Good Morning Norweigianwoods, Barnes always says that, each time they make some change to their mono-metal expanding bullet line. I've only been to Africa 4 times so, perhaps you could email: email@example.com and converse with Mr. Swanepoel who, has shot so many African animals and seen so many shot that I will not hazard a guess as to how many thousand it totals. As for odd angle shots at big game, I already went over that one and so, will not whip a dead horse about it. I respect you opinion but in my experience, plus questioning PHs every time I catch one standing still, I do not agree with you, in terms of what the hunter should take to Limpopo for up to and including blou wildebees. Good hunting My Friend, Velo Dog.