TSA locks or not?

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First time traveling with a gun case and I'm hearing both sides of the gun case lock issue. Some say definitely use TSA locks and others say no way. Would like to hear from those with experience. Flying nonstop from Atlanta to Joburg. Thanks!
 
On the gun case, no TSA locks. No one should be inside your case without you there. It is actually a regulation to NOT have them. Now I'm not saying that TSA wll kow their own regulations or anything crazy like that, but those are the rules.
 
I agree with Royal. Use a standard padlock and make sure that your case clears TSA when you check in at the ticket counter before you leave it. Also it is a good idea to have a spare lock that is unlocked in your rifle case just in case they cut your lock off for some reason. If they see the extra lock they just might relock it for you.

I went to a hardware store and got 3 Master padlocks that are all keyed the same that I use. That way I only have to use one key for everything that I lock up.
 
NO TSA locks on your gun case.
 
I did the trip from Denver through Atlanta and used personal locks that were both keyed the same. TSA in Denver with me there opened the case put Delta's form in the case locked it back up and it was checked through to SA. No problems just have your keys on you so you can open it when you need to. I had a TSA lock on the luggage that my ammo was in. That worked great but when I got back to Denver the lock was no longer there. I did have the Pelicans case with my ammo in locked into the frame of the luggage with a cable lock and it was still there.
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I get some colored zipties and put them through all my luggage lock holes along with my pad lock for my gun case. No one will have colored zipties to replace them if they cut into the bag. I've had them come out with white zip ties put on by Customs. I can tell immediately if someone has been in there. I carry extras with me. I carry extra padlocks with me also.
 
My SKB case has built in TSA locks. I plan on using those along with a pretty serious Master Lock. I figured it has the TSA locks so mind as well use them and then I am covered either way.
 
I had them cut off in Joburg for inspection, so I say no. TSA locks are only good in the USA or it's territory's.
 
No TSA locks on gun case. You should be there to unlock the case for them to inspect. At some stops I unlocked the case at others I handed them the keys and when done I placed the locks back on the case and kept the keys.

You do use TSA locks on the ammo case. Ammo has to NOT be in the rifle case and is put into your checked bag. Not your carry on bag. Once in Africa you may be asked to have the ammo box out of the checked bag but there was not additional cost for it. For us on 0ne flight they asked for it to be separate on the other three they did not. Go figure :)
 
Regular lock on guns and I put TSA locks on ammo in the checked bag. Last trip TSA opened the ammo box
 
Much about TSA seems to be a contradiction and a display of incompetence. This is what happened to me on my last trip (Sept. 2014).

I have made many airline trips carrying firearms nationally and internationally over the course of more years than I care to remember and have never had a serious problem. I also don't want anyone opening my gun case outside of my presence and therefore would have scoffed at the suggestion of putting a TSA lock on my case.

Last September my nephew and I flew from Los Angeles to Denver Colorado and then on to our final destination in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Our firearms, which were together in one case, were routed to our final destination as I have generally done. The trip to Manitoba was trouble free. Our return trip a week later on the same flight route turned into a teeth chipping nightmare.

Leaving Winnipeg we declared our firearms and ammunition at the passenger check-in counter as required. Again I requested that all baggage be tagged for transportation to our final destination in Los Angeles. From there we proceeded to a secondary inspection area where we stood by for a trouble free inspection screening of our firearms by Canadian Officials. Our firearms and ammunition were cleared for boarding and transportation without a problem. After a couple hours layover in Denver we arrived in Los Angeles.

All of our luggage arrived in Los Angeles except the rifle case. After several hours of dealing with airline representatives at the baggage counter and learning that they had no idea where the case was, we eventually filed a missing baggage claim and left. For the next three days we would call baggage services personnel who were unable to tell us anything other than the case had apparently arrived in Denver. From that point on airline personnel had no idea what had happened to the case.

During the next three days of trying to track the case down a friendly and helpful rapport was built with a particular airline representative. On the third day of speaking with her that she told me our case "may have been located". She said one of the baggage handlers had seen a case as described on our missing baggage claim in possession of Denver TSA personnel. She admonished me not to repeat it, but her experiences with TSA personnel were generally bad because she found them to be "idiots". She told me she would follow-up on the possible sighting of the case and get back to me.

