Outrage over female vet who shot feral cat

Diamondhitch · Apr 19, 2015

hunthardsafaris said:
The guy on the cycle was 1km away,the hunter shot at an animal on the horizon, bullet hit the animal but also killed the cyclist.

First, wow there sure were a lot of new posts while I was typing. LOL

Another case in point, No hunter would condone this. Shooting on the horizon is taboo for many reasons and an act that cannot be condoned. This person, much like a drunk driver, will surely pay a steep price for his unsafe act. Despite the lack of intent he is still responsible for any damage he causes, this being the worst case scenario for such.

Double the sentence for defending a dog from a wolf is utterly ridiculous though. That one is truly unfortunate for the man involved.

BRICKBURN · Apr 19, 2015

Savage Hunter said:
she is guilty of stupidity.
it was stupid to ever take a picture of the cat with an arrow in it.
It was even more stupid to post it on the internet.
..................

The social media tidal wave.
If you want attention, post something that will get peoples ire up.
Not the brightest maneuver. (Holding the cat up by the arrow!)

I did not read the article or see the picture originally. But, decided I just had to find it after watching the wave grow.
My original comment still stands.
Looks like she followed AVMA guidelines to the letter with shot placement. No suffering and the animal died instantly.

The good folks in her community will determine if she did something wrong.
That's what the law is for.

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If you can learn something and take note; respectful trophy pictures are a necessity.
(I am sure all the cat lovers in the world will make a huge distinction between these pictures)

Saul · Apr 19, 2015

I don't think that any of us know enough about the situation to be passing judgement one way or another. If the cat was indeed domestic (and it does look that way in the picture) or she broke a law in her area, then she should be prosecuted as such. If she was behaving legally and ethically, then she is innocent. The reality of the situation regarding feral cats, at least from my perspective, is that most of the "feral" cats in the United States are most likely a direct result of poor pet ownership by either not neutering/spaying outdoor pets or through pet abandonment. While working to eradicate feral animals is important to maintaing the environment, it is even more important to work to stop pet owners from increasing the number of feral animals. Someone find Bob Barker...

JimP · Apr 19, 2015

One thing that I know is that you can not distinguish between a feral cat and one that liven inside of a home down the street by looking at a picture of it.

I have about a dozen feral cats in my area and all but a couple look like they could of come out of the house next door 15 minutes ago.

One thing that we do need is responsible pet ownership in this country. Not only cats but dogs also, but neither is going to happen anytime soon.

Diamondhitch · Apr 19, 2015

JimP said:
One thing that we do need is responsible pet ownership in this country. Not only cats but dogs also, but neither is going to happen anytime soon.

Also snakes, lizards, fish and every other thing that crawls walks, swims or flies that people keep as pets. (and dump into the wild as soon as they grow tired of them)

BRICKBURN · Apr 19, 2015

Diamondhitch said:
Also snakes, lizards, fish and every other thing that crawls walks, swims or flies that people keep as pets. (and dump into the wild as soon as they grow tired of them)

Cheetahs, Tigers, Ligers, etc, etc.....

spike.t · Apr 19, 2015

BRICKBURN said:
Cheetahs, Tigers, Ligers, etc, etc.....

so you buying marius one of those spare cheetahs then???? :A Stirring:

BRICKBURN · Apr 19, 2015

spike.t said:
so you buying marius one of those spare cheetahs then????

I am not sure if he is a good pet owner yet. I'll have to do an in depth interview when I see him and his facilities.

spike.t · Apr 19, 2015

BRICKBURN said:
I am not sure if he is a good pet owner yet. I'll have to do an in depth interview when I see him and his facilities.

yup dont want him dumping it and it going feral........... :E Rofl:

Diamondhitch · Apr 19, 2015

spike.t said:
yup dont want him dumping it and it going feral...........

Marius or the Cheetah?

spike.t · Apr 19, 2015

Diamondhitch said:
Marius or the Cheetah?

.............good point!!! :E Big Grin:

bluey · Apr 19, 2015

one may already be a tad feral.................
the other is a cub.......

gi jane · Apr 19, 2015

I'm going to wait to pass judgement on this lady for now. Could be a troll attack.. If it is true well let the chips fall where they may.. Can't imagine why she would do something like this.. I once had to shoot my own dog because my Ex Husband ran over her. Take note of the "Ex", let me tell you I wanted to shoot him as well. Good thing I am smart.. I still suffer from having to do that but he refused to do it. Horrible experience for me. This lady wasn't obligated to destroy the cat as far as I can tell. We won't know any facts for awhile I think. I feel the photo has been manipulated.. Dear God I hope so.. Otherwise WTF?
One thing I have to say, "Bhedge" is very civil and I think he/she is a refreshing change from what we normally read from a non-hunter.

bluey · Apr 19, 2015

I actually think Bhedge,may hunt .if not they aren't totaly anti hunting ........just my sad and sorry opinion
gday janey how you been ,mate ?

