WANTED: Leopard hunt wanted for 2015

Jaco Strauss said:

As Bossie mentioned above it is a bit of a mess in SA as we speak.
1.)there was a glitch with the system to be used for the draw, this was due to the fact that the gps coordinates of each application was not to the correct decimal.
If I read correct, the draw has been postponed to the 13th of JANUARY.

2.Of all provinces in SA Limpopo has by far the largest leopard population, we receive 53 tags a season (hunting allocated), 22 odd are located to the PDI program, a incentive for outfitters to employ black professional hunters and train them in the industry, not provide them with a once off paycheck but train individuals, there are outfitters that got on board with this program and trained legitimate guys and of course others that worked the system.
3.our draw in Limpopo use to be open to limpopo based outfitters only, this was deemed to be unconstitutional, and any outfitter from any province in SA can now apply with hunting rights to a property in Limpopo as well as a registered Limpopo PH.
This brought about a total of .... 1500 applications for 31 leopard tags!
4.nature conservation, in conjunction with Panthera, have come up with the Zone system.
This was initialized to move away from "concentrated" hunts as they call it. The entire province was divided into these zones all averaging 89 000 to 250 000 acres roughly some quite larger.
*only one leopard may be hunted per Zone.
*a minimum of a 1000 ha. property size applies when obtaining hunting rights, should the property be less than 1000 ha. you can obtain hunting rights to neighboring properties to add to your application.
*it works on a point system the more land you have (continual) hunting rights to the more "points" you receive, 1 point or ticket is given per 100 ha. (roughly)
*this means that come draw time if I have 4000 I will have 100 tickets or points in the draw if I have 40 000 hectares my chances increase to be drawn as I have more points.
*if you are drawn in a zone, you can legally hunt any property within the relevant zone to which you have obtained hunting rights.
*if you are drawn in a zone you will have until July 31st to complete your safari or your tag will be distributed to the back up list that was drawn.
*if you are drawn on the back up list you will have time to I believe end of September to complete your safari or it will be cast into an open pool and any outfitter can then sell it at short notice upon Natcon issueing you the permit and the right to market mentioned tag.

Interesting thing though is that this system was implemented by Natcon without taking the PDI (contracted system) between outfitters and govt. Into consideration, which threw a spanner the size of the pan handle into the works.

Now Limpopo is sitting with 22 blacked out zones in which resident outfitters that were not part of the initial PDI plan can not apply in, even though some of them might own 50 000 acres within that zone...

In my honest opinion, it was bulldozed onto the guys, as all decisions by Natcon have almost been before, but if the issues can be ironed out this system could be to the benefit of LEOPARD in the long run.

Age appropriate off take of which I am a huge supporter will be implemented next season and only males above a certain age will be allowed to be harvested (which has it's technical issues)
*no female will be exported.

But I'm all for age appropriate harvesting.

I hope this give you guys an idea, of what is going on, for now I'll stick to Moz.

My best always

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Jaco Strauss said:

As Bossie mentioned above it is a bit of a mess in SA as we speak.
1.)there was a glitch with the system to be used for the draw, this was due to the fact that the gps coordinates of each application was not to the correct decimal.
If I read correct, the draw has been postponed to the 13th of JANUARY.

2.Of all provinces in SA Limpopo has by far the largest leopard population, we receive 53 tags a season (hunting allocated), 22 odd are located to the PDI program, a incentive for outfitters to employ black professional hunters and train them in the industry, not provide them with a once off paycheck but train individuals, there are outfitters that got on board with this program and trained legitimate guys and of course others that worked the system.
3.our draw in Limpopo use to be open to limpopo based outfitters only, this was deemed to be unconstitutional, and any outfitter from any province in SA can now apply with hunting rights to a property in Limpopo as well as a registered Limpopo PH.
This brought about a total of .... 1500 applications for 31 leopard tags!
4.nature conservation, in conjunction with Panthera, have come up with the Zone system.
This was initialized to move away from "concentrated" hunts as they call it. The entire province was divided into these zones all averaging 89 000 to 250 000 acres roughly some quite larger.
*only one leopard may be hunted per Zone.
*a minimum of a 1000 ha. property size applies when obtaining hunting rights, should the property be less than 1000 ha. you can obtain hunting rights to neighboring properties to add to your application.
*it works on a point system the more land you have (continual) hunting rights to the more "points" you receive, 1 point or ticket is given per 100 ha. (roughly)
*this means that come draw time if I have 4000 I will have 100 tickets or points in the draw if I have 40 000 hectares my chances increase to be drawn as I have more points.
*if you are drawn in a zone, you can legally hunt any property within the relevant zone to which you have obtained hunting rights.
*if you are drawn in a zone you will have until July 31st to complete your safari or your tag will be distributed to the back up list that was drawn.
*if you are drawn on the back up list you will have time to I believe end of September to complete your safari or it will be cast into an open pool and any outfitter can then sell it at short notice upon Natcon issueing you the permit and the right to market mentioned tag.

