breaks my heart to see this happening.
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    I see a few people from RSA posting on this all the time. Kinda makes you wonder how long the supposed peace will last. TIA
    I still love Africa, it's just there are few bad apples.
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    Well when I was lucky enough to safari in South Africa in 2007, my two PH's were both Afrikaans. They were not too fond of the black government(their words) even then. At the evening boma they would relate stories to us about some of the turmoils in the country. Both said that they would hate to have to leave. I didn't know it was this bad. Thanks for the info.
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    I asked a friend PH in RSA about this. He mostly poo pooed it, with the caveat that yes there have been some killings. But like he said, there is killing everywhere and it often gets blown out of proportion. Ones own personal experience can influence opinions on such things for sure. If nothing has happened to a person or any person they know, they would tend to think not much of it. On the other hand if one has personal knowledge of events, they will likely have a different view. Ask someone in Chicago if they know anyone thats been shot, and someone who lives in Missoula, you'll get two different answers. Same country, different geographics. RSA is a big place.
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    +1, i am still happy and NOT going anywhere...can't have a negative attitude about this, i have a family to think off. Keep positive...to a certain extend; if you can't f@%K them, join them...
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    I'm with Bushwack - I'm not going anywhere. Africa is where my heart is. Yes, SA is an extremely violent society - we have the highest murder & rape stats of any place that collects them. Corruption & incompetence are huge issues. But the bottom line is you either leave or stay. The same was true of Zimbabwe. If you stay, you live with it as well as you can. South Africa remains a wonderful, beautiful country.
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    i received this one...

    after reading you can make up your own mind...


    The real truth about the
    å–„REVIOUSLY DISADVANTAGED

    The author of this article is right on the money. The fact is nobody owes
    blacks anything. This is from a comment on a News24 site.

    Please explain the term "PREVIOUSLY DISADVANTAGED"
    Kindly make special reference to following:

    1. Who "disadvantaged" the black people of the interior Southern Africa
    before the (supposed) 礎elligerent white settlers moved inland in the
    mid-19th century? What the settlers found was not hugely
    advanced infrastructures -- deep mines, hospitals, vast libraries of written
    knowledge, imposing institutions of learning, etc. No, as little as 170 years
    ago they found masses of black people (indigenous to the Southern tip of
    Africa) living on the fringes of the Stone Age. Primitive beings dressed in
    skins, wielding sticks, living in primitive dwellings, dragging- and carrying
    their meagre possessions around, since they had not been introduced to
    the benefits of the wheel yet!

    2. Ethiopia - a country that was NEVER colonised is today one of the most
    desolate places on the planet! Who "disadvantaged" the people of Ethiopia?

    3. Compare Zimbabwe and Germany with each other and please explain the
    differences. In 1945 Germany was, for all intents and purposes, flattened to
    ground and torn in half. Fifteen years later, West Germany was described as
    an "Economic Wonder". Around the same time as the end of apartheid, Germany
    was re-unified. It yanked the now-unified Germany back four centuries in time.

    Yet, in about fifteen years (for the second time within a few decades) it built
    another 'economic wonder'. Today it is fast becoming a global leader in almost every field!
    On the flip side Zimbabwe's people were handed one of the wealthiest countries in the
    WORLD (for e.g.: a currency that was stronger than the US dollar!). What is the
    situation today? Competing with Ethiopia as the most desolate hellhole on the planet? Please explain...

    I can carry on for days -- but let that be enough for now.
    Just one more request: please, pretty please, kindly respect the
    intellect of our audience and refrain from cheap (ANC-like) red herrings
    for eg. calling people racists. Just answer the questions directly
    and with tangible substance.
    In parting, I would suggest the following: The term "Previously
    Disadvantaged' is as much a fantasy as is the delusional lunacy that
    threatens voters with the revenge of the ancestors. The same delusional insanity
    that claims the words "KILL THE BOER" really, only means, "Come over to my
    mansion for tea and cookies."

    You cannot take something from somebody WHO NEVER HAD IT in the first place!
    In fact, what is it that white people, specifically white men, are supposed to "give back"
    to black people? Can someone PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE explain to me what it
    is that white men took from blacks?

    LAND? Blacks NEVER owned any land. Any form of formal ownership is a
    Western concept. The black tribes of the mid-19th century haphazardly
    SETTLED in an ad hoc manner -- effectively governed by tribal savagery in other words,
    the most savage ruled the land (a bit like Hillbrow today). They simply ran
    away until they could not run any more -- not having ANY grasp of the concept
    of a horizon or for that matter any measure of finite land mass for eg. the
    boundaries -- that is the fundamental concept of ownership.

    MINERALS? More hallucinations aside -- eg ancient gold mines -- a
    little bit like the Zimbabwe Ruins (the Pyramids, etc) -- next to the
    magnificent structure, the indigenous people built stone-age dwellings out
    of dirt and sticks (at best emulating the birds). Minerals beneficiation is
    an entirely Imperialist/Western concept -- in fact, in many ways it saw some
    of the most tangible advances, by WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN MEN -- just peruse
    some of the academic papers at Wits' Engineering Library.

    WEALTH? Money, capital and the pivotal mechanisms of the wealth that
    allows you to breathe, eat, have children, live a rather healthy productive
    and fulfilling life, but also allowed the cognitive development that leads
    you to make your daft comments here -- it is ALL of Western origins. In fact,
    the key advancements in modern finance and economics were made by the
    DUTCH. Why do you think New York's financial centre is called 'Wall Street'?
    It was initially called 'Waal Straat'.when the settlement was under Dutch
    control Yes, my dear, the Dutch took their cognitive substance there as well.
    The same Dutch that were the most direct descendants of the people who
    landed at the Cape in 1652. In fact, the modern 'WEALTH system' was originated
    by the Dutch and it funded the explorations around the tip of Africa.

    Perhaps we robbed the 租isadvantaged blacks of their private jets, their Breitling watches, their Italian designer suits, or their German luxury limousines, their Blue Light Brigades or perhaps their space shuttles?

    Mmmm... I just hate the implicit assumption that whites stole from blacks.
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    Some valid points IMO,
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    some good points you bring up. some points i have listened too before from my South African and Zimbabwe friends.
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    julius malema who will stand for president next year.....

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    and his new political party he launched last week after being kicked out by the anc

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    "One Farmer murdered in SA every 38 hours, so far in the month of October".......shocking.
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    Bring me to South Africa and I will help stop the genocide.I will fight back.
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    Sounds like a brilliant plan, with a "bright" future (lol)!!!
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    :smoking: This is funny, Malema - Stupid asshole...
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    I saw in a post on facebook, that Frans and Sandy Troskie were attacked by 4 Blacks...pictures from the hospital, they run Pro Dip Limpopo and Sitatunga Safaris, AH members. Makes a person stratch your head about the future safety of Africa.

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