Toronto Hotel Caves to Antis: Breaks Contract and Cancels African Hunting Show

This sort of thing will only become more common. I'm sure you all noted that The Doobie Brothers and Huey Louis cancelled on the upcoming SCI show due to pressure from antis.

This means that organizations like Bridget's which book hunting shows need to have iron clad contracts. You break the contract, you pay, needs to be the rule, and those on the right side need to enforce their rights. Unless we do so, hunters will end up being kicked around even more than they are now.

I'm not sure a Canadian court would order specific performance in a case like this, but it would certainly order damages. Hunting is not against public policy in this country, at least not yet.
 
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here is the petition # only 2907 people signed this petition and the hotel caved.

https://www.change.org/p/holidayinn-ihg-cancel-african-trophy-hunting-expo-endtrophyhunting

here is the website to the animal justice group that lead the petition.
http://www.animaljustice.ca/media-r...iday-inn-to-drop-african-trophy-hunting-expo/

I will be sending them an email on letting them know how I was just in Africa and how important and viable an industry hunting is to the sustainment of the wildlife in all countries! I will send this off tomorrow.

please add any other important notes to this thread and I will add them in.

Very cool. Maybe copy the hotel? Should OFAH be chiming in too?
 
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these great points from the RMEF website will be going to my email to Animal Justice
http://www.rmef.org/Conservation/HuntingIsConservation/25ReasonsWhyHuntingIsConservation.aspx

Reason No. 1 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1907, only 41,000 elk remained in North America. Thanks to the money and hard work invested by hunters to restore and conserve habitat, today there are more than 1 million.

Reason No. 2 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1900, only 500,000 whitetails remained. Thanks to conservation work spearheaded by hunters, today there are more than 32 million.

Reason No. 3 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1900, only 100,000 wild turkeys remained. Thanks to hunters, today there are over 7 million.

Reason No. 4 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1901, few ducks remained. Thanks to hunters’ efforts to restore and conserve wetlands, today there are more than 44 million.

Reason No. 5 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1950, only 12,000 pronghorn remained. Thanks to hunters, today there are more than 1.1 million.

Reason No. 6 why Hunting Is Conservation: Habitat, research and wildlife law enforcement work, all paid for by hunters, help countless non-hunted species.

Reason No. 7 why Hunting Is Conservation: Through state licenses and fees, hunters pay $796 million a year for conservation programs.*

Reason No. 8 why Hunting Is Conservation: Through donations to groups like RMEF, hunters add $440 million a year to conservation efforts.*

Reason No. 9 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1937, hunters actually requested an 11% tax on guns, ammo, bows and arrows to help fund conservation. That tax, so far, raised more than $8 billion for wildlife conservation.*

Reason No. 10 why Hunting Is Conservation: An 11% tax on guns, ammo, bows and arrows generates $371 million a year for conservation.*

Reason No. 11 why Hunting Is Conservation: All together, hunters pay more than $1.6 billion a year for conservation programs. No one gives more!*

Reason No. 12 why Hunting Is Conservation: Three out of four Americans approve of hunting, partly because hunters are America’s greatest positive force for conservation.

Reason No. 13 why Hunting Is Conservation: As taxpayers, hunters also fund the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, U.S. Forest Service, etc.

Reason No. 14 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunting funds conservation AND the economy, generating $38 billion a year in retail spending.*

Reason No. 15 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunting supports 680,000 jobs, from game wardens to waitresses, biologists to motel clerks.*

Reason No. 16 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunters are the fuel behind RMEF and its 6.6 million-plus acres of habitat conservation. More than 95 percent of our 205,000 members are passionate hunters.

Reason No. 17 why Hunting Is Conservation: A wildlife management tool, hunting helps balance wildlife populations with what the land can support, limits crop damage and curtails disease outbreaks.

Reason No. 18 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunters help manage growing numbers of predators such as cougars, bears, coyotes and wolves. Our government spends millions to control predators and varmints while hunters have proven more than willing to pay for that opportunity.