Interesting thing though is that this system was implemented by Natcon without taking the PDI (contracted system) between outfitters and govt. Into consideration, which threw a spanner the size of the pan handle into the works.

Now Limpopo is sitting with 22 blacked out zones in which resident outfitters that were not part of the initial PDI plan can not apply in, even though some of them might own 50 000 acres within that zone...

In my honest opinion, it was bulldozed onto the guys, as all decisions by Natcon have almost been before, but if the issues can be ironed out this system could be to the benefit of LEOPARD in the long run.

Age appropriate off take of which I am a huge supporter will be implemented next season and only males above a certain age will be allowed to be harvested (which has it's technical issues)
*no female will be exported.

But I'm all for age appropriate harvesting.

I hope this give you guys an idea, of what is going on, for now I'll stick to Moz.

My best always

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Jaco Strauss said:

As Bossie mentioned above it is a bit of a mess in SA as we speak.
1.)there was a glitch with the system to be used for the draw, this was due to the fact that the gps coordinates of each application was not to the correct decimal.
If I read correct, the draw has been postponed to the 13th of JANUARY.

2.Of all provinces in SA Limpopo has by far the largest leopard population, we receive 53 tags a season (hunting allocated), 22 odd are located to the PDI program, a incentive for outfitters to employ black professional hunters and train them in the industry, not provide them with a once off paycheck but train individuals, there are outfitters that got on board with this program and trained legitimate guys and of course others that worked the system.
3.our draw in Limpopo use to be open to limpopo based outfitters only, this was deemed to be unconstitutional, and any outfitter from any province in SA can now apply with hunting rights to a property in Limpopo as well as a registered Limpopo PH.
This brought about a total of .... 1500 applications for 31 leopard tags!
4.nature conservation, in conjunction with Panthera, have come up with the Zone system.
This was initialized to move away from "concentrated" hunts as they call it. The entire province was divided into these zones all averaging 89 000 to 250 000 acres roughly some quite larger.
*only one leopard may be hunted per Zone.
*a minimum of a 1000 ha. property size applies when obtaining hunting rights, should the property be less than 1000 ha. you can obtain hunting rights to neighboring properties to add to your application.
*it works on a point system the more land you have (continual) hunting rights to the more "points" you receive, 1 point or ticket is given per 100 ha. (roughly)
*this means that come draw time if I have 4000 I will have 100 tickets or points in the draw if I have 40 000 hectares my chances increase to be drawn as I have more points.
*if you are drawn in a zone, you can legally hunt any property within the relevant zone to which you have obtained hunting rights.
*if you are drawn in a zone you will have until July 31st to complete your safari or your tag will be distributed to the back up list that was drawn.
*if you are drawn on the back up list you will have time to I believe end of September to complete your safari or it will be cast into an open pool and any outfitter can then sell it at short notice upon Natcon issueing you the permit and the right to market mentioned tag.

Interesting thing though is that this system was implemented by Natcon without taking the PDI (contracted system) between outfitters and govt. Into consideration, which threw a spanner the size of the pan handle into the works.

Now Limpopo is sitting with 22 blacked out zones in which resident outfitters that were not part of the initial PDI plan can not apply in, even though some of them might own 50 000 acres within that zone...

In my honest opinion, it was bulldozed onto the guys, as all decisions by Natcon have almost been before, but if the issues can be ironed out this system could be to the benefit of LEOPARD in the long run.

Age appropriate off take of which I am a huge supporter will be implemented next season and only males above a certain age will be allowed to be harvested (which has it's technical issues)
*no female will be exported.

But I'm all for age appropriate harvesting.

I hope this give you guys an idea, of what is going on, for now I'll stick to Moz.

My best always

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johnnyblues said:

Jerome you should be proud, I don't know of any other web site like this.

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johnnyblues said:

I just want to thank everyone for trying to help, make suggestions, send emails to PH's and all the private emails I received in regards to starting this thread. I m truly grateful to this site and everyone here. Great folks willing to help. Thank you all. Jerome you should be proud, I don't know of any other web site like this.

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billc said:

I just hope I helped some and did not make it harder to decide.

It nice to see how this site just gets better and more fun.Plus they still let me sign on yet.

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Arc Africa Hunting Safaris said:

I'm glad you found somebody who is able to assist you!

Enjoy the hunt and please post a few pics

Regards

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lbgsafaris said:

Johnny I think I speak for all of us here if I say we are indeed glad you could come right with a Leopard hunt.

What makes me the happiest of all is that it's not in SA. Shows you our neighboring countries has a system that works.

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