A while later she called back to say that our case had been 'sidelined' by TSA Officials. Although she did not know why the case had been pulled from further transportation she said TSA had "taped" the case up and marked it with an order stating it was not to be transported. She then gave me a number to phone Denver TSA for follow-up. I spent the next two days leaving messages and getting return calls from a Denver TSA supervisor who denied knowing anything at all about the case. He denied knowing what the airline baggage representative was talking about.

Finally, the TSA supervisor acknowledged that they had in fact sidelined the case, but he had know idea why. After another day or so he said he had learned that the case had been sidelined for "inspection". He said; "our people couldn't open the case because it has some sort of unusual lock on it" (my case has a vending machine type drum lock that uses a round key). He went on to say if it had a "regular padlock" they could have just cut it off for inspection. I then told him per their own regulations they were not supposed to open a firearms case without the passenger owner present. I further told him that the contents of the case had been inspected and cleared for travel in Winnipeg. He said TSA does not accept inspection status by Canadian officials. That being the case, I next asked him why we were not contacted during our layover in Denver. He could not tell me why we were never contacted or summonsed to open the case in Denver. Although he did insist that the situation would not have occurred if the case had been equipped with a 'TSA lock'.

With TSA Insisting that the Canadian inspection was 'invalid' the bottom line was that they absolutely, positively, would not allow the case to continue on to Los Angeles without being opened for another inspection of contents. The TSA supervisor could only suggest that we either fly or drive to Denver with a key and stand by while the contents were inspected. The only other option was that they would have to cut the case open which would ruin it.

Finally, after several more days, our case was released after I sent a key to Denver TSA and they inspected the case outside of our presence. This, of course, being in direct violation of their policy about passengers keeping the case locked and maintaining a key in their possession. However, after nearly two weeks our case finally arrived in Los Angeles.

I firmly believe TSA people for the most part are minimum wage, minimally competent imbeciles. This incident in particular further showed me that they most likely don't even know how to tie their own shoes without adult supervision. They certainly no longer seem to know how to contact passengers and follow their own rules about gun cases. For my next return trip on that route later this year I will have my case sent from Winnipeg to Denver where I will pick it up and check it back in to avoid this same thing from happening again.

Sorry to be so long winded, but my contempt for the TSA imbeciles runs deep. I cannot help but believe that the actions of the TSA were punitive by design and part of the anti gun sentiment of our present government.
 
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It's Denver.....they may have been smoking something that day.
 
Much about TSA seems to be a contradiction and a display of incompetence. This is what happened to me on my last trip (Sept. 2014).

I have made many airline trips carrying firearms nationally and internationally over the course of more years than I care to remember and have never had a serious problem. I also don't want anyone opening my gun case outside of my presence and therefore would have scoffed at the suggestion of putting a TSA lock on my case.

Last September my nephew and I flew from Los Angeles to Denver Colorado and then on to our final destination in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Our firearms, which were together in one case, were routed to our final destination as I have generally done. The trip to Manitoba was trouble free. Our return trip a week later on the same flight route turned into a teeth chipping nightmare.

Leaving Winnipeg we declared our firearms and ammunition at the passenger check-in counter as required. Again I requested that all baggage be tagged for transportation to our final destination in Los Angeles. From there we proceeded to a secondary inspection area where we stood by for a trouble free inspection screening of our firearms by Canadian Officials. Our firearms and ammunition were cleared for boarding and transportation without a problem. After a couple hours layover in Denver we arrived in Los Angeles.

All of our luggage arrived in Los Angeles except the rifle case. After several hours of dealing with airline representatives at the baggage counter and learning that they had no idea where the case was, we eventually filed a missing baggage claim and left. For the next three days we would call baggage services personnel who were unable to tell us anything other than the case had apparently arrived in Denver. From that point on airline personnel had no idea what had happened to the case.

During the next three days of trying to track the case down a friendly and helpful rapport was built with a particular airline representative. On the third day of speaking with her that she told me our case "may have been located". She said one of the baggage handlers had seen a case as described on our missing baggage claim in possession of Denver TSA personnel. She admonished me not to repeat it, but her experiences with TSA personnel were generally bad because she found them to be "idiots". She told me she would follow-up on the possible sighting of the case and get back to me.

