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Thank you everyone for all the helpful load recommendations. I'm still moving forward with the project trying to figure out my own load, considering my hunt is in July I'm not going to do anything drastic such as re-regulation at this point. Here is a promising target with RL15 93.5 grains...

Just for the record the importer has fired the rifle and found success with 91 and 92 grains of RL15 running the Woodleigh solids, I however cannot get the same load to even reach the same velocities his tests showed. Possibly if I can get to his velocity with the RL15 the problem with...

This is a new 3" rifle, it was built to my dimensions from the importers fitting measurements for what its worth. Just mean to say I believe it is a good fit for me. The regulating load for this rifle is Hornady, but it isn't off the shelf dangerous game version. The gun was regulated with a...

I do want to add a note regarding my bench shooting statement above, I know this is a sore subject that invokes a lot of different opinions. When I refer to shooting from a bench I never used any sort of sled, and no part of the gun is in contact with anything other than my hands and my...

I've actually spoke to Ken a couple times about the gun, and I'm giving it some serious consideration allowing him to take the gun and sort this out. We actually spoke this morning regarding the gun. I went to the range today and here are some targets using RL15 and Woodleigh 570 grain solids...

Thank you for uploading that load data, some of those I already had, but there are some others that will be nice to add to my data.

I think you might be misunderstanding my targets. I hang two targets up at 50 yards so I don't confuse which bullet impacted which location on the target. Shots are fired in strings, right then left, the referenced target 8 shots (four strings of right then left) with time to cool in between...

Good example of what I mean, good groups, not bad if you overlap the two targets, but they are crossed.

All groups are being shot at 50 yards, I'll try to upload some pictures of targets recently shot to show the issue.

I've got some groups that are well within 2" for 4 shots from both barrels, however they are crossed. I get what your saying, I often argue with myself what does it matter which barrel it came out of if the point of impacts are relatively tight. Would an elephant be any less dead from a bullet...

When shooting from sticks I always have my hand in contact with the sticks not the rifle, meaning the back of my left hand is the only thing resting on the V of the sticks. Typically if I'm shooting at the same paper, I'll use a buddy to spot the impacts, when testing alone I've been doing...

Most of my loads to this point have been with RL15, and all with 570 grain bullets, the 570 grain bullets seem to be the most readily available. I have tried traditional solids and some of the monolithic solids as well, I'm experiencing crossing results with all. I'm trying to systematically...

Thank You for the advice, I'll dig through my emails and see if I still have his contact info. I completely get what your saying regarding overall group size and relative shooting distance, I think more than anything it bothers me if the rifle is indeed crossing. While shooting today I was...

I've had the pleasure of working with Ken once before, but my understanding is that he is no longer doing this type of work. Does anyone know for sure if he is or isn't?

Hi, I've got a new .500 double that I'm having a hard time getting a load that doesn't cross. I've owned other doubles in the past up to .470, and I've never had such a hard time getting a double rifle to uncross. Before I make the assumption its a regulation issue I want to rule out the...

Hi, the rifle was regulated with Hornady Dangerous Game Ammo, however that ammo is not doing very well for me. For what it is worth the Hornady factory loads were hitting 2175 out of my 23.5" barrels. I'm trying out some Northfork bullets this weekend, but I'm lacking on load data for...

Thank You for the link, I see a couple options I'll try.

Hi, does anyone have any load data for .500 nitro? I'm not set on one particular bullet at the present, but do have interest in solids. However I'd value any load data softs or solids. These loads are for a modern double of good quality, and monolithic solids can be used. Thank You

No, they have made it very clear they are not going to help compensate the missed delivery date in any way. Lessen here is, "Don't pay too much upfront."

I have recently received some good news from the maker, it appears they have come up with a solution to get my rifle shipped by the end of the month. Assuming they hit this ship date all should be just fine, with plenty of time for load development and practicing. Thank you to everyone for the...

Understood, I was referring to Dallas Safari Club which is being held this week.

Thank you for that info, those prices look pretty good compared to what I've seen thus far. Should anyone have some load data for a pet load they wish to share I would certainly be interested as well.

I don't know the exact year, the opinions I've received have been that the gun was built in the early 20s. Its a fun little rifle to shoot, I used it in a double rifle competition recently within the last few months, and received first place honors with it. Beat out some very nice modern...

I don't understand the Distinguished Service Cross question, can you clarify?

I will certainly have some in the waiting. I've been in contact with the maker, and importer diligently since this process began. Based on the way I'm being treated, I don't know if either cares. This particular maker is introducing a brand new rifle this year, and seems more interested in...

$15,000.00 This Manton & CO.360 no. 2 has 26″ Chopper lump bbls with file cut quarter rib, fitted with one standing, two folding leaf express rear sight and matching ramp front base with small bead and fold-up night bead, are engraved “Manton & Co. Gun Makers. Calcutta & Delhi. By Appointment to...