Reason No. 19 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunting has major value for highway safety. For every deer hit by a motorist, hunters take six.

Reason No. 20 why Hunting Is Conservation: Deer collisions kill 200 motorists and cost $10 billion a year. Imagine costs without hunting!

Reason No. 21 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunters provide for conservation—and for their families. Hunting is a healthy way to connect with nature and eat the world’s most organic, lean, free-range meat.

Reason No. 22 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunter numbers are down, while hunter spending for conservation is up. Unequaled devotion!

Reason No. 23 why Hunting Is Conservation: Avid hunter Theodore Roosevelt created our national forests and grasslands and forever protected 230 million acres for wildlife and the public to use and enjoy.

Reason No. 24 why Hunting Is Conservation: With funding from hunters, RMEF helped restore wild elk herds in six states and provinces.

Reason No. 25 why Hunting Is Conservation: As society loses its ties to wildlife and conservation, the bonds with nature formed by hunting are the greatest hope for creating the next generation of true conservationists.
 
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I'm not sure a Canadian court would order specific performance in a case like this, but it would certainly order damages. Hunting is not against public policy in this country, at least not yet.

Collecting a large damage award would certainly help the hotel owner rethink knee jerk reactions.
 
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these great points from the RMEF website will be going to my email to Animal Justice
http://www.rmef.org/Conservation/HuntingIsConservation/25ReasonsWhyHuntingIsConservation.aspx

Reason No. 1 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1907, only 41,000 elk remained in North America. Thanks to the money and hard work invested by hunters to restore and conserve habitat, today there are more than 1 million.

Reason No. 2 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1900, only 500,000 whitetails remained. Thanks to conservation work spearheaded by hunters, today there are more than 32 million.

Reason No. 3 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1900, only 100,000 wild turkeys remained. Thanks to hunters, today there are over 7 million.

Reason No. 4 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1901, few ducks remained. Thanks to hunters’ efforts to restore and conserve wetlands, today there are more than 44 million.

Reason No. 5 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1950, only 12,000 pronghorn remained. Thanks to hunters, today there are more than 1.1 million.

Reason No. 6 why Hunting Is Conservation: Habitat, research and wildlife law enforcement work, all paid for by hunters, help countless non-hunted species.

Reason No. 7 why Hunting Is Conservation: Through state licenses and fees, hunters pay $796 million a year for conservation programs.*

Reason No. 8 why Hunting Is Conservation: Through donations to groups like RMEF, hunters add $440 million a year to conservation efforts.*

Reason No. 9 why Hunting Is Conservation: In 1937, hunters actually requested an 11% tax on guns, ammo, bows and arrows to help fund conservation. That tax, so far, raised more than $8 billion for wildlife conservation.*

Reason No. 10 why Hunting Is Conservation: An 11% tax on guns, ammo, bows and arrows generates $371 million a year for conservation.*

Reason No. 11 why Hunting Is Conservation: All together, hunters pay more than $1.6 billion a year for conservation programs. No one gives more!*

Reason No. 12 why Hunting Is Conservation: Three out of four Americans approve of hunting, partly because hunters are America’s greatest positive force for conservation.

Reason No. 13 why Hunting Is Conservation: As taxpayers, hunters also fund the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, U.S. Forest Service, etc.

Reason No. 14 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunting funds conservation AND the economy, generating $38 billion a year in retail spending.*

Reason No. 15 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunting supports 680,000 jobs, from game wardens to waitresses, biologists to motel clerks.*

Reason No. 16 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunters are the fuel behind RMEF and its 6.6 million-plus acres of habitat conservation. More than 95 percent of our 205,000 members are passionate hunters.

Reason No. 17 why Hunting Is Conservation: A wildlife management tool, hunting helps balance wildlife populations with what the land can support, limits crop damage and curtails disease outbreaks.

Reason No. 18 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunters help manage growing numbers of predators such as cougars, bears, coyotes and wolves. Our government spends millions to control predators and varmints while hunters have proven more than willing to pay for that opportunity.

