Shady deals in Zimbabwe - Hunters need to wise up!

Ole Bally

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Unfortunately there's a lot of this going on! It has to stop!

Last year a South African PH, his girl friend, a US client and his wife ...and the Zimbabweans involved landed up as guests of our local Free Govt Hotel Rooms (the ones without a key option) for a couple of days and nights.

They had come to shoot an Elephant in the Makuti area of Zimbabwe.

On their first day in the area with an unqualified Zim Learner PH they were caught hunting in an area where they had no permit for. They were detained by National Parks and the Police and charged for a number of things.
No Tour Operators Licence, No full PH licence, Trespassing, Hunting (with clients) without a permit etc etc...a longish list. Not to mention the 'Lacy Act' which also counts out here.

What struck me as the most disappointing thing was that over the ensuing days as they languished, the SA Outfitter didn't once call on the US Embassy in Harare to assist their citizens. When confronted over that issue he said he'd spoken to the attache in South Africa. It turned out later that the embassy was aware but wouldn't interfere as it was at the time that the delegation from Zim was over in the states meeting with members of congress about the ban of elephant product imports into the US.

It transpired that the Zim guy had gotten hold of a PAC permit for an area next door to where they were caught but knew there wasn't any animals there at the time....it's not fenced areas. He'd then sold the 'Elephant' to the SA Outfitter...as he'd done to the same guy on occasions before. The SA outfitter had then sold the 'hunt' to the client and so they landed up in Zim.

The client claimed no knowledge...which was hard to believe ( a $6000.00 Elephant hunt) But knowing what he was doing to drag his wife into it was really foolish and mean. She spent days crying inconsolably and it wasn't any 'fun'.

They got off the charges in the usual way but the I'm hoping the lesson was learned.

As clients, you have a right to know where you are going to hunt and the legitimacy of said safari. If it's an SA Outfitter taking you to Zimbabwe, ask where and find the corresponding Zim Outfitters web site and check it out! NO SA OUTFITTER may outfit a hunt in Zimbabwe without a Licenced Zim Outfitter counterpart.

In Zimbabwe, Ignorance of the Law is not accepted as an excuse when committing crimes.

If, of course, you are willing to 'unwittingly' break the law in an African country then please don't whine when you're caught and detained. It disturbs the other guests in the 'hotel'!

There are currently hunts being offered in the Gwaai area ... buyer beware!

Hunt legally and enjoy the trip of a lifetime!

Yes! PHASA was made aware of the story... They dealt with it from their end...
 
That would make for a long plain ride home sitting next to an angry wife.
 
Thank you for posting this. I have preached the same thing in the past.

BOOK WITH A REPUTABLE ZIM OPERATOR.

If you are booking with a South African make certain they are working with a reputable Zim operator.

Reputable operators put money in anti-poaching, facilities, water, good equipment, etc. They have to charge a little more.

Make certain your PH is fully licensed to hunt in Zim. Ask to see your TR2. I always laugh when hunters say they had to wait days on permits to hunt.

Using the excuse "this is Africa" is a load of crap.

Ole Bally mentioned Gwaai area. Another favorite is Robbins Camp as it is part of Hwange.

Zim is a great safari destination with plenty of reputable operators, PH's pack and dip facilities, taxidermist, exporters, etc.
 
absolutely agree South Africans should stay out of Zim! And Zim should clean their house!

This is a two way street, crooks will be crooks no matter in which country they find themselves in I was burnt badly in Zim by a shady operator as well...

Never again, almost $1.4 bar later and I operate in Mozambique a wiser move I will probably never make again.

Zim is a great hunting destination if you book with the right operator, every bit as good and on the same par as South Africa, Mozambique, Namibia, Tanzania, Zambia and many others.
:)
Only my best as always
 
You mean elephant hunts cost more than $6,000?:E Horrified:


Do you mind sharing the names and companies of the South African PH and the Zim learner PH that were involved so we can file it to memory?

All the best.
 
I´m not feeling sorry for the hunter, what did he expect, a 6000$ Elephant :E Shake Head:
 
Question:
What can PHASA do ??
Can they have there PH license pulled ?
Why I ask, we have a similar situation.
 
I am just still learning about hunting in Africa, and yet I know there are no LEGAL $6000 elephants.
 
From the ZPHGA (of which I have no affiliation) Facebook page these are the folks allegedly involved in the incident.