The maker uses Hornady .500 ammo for regulating, I assume that will be the Hornady DGX bullet. The maker does have a dedicated U.S.A. importer, but I'm questioning some of the information I'm being given. I was promised earlier this year that my gun would be with the batch of new guns...

Hi Guys, I've gotten myself into a tough spot with a hunt approaching this July. First the fun part, I'm going to be headed to the Caprivi this July to hunt my first Elephant. I'm booked with VAN HEERDEN SAFARIS, and I've been working on this trip for two years now. To make this trip perfect...

I see that Kynoch uses the .408 diameter bullet in their 3.25" loads, is this the most common among the 3.25"? Who is making bullets in .408 other than Woodleigh, and what are the chances of them phasing out that diameter? In the case of the WR with .403 can you have bullets produced by a...

Hi, when considering a double chambered in 450/400 3.25 what are the negatives a potential owners should know. At first glance it appears the 3" is easier to located ammo for, but if reloading is there any real draw back? Also please clarify is there a bullet diameter difference for the 3" and...

Thank you, that is exactly the kind of information I'm looking for. I know a new modern gun could be bought cheaper, but it certainly doesn't have that nostalgia you spoke of. Would you have any concern taking a vintage gun and treating it just like a modern off the shelf weapon? A quality...

Hi Guys, I've been looking at doubles for a while now and looking towards some of the nice old English guns. Ultimately I'd like to find one that I can put to work, and be a nice investment piece as well. I like the looks of the gun listed below and would like to hear what some of the more...

Thank you for the information, it will be useful in my search for a new rifle.

Thank you for all the great advice from everyone, I have looked at the Chapuis guns and the VC guns, but I think I really want my potential new rifle to have some sort of third bite or a cross bolt. I'm sure it isn't needed but its something I like, currently it doesn't appear I'll be able to...

I need some education on stock grain patterns, are the pretty stocks with the non straight grain patterns weaker? I often see stocks with very straight grained wood that the seller comments on the strength and durability of the wood pattern. Please help explain what makes a good piece of wood...

Thanks for all the help guys, I'm still looking and haven't made my mine up yet. I have seen a brand called Famars that has my interest peaked a bit and there are two nice looking rifles by that maker on Guns international right now that are pretty tempting.

Looking to purchase a used double rifle in either a 450/400 or 470 Specs: Right Hand side by side 14.5 LOP Min. Ejectors Mid to Upper Maker 15K to 25K Not required but would really like something with some extra shotgun barrels and / or smaller caliber barrels Please PM me...

Just received this response from the seller of the Fraser rifle, not sure if this message is complete or not. I assume this is probably a rifle that requires the odd ball bullet size. Never heard the term snow oval bore before. The quote is copied directly from the seller's response.

Mike, thanks for the info on the 450/400 possibly being an odd ball diameter,I never would have known to ask that question. That is exactly some of the info I need to learn about vintage doubles while trying to make a decision if a really want a vintage double or if it would be a good choice to...

Thank you for posting that link, it will surely be a good starting place.

The extra shotgun barrels would certainly be nice, but first and foremost I'm trying to find a larger caliber rifle something in either a 450/400 or 470. Naturally I was drawn to that Searcy set because it had 470 and shotgun barrels not to mention the extra 375 set. I'm still very much in the...

Can't seem to get the hyperlink to come up here it is again http://www.gunsinternational.com/DANL-FRASER-BEST-SXS-RIFLE-450-400-3-1-4.cfm?gun_id=100407526

While doing some more digging online I found this rifle for sale and certainly like the classic look. At this point I'm open to looking at all makers as long as the rifle would make a good hunting rifle and not a wall hanger...

I'll most certainly look some of those pictures up. I often hear people talking down about some double manufacturers saying they are just built on shotgun actions, I really don't know exactly what that means, but would the lack of the cross bolt be an example of a quote unquote shotgun action...

I saw that 3 barrel Searcy set and thought it was pretty cool, but I'm unfamiliar with the maker and didn't know if it warranted that kind of price tag for the set? Also I notice there isn't a crossbolt which is different from my Heym 88B so I wasn't sure if that style locking action was as...

Hi guys, I'd like to get some opinions on what might be a good option for a new used double. I'm headed to Africa soon to hunt buffalo, maybe a hippo, and some plains game. I'd like to pick up a new probably used double in 450/400 or 470, if I could find that option with some extra barrels...

That is the exactly what I was wondering about I appreciate the advice.

I'm no looking at the particular rifle listed but using it as a reference. I understand that a rifle should not become loose after 400 or 500 rounds, but what I was trying to understand is how an old rifle that has become worn and loose can be tightened during restoration, and would a gun that...

Hi, I would like to ask a few questions about possibly buying a restored double rifle and the good / bad points associated with such. I notice that some really nice looking doubles come up that are restored and priced reasonably, but what kind of problems are associated with a restored gun when...

After digging out my fired brass I can see one barrel is striking the primer approximately .012 off center. Still looks like a pretty solid indention but it is slightly lighter than the barrel producing a dead center strike. To the above comment would you please explain the non-rebounding lock...