Reason No. 19 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunting has major value for highway safety. For every deer hit by a motorist, hunters take six.

Reason No. 20 why Hunting Is Conservation: Deer collisions kill 200 motorists and cost $10 billion a year. Imagine costs without hunting!

Reason No. 21 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunters provide for conservation—and for their families. Hunting is a healthy way to connect with nature and eat the world’s most organic, lean, free-range meat.

Reason No. 22 why Hunting Is Conservation: Hunter numbers are down, while hunter spending for conservation is up. Unequaled devotion!

Reason No. 23 why Hunting Is Conservation: Avid hunter Theodore Roosevelt created our national forests and grasslands and forever protected 230 million acres for wildlife and the public to use and enjoy.

Reason No. 24 why Hunting Is Conservation: With funding from hunters, RMEF helped restore wild elk herds in six states and provinces.

Reason No. 25 why Hunting Is Conservation: As society loses its ties to wildlife and conservation, the bonds with nature formed by hunting are the greatest hope for creating the next generation of true conservationists.

If you also copy OFAH with it too maybe they will be motivated to say something. They were quite late to the lion issue. I think everyone who is member should pipe up.
 
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here is the petition # only 2907 people signed this petition and the hotel caved.

https://www.change.org/p/holidayinn-ihg-cancel-african-trophy-hunting-expo-endtrophyhunting

here is the website to the animal justice group that lead the petition.
http://www.animaljustice.ca/media-r...iday-inn-to-drop-african-trophy-hunting-expo/

I will be sending them an email on letting them know how I was just in Africa and how important and viable an industry hunting is to the sustainment of the wildlife in all countries! I will send this off tomorrow.

please add any other important notes to this thread and I will add them in.

@adgunner ,
Is this not the petition that we made headlines for this year?
 
@adgunner ,
Is this not the petition that we made headlines for this year?

Just had a look at the petition site and what a fine collection of libby left causes. How about we use the site to create a counter petition
 
It always amazes me how corporations bow down to the computer warriors that contribute nothing to society.
 
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I wrote to my OFAH Rep. I will let you know if I get a reply.
 
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Do the lawyers here believe the organizer of the anti-hunting petition drive could be successfully sued by the show's promoter?

Bill Quimby
 
Do the lawyers here believe the organizer of the anti-hunting petition drive could be successfully sued by the show's promoter?

Bill Quimby

Interesting and I would love to hear from a commercial litigator...I guess there are two concepts are play, neither are within my normal area of litigation practice, so for the sake of discussion and this advice is worth what yer paying for it, here goes:

To the extent that false statements were directed at a particular person or business, there may be a defamation. The other tort I can think of is the intentional interference with economic relations, but I am not sure if it is intended to cover popular protests. In this case I would think the organizers would want to base the claim on the false statements designed to undermine their economic interests.

The defamation or slander route deals with a statement that xxxx safari Co hunts endangered Buffalo in South Africa. Well the statement is inaccurate and intended to damage their business. I would have thought that could form the basis of a claim. The safari companies singled out in the other petition may have standing. I am not sure if an umbrella organization, such as the organizers or PHASA, would have standing on behalf of the industry but their own interests could be protected I think. The interesting aspect of this claim is the truth of the statement is tested so all of the statistical benefits of hunting, recovery of animal populations etc.in Africa would be evidence in the action.
 
Do the lawyers here believe the organizer of the anti-hunting petition drive could be successfully sued by the show's promoter?

Bill Quimby
In a word, no.

Pheroze puts forward some interesting theories, but it would depend on the facts to a great extent, and upon the willingness of the courts to perhaps entertain some novel arguments. The argument that people should be free to voice their views, especially with petitions, would carry lots of weight with a court.

I think you'd have to show some statements that are not only demonstrably false but that are intended to cause economic harm without a valid reason, i.e.., maliciously. You cannot do that very easily where the argument on the other side is that killing animals is morally wrong, whatever the reason or whatever the benefits.
 
Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997, S.O. 1997, c. 41

Obstruction of hunting, trapping or fishing
13. (1) A person shall not interfere with lawful hunting, trapping or fishing by,

(a) tampering with traps, nets, bait, firearms or any other thing used for hunting, trapping or fishing;

(b) placing himself or herself in a position, for the purpose of interfering, that hinders or prevents hunting, trapping or fishing; or

(c) engaging in an activity, for the purpose of interfering, thatdisturbs or is likely to disturb wildlife or fish.




Wouldn't it be fun if this could be interpreted so broadly as to include this action.
 
It would be fun, but it won't happen!

I recall a few years ago there was a fuss about a number of pheasant being blown off of an island in the middle of Lake Memphremagog on the Quebec/Vermont border by an unusual storm. Many hundreds of birds drowned and washed up on people's properties. Certain anti-hunters began agitating about the "killing" taking place on the island, which had theretofore been fairly low key.

A town meeting was held to plan a protest, and a representative of the Quebec Fish and Wildlife department showed up. After listening to the plans, he advised the townspeople that interfering with a lawful hunting operation was a crime, and that the government would be present and prepared to arrest anyone disrupting or attempting to disrupt the hunt.

End of protest.
 
It would be fun, but it won't happen!

I recall a few years ago there was a fuss about a number of pheasant being blown off of an island in the middle of Lake Memphremagog on the Quebec/Vermont border by an unusual storm. Many hundreds of birds drowned and washed up on people's properties. Certain anti-hunters began agitating about the "killing" taking place on the island, which had theretofore been fairly low key.

A town meeting was held to plan a protest, and a representative of the Quebec Fish and Wildlife department showed up. After listening to the plans, he advised the townspeople that interfering with a lawful hunting operation was a crime, and that the government would be present and prepared to arrest anyone disrupting or attempting to disrupt the hunt.

End of protest.


It is nice to dream.

Slightly more direct interference in your case and I am glad the perpetrators were forewarned about the law and did not show.



It might fly better under this law in Alberta:

Wildlife Act RSA 2000
Prohibition of harassment of hunters

47(1) A person shall not interfere with the lawful hunting of wildlife by another person, or with any lawful activity preparatory to such hunting, with the intention of preventing or impeding the hunting or the continuation of the hunting.

(2) A person shall not disturb, or engage in an activity that will tend to disturb, wildlife with the intention of preventing or impeding its being lawfully hunted.

(3) A person shall not disturb another person who is engaged in the lawful hunting of wildlife, or in any lawful activity preparatory to such hunting, with the intention of dissuading that person from hunting or otherwise preventing the hunting or of preventing that person’s enjoyment of the outdoors.
 
It is nice to dream.

Slightly more direct interference in your case and I am glad the perpetrators were forewarned about the law and did not show.



It might fly better under this law in Alberta:

Wildlife Act RSA 2000
Prohibition of harassment of hunters

47(1) A person shall not interfere with the lawful hunting of wildlife by another person, or with any lawful activity preparatory to such hunting, with the intention of preventing or impeding the hunting or the continuation of the hunting.

(2) A person shall not disturb, or engage in an activity that will tend to disturb, wildlife with the intention of preventing or impeding its being lawfully hunted.

(3) A person shall not disturb another person who is engaged in the lawful hunting of wildlife, or in any lawful activity preparatory to such hunting, with the intention of dissuading that person from hunting or otherwise preventing the hunting or of preventing that person’s enjoyment of the outdoors.
You do good research Wayne!

This is actually better, but I would say that a court would likely find that 47(1) applies to things done immediately before and in preparation for hunting, out in the field, or on the way to the field. Doubt that it would protect a trade show.

I like the idea of trying it against an airline. Air Canada's actions banning certain cargo seem to have been taken with the intention of preventing or impeding hunting!

But still, more of these types of laws would at least send a message that this is a lawful activity.
 

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