Zimbabwe Professional Hunters and Guides Association

May 20, 2014 ·


On Wednesday 14th May 2014, Zimbabwean PH Richard Mukoki, a South African PH and his girlfriend and American hunter and wife were arrested in the Pfundundu area Northern Zimbabwe and spent 2 nights in Custody.
Details are that they were supposed to hunt a PAC Elephant. The PAC permit was made out to Zimbabwean PH Richard Mukoki and was issued for the Mukwishi area. They were challenged on the next door concession driving on a road that allegedly does not lead to Mukwishi area. The hunting party was then taken to Makuti Police station where the case was handed over to the police.
The Zimbabwean PH has a “B” restriction that does not allow him to hunt Elephant. Secondly he was not in possession of a TR2 and that means he is not allowed to hunt this PAC animal with foreigners.
The party appeared in court on the 15th and the case was remanded to the 16th. On the 16th all charges were dropped on the foreigners and Richard Makoki is the only one to face 3 charges. The hunt was booked with Makoki by South African agent, Koos De Meyer of Kuche Safaris.
It is most fortunate that the Clients had not yet shot an elephant, as the charges would then have included elephant poaching and would have been aimed at the hunter. The severity of that cannot be over stressed not to mention that it would undermine the work Zimbabwe is trying to do at the moment with USFWS on the Elephant ban.
The Zimbabwean PH is NOT a ZPHGA member. Further we welcome all foreign outfitters/agents to bring their clients to come hunt in Zim. However, if you book with a non-member of ZPHGA, please know our laws as a Zim Jail ain’t no country club!


The article is from May 20, 2014 on the timeline.
 
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Question:
What can PHASA do ??
Can they have there PH license pulled ?
Why I ask, we have a similar situation.


Nature Conservation can pull a license. Not PHASA.
PHASA can reprimand members.
 
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From the ZPHGA (of which I have no affiliation) Facebook page these are the folks allegedly involved in the incident.

https://www.facebook.com/ZPHGA

The article is from May 20, 2014 on the timeline.


Thanks for the info Mike.

Interesting that the SA PH/Outfitter shows up at the local hunting show in OKC.

Do you know if anything was done with him in Zim?

Has PHASA done anything with him? (I realize they don't have jurisdiction) Can they do anything with him?

He obviously would have known that things weren't on the up and up. If the hunters had any experience with Africa they would have know as well. If they weren't experienced African hunters I can see how they could be taken advantage of.

All the best.
 
.............
He obviously would have known that things weren't on the up and up. If the hunters had any experience with Africa they would have know as well. If they weren't experienced African hunters I can see how they could be taken advantage of.
......

The hunters were "friends" with the booking PH. You only give those deals to your closest friends don't you?

Cognitive Dissonance can be the only explanation for this lack of diligence.
 
The hunters were "friends" with the booking PH. You only give those deals to your closest friends don't you?

Cognitive Dissonance can be the only explanation for this lack of diligence.


Thanks for the info. WERE seems to be the optimal word here.

With friends like that ...........
 
Wheels,

Not sure what happened during the incident or after. Keep in mind the SA African agent could have been scammed also. He should have known the Zim PH had a learners license, somebody should have known it is illegal for a tourist hunter to kill a PAC elephant in Zim...............
 
That is very generous of you Mike.
 
Wheels,

Not sure what happened during the incident or after. Keep in mind the SA African agent could have been scammed also. He should have known the Zim PH had a learners license, somebody should have known it is illegal for a tourist hunter to kill a PAC elephant in Zim...............

Appreciate the update.
 
absolutely agree South Africans should stay out of Zim! And Zim should clean their house!

This is a two way street, crooks will be crooks no matter in which country they find themselves in I was burnt badly in Zim by a shady operator as well...

Never again, almost $1.4 bar later and I operate in Mozambique a wiser move I will probably never make again.

Zim is a great hunting destination if you book with the right operator, every bit as good and on the same par as South Africa, Mozambique, Namibia, Tanzania, Zambia and many others.
:)
Only my best as always

Jaco,

I do not think South African's should stay out of Zim. Many hunters "fall in love" with their first PH on their first trip to Africa. After a couple of plainsgame hunts they want to hunt DG. They ask their hero PH what he could do. Many offer great deals and relationships with reputable Zim operators. The SA operator and the Zim operator both depend on this to survive. That is great as long as it is done properly.

But, how many times do these clients end up in Gwaai, Robins, or an area that was recently taken (with no compensation) from an Zim operator that put years of their life and money in to the concession?

Mozambique is not immune from stupidity. I do not know where this is leading but if it effects American hunters it will not be good for the operators. you may want to read the link.

http://sagr.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=197&t=5439
 
Mike I can't access the link.

As mentioned every country has its crooks.

Even where baby Jesus himself was born.

As for Moz I am able to hunt my own clients and have a license (operate legally and on the books) which suits me perfectly, ....as I am yet to find the outfitter and professional hunter that can hunt and look after my clients in the particular way that I do.

Thanks.
 

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