A while later she called back to say that our case had been 'sidelined' by TSA Officials. Although she did not know why the case had been pulled from further transportation she said TSA had "taped" the case up and marked it with an order stating it was not to be transported. She then gave me a number to phone Denver TSA for follow-up. I spent the next two days leaving messages and getting return calls from a Denver TSA supervisor who denied knowing anything at all about the case. He denied knowing what the airline baggage representative was talking about.

Finally, the TSA supervisor acknowledged that they had in fact sidelined the case, but he had know idea why. After another day or so he said he had learned that the case had been sidelined for "inspection". He said; "our people couldn't open the case because it has some sort of unusual lock on it" (my case has a vending machine type drum lock that uses a round key). He went on to say if it had a "regular padlock" they could have just cut it off for inspection. I then told him per their own regulations they were not supposed to open a firearms case without the passenger owner present. I further told him that the contents of the case had been inspected and cleared for travel in Winnipeg. He said TSA does not accept inspection status by Canadian officials. That being the case, I next asked him why we were not contacted during our layover in Denver. He could not tell me why we were never contacted or summonsed to open the case in Denver. Although he did insist that the situation would not have occurred if the case had been equipped with a 'TSA lock'.

With TSA Insisting that the Canadian inspection was 'invalid' the bottom line was that they absolutely, positively, would not allow the case to continue on to Los Angeles without being opened for another inspection of contents. The TSA supervisor could only suggest that we either fly or drive to Denver with a key and stand by while the contents were inspected. The only other option was that they would have to cut the case open which would ruin it.

Finally, after several more days, our case was released after I sent a key to Denver TSA and they inspected the case outside of our presence. This, of course, being in direct violation of their policy about passengers keeping the case locked and maintaining a key in their possession. However, after nearly two weeks our case finally arrived in Los Angeles.

I firmly believe TSA people for the most part are minimum wage, minimally competent imbeciles. This incident in particular further showed me that they most likely don't even know how to tie their own shoes without adult supervision. They certainly no longer seem to know how to contact passengers and follow their own rules about gun cases. For my next return trip on that route later this year I will have my case sent from Winnipeg to Denver where I will pick it up and check it back in to avoid this same thing from happening again.

Sorry to be so long winded, but my contempt for the TSA imbeciles runs deep. I cannot help but believe that the actions of the TSA were punitive by design and part of the anti gun sentiment of our present government.

I remember some enterprising individual on this forum had this happen to him and got the case found in a matter of minutes. He told the Airline reps he was going to call the FBI and report a case of interstate firearm theft.
 
. . . . I also failed to mention that ours was not the only gun case that was sidelined. I was told there were 5 or 6 other gun cases with ours that were also taped up and being held. How many days those gun cases had been sitting there I don't know. However, it would seem that the owners of those cases had also traveled on without notification.
 
I remember some enterprising individual on this forum had this happen to him and got the case found in a matter of minutes. He told the Airline reps he was going to call the FBI and report a case of interstate firearm theft.

I am retired from law enforcement and my traveling companion is a current law enforcement officer. So telling the baggage agents that we would be filing a firearms theft report was the very first thing we did.

So I'm glad the other poster's gun case was located in 'minutes' but that did not happen here. I wish it had. However, it's more about TSA pulling the gun case and letting us fly on to our destination without any notification whatsoever. It's also about TSA telling us we had to return to Denver from Los Angeles and open the case.
 
I am retired from law enforcement and my traveling companion is a current law enforcement officer. So telling the baggage agents that we would be filing a firearms theft report was the very first thing we did.

So I'm glad the other poster's gun case was located in 'minutes' but that did not happen here. I wish it had. However, it's more about TSA pulling the gun case and letting us fly on to our destination without any notification whatsoever. It's also about TSA telling us we had to return to Denver from Los Angeles and open the case.

Pretty sad how the government gets to break its own laws with impunity. Unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats are the bane of our existance
 
lcq . . . I couldn't have said it any better.
 

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