Discussion in '.375 & Up' started by Stocky, Oct 7, 2013.
Picture's worth 1000 words:
These are the only five I got back, rest may still be going ....
Very nice, I do love those TSX! Did you weight the bullets to see what they weight was after the recovery?
What is your opinion of the TSX vs. Nosler partition? I took Federal P3006F 30-06 Springfield 180 gr Nosler Partition to Namibia and had great results. I considered TSX but didn't know a thing about them so I opted for a bullet I knew. Just wondering...
Edit: question is for anyone with experience with both bullets.
What distances were each of these shots taken?
For me I prefer the Barnes just had the best luck with them every bullet I recovered was 95-100 % weight retention what I was able to recover for the most part they were complete pass through. My second favorite is the Nosler Etip also a fantastic bullet. then GMX then comes Nosler Partition and mainly because of all the ones I reloaded I can't remember one that retained over 65% weight retention. Now I understand thats how they're designed and they have proven themself time and time again but for me I prefer the higher weight for complete pass through for more blood trail to follow. But thats just me Not trying to hijack the thread just totaly trust the TSX. Bob
Stocky - very impressive. Not only that you were able to recover all of these, but the picture as well. I am in the same camp as Bobpuckett - Barnes is my "go to" bullet, but I have recovered very few - usually complete pass through. Don't want to hijack thread either with discussion of pass-through vs. expending energy in the animal, but I have never found reason to complain about pass-through and good blood trail.
One of the best penetrating rounds on the market (if not the best expandable...)
My best always
Used the 350grains .375 on buffalo,excellent penetration and expansion,personally I do not think there are better.
Here's an updated graphic with the stats: retained weight, percentage and yardage.
The giraffe began running away after absorbing a quartering-on heart shot so I poked him again on the move. That ended the encounter and we recovered the bullet.
Buffalo almost dropped on his nose with the shot, when his buddies bolted he decided to follow, so I shot him again running away about an inch or so from his anus. Dropped him, D.O.A., recovered the first bullet. It took out the aorta, vena cava and pulmonary artery along with both lungs.
I'm guessing when heavy bone is hit the petals break off but the shank, about 2/3 of the total bullet weight, continues as a solid. Breaking both shoulders of a large Roan impressed me as I've shot a number of elk with partitions and have never seen that. I'd guess probably 4 feet of penetration on the croc (took out a foot of spine after braining him) as well as the giraffe.
Perfect for Africa. I spoke with guys that take elephant using shoulder shots with them.
In fact I did my last hunt with 260 Partition hand loads @ 2800 fps on 14 animals from springbok to Cape Eland. My impression is that they killed the various antelope a tad faster but did not penetrate as deep. I'm sticking with the Barnes.
Used Barnes 300 gr in 375, excellent results from warthog to buff, i would strongly recomend as the go to bullet for any safari!!!!:thumb:
On our hunt we had 180 gr Nosler Partition in the 30-06 and 300 gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw in .375 H&H. Both bullets gave us near-instant kills however it did seem like the TBBC was a bit of a "drill" through. For instance, the good sized Eland that I took quartering away from me, came back with clean entry & exit wounds from a left rib shot exiting at the right shoulder. I was very pleased with the TBBC as it did minimal damage to the hide. Hmmm. Maybe I'll try the Barnes next time.
I've used the 150g Partition in my 270s on many animals ranging from javelina to grizzlies and never been disappointed. I used a 300g Swift A-Frame out of my 375 Weatherby and it's performance was picture perfect. I've only shot a cow elk at 175 yards and a feral hog at 8 feet so far with the 570g TSX out of my 500 Jeffery, both DRT as you would expect and never recovered either bullet. I bought some 150g North Fork bonded soft points for my 270 Weatherby but haven't had a chance to try them yet. So many good bullet choices these days, we are blessed.
450 lb feral hog taken with 570g TSX
The Barnes TSX and TTSX are great bullets and my favorites by far.
Here is the only Barnes TTSX I have found in an animal so far.
It left the barrel at 3367 fps weighing 120 grain and hit the Roe buck at about 3100 fps.
It broke the lower neck/spine, cut off 6-7 ribs and ended up just behind the backstraps weighing 119.8 grains
Stocky, I am curious are those TSX or TTSX? I have used Barnes for many years and seldom ever lose a petal with originals, XLCs or TSX and I tend to drive them quite fast, 100gr .257 @ 3700fps and 210gr .338 at 3150fps. I have just shot my 1st 3 animals with the TTSX and shed petals on all 3, none argued with the effectiveness and 2 were DRT but I did note it.
Both are great bullets but they perform radically different. The Barnes are my go to bullet, they do a great job on good shots with good bullet placement and they outperform all others on those long range end for end shots on wounded game regardless of size. Also due to the outstanding penetration, whether on skin flesh or bone, they allow the use of smaller calibers on larger game if necessary. the partitions do a great job as well and dump a lot more energy soon after entering the animal. However although they do penetrate well they are no match for the Barnes and a far poorer choice for the tough end for end shots, they simply wont get to where they need to go unless you are over gunned for your quarry. Yes you can argue that this is one situation that rarely (or should be rare) happens but it is the time when performance is most critical, after all if we only count perfect world conditions then a .243 will get the job done with a perfect quartering away rib shot on a broadside animal every time, even on a Moose. I prefer to plan for worst case and be pleasantly surprised when everything turns out quick and easy.
They are all TSX, factory "VOR-TX Safari" loads.
Question....has anyone experienced feeding problems with TSXs??? I tried them in my 375 H&H Colt Sauer and they wouldn't feed. I was using factory ammo...Federal Cape Shok 300gr. I think because the bullet is long, as it exits the magazine the nose of the bullet is jamming up at the top of the action before the catridge completey exits the magazine. The bullets are seated to spec so I'm not sure how much further back I can seat the bullets if I handload for it. I've tried other ammo which functions fine in this rifle....its only with the TSXs.
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