Dragan N. · Apr 19, 2015

bhedge said:
Yeah - clearly NOT feral.

It's the fourth sentence in the article, its right there, up the top. The picture in the article even shows a split screen with a family snap of the cat.
You guys bothered to write all this, without even bothering to read the article??? From the groomed state of the cat in the uncensored version of the original picture you can surmise that this wasn't a feral cat.

weird :/

Clearly ehh? Why don't you reread the sentence:

"A local woman later claimed the animal in the photograph was actually her pet, called Tiger, and the matter is now being investigated by police."

It seems the police are now invloved as a result of this woman's claims that it is her pet cat.

Take a look at this article http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3869152

It deals with a similar case in Texas where some bird watcher shot a feral cat, whom a guy claimed was his pet because he fed a colony of feral cats, of which that cat was a part of. And look at what was at the heart of the issue:

"It is not illegal in Texas to shoot a feral cat. It is illegal to shoot someone's pet.

The question for the jury is whether the cat that was killed was owned by Newland. He fed it, but he didn't get it vaccinated, and it didn't go home with him. So how could he own the cat?"

I can definitely see why some animal nut would want to claim that their missing cat is the cat this lady shot. Plus how are you supposed to be able to tell whether a cat is someone's pet or not if it is roaming around freely and doesn't have a collar?

Saul · Apr 19, 2015

Dragan N. said:
Plus how are you supposed to be able to tell whether a cat is someone's pet or not if it is roaming around freely and doesn't have a collar?

Then you shouldn't be shooting the cat!!! I admit that I am biased in this discussion because I am a cat lover. I have had cats as pets my entire life. While I do understand the importance preventing feral animals from ruining an ecosystem, I won't be the one to start shooting at cats. I read the article about Newland and I honestly side with him. What that guy did had nothing to do with conservation. He simply didn't like cats killing "his" birds. I'm sorry, but cats killing birds is simply nature. Birds are here to be food for animals like cats. If we killed off all of the cats just because they killed some birds, then we would have too many birds! Now I do not condone violence, but if I saw someone with a rifle shooting cats under an underpass, I would stop him. I just don't see that as acceptable behavior.

Dragan N. · Apr 19, 2015

Saul said:
Then you shouldn't be shooting the cat!!! I admit that I am biased in this discussion because I am a cat lover. I have had cats as pets my entire life. While I do understand the importance preventing feral animals from ruining an ecosystem, I won't be the one to start shooting at cats. I read the article about Newland and I honestly side with him. What that guy did had nothing to do with conservation. He simply didn't like cats killing "his" birds. I'm sorry, but cats killing birds is simply nature. Birds are here to be food for animals like cats. If we killed off all of the cats just because they killed some birds, then we would have too many birds! Now I do not condone violence, but if I saw someone with a rifle shooting cats under an underpass, I would stop him. I just don't see that as acceptable behavior.

The bird that was killed by the cat was an endangered species. Furthermore since this guy was claiming that these cats where his pets he should have been held fully liable for all of the damages that they caused and should be responsible for keeping them under control. Charge him for his cat killing this bird just as if he had taken a gun and done it himself. That would have probably thought them a lesson.

There is an important distinction to be made here. A feral cat is NOT a pet. Responsible pet owners who love their cats, dogs, or insert whatever other animal should keep them under control and not allow them to roam at large. Not only does this put your pet in danger but your pet can also endanger the environment or other people.

The onus should be on the owner to keep their pet under control. Feral cats cannot just be a given a free pass to annihilate an enivronment just because some irresponsible owners allow their pets to roam at large. Furthermore they are an invasive and destructive species that does not belong. Take a look at Africahunting.com's post to see how destructive cute, cuddly cats can be...

Diamondhitch · Apr 20, 2015

Saul said:
I'm sorry, but cats killing birds is simply nature. Birds are here to be food for animals like cats.

The house cat originated from Africa and was introduced into our NA ecosystem. There is nothing natural about them killing native birds. Bobcats yes, housecats no. They are a problem for certain.

Saul · Apr 20, 2015

I think it is really cool to learn that we are now able to hunt feral animals within city limits without a permit or anything. Maybe I'll shoot some pigeons and that stray dog that hangs outside of my office...

BRICKBURN · Apr 20, 2015

Saul said:
I think it is really cool to learn that we are now able to hunt feral animals within city limits without a permit or anything. Maybe I'll shoot some pigeons and that stray dog that hangs outside of my office...

Let me know how that goes for you Saul...

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