some photos of my 9.3x74r jefferys double rifle, and a hungarian boar

Awesome rifle, I love the figured walnut. There is a lot of mass on that brute of a pig. Congrats on both.
 
Awesome rifle, I love the figured walnut. There is a lot of mass on that brute of a pig. Congrats on both.

thanks, i must confess to having spent a lot of time looking at the wood when waiting for something to happen,:wacko:
 
Many of the older rifles that started life as 360 NE's were converted to 9.3X74R. They'll be the right weight and balance even after the conversion.

I've never seen any that were built of oversized actions, but it could happen I guess.

yes that is what happened with most of the rigby doubles made in .350 no2, which was the rimmed version of the .350 rigby nitro express, plus any of the other calibres of similar dimension that became obsolete, but the converted rifles still go 10lbs plus, i have seen some pushing 11lbs, they are balanced but heavy.
 
some photos just emailed to me showing it a bit closer up

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What a double and the engraving is superb!
 
Wow, very classy rifle indeed.
 
Stunning rifle Mike. Has it killed any buffalo yet ?
 
mike , great boar and a fantastic double

well done
 
Looks like a side plated action rather than a sidelock. J Roberts & Son owned the name in 2004, and I am not sure where they were sourcing their actions. Absolutely beautiful rifle, and the engraving is exceptional. For what load is it regulated?
 
I'll Echo whats allready been said Great Boar great Double
 
That is nice!!! Gorgeous rifle that you actually put to work doing what it does best. Congrats on your rifle and the fact you actually use it afield.
 
It is indeed a great looking rifle sir. What year was it made?
 
i use rws 293grn in it , but am lucky as it shoots 285grn perfectly as well......:)

Spike, can you give me any feedback on the performance of the R.W.S bullets in the field ?
Have you recovered any from game ?

I have some original R.W.S factory loads in 9.3x64mm loaded with the 293gn T.U.G's.
Are these a tough bullet ?, buff capable ?
I chronyd them out of my barrel at 2500fps and they are VERY hot !!! in my chamber.

Thanks in advance.
 
Beautiful rifle and I commend you for actually taking it afield and using it for its intended purpose. Thanks for sharing your hunt experience with us.
 
Spike, can you give me any feedback on the performance of the R.W.S bullets in the field ?
Have you recovered any from game ?

I have some original R.W.S factory loads in 9.3x64mm loaded with the 293gn T.U.G's.
Are these a tough bullet ?, buff capable ?
I chronyd them out of my barrel at 2500fps and they are VERY hot !!! in my chamber.

Thanks in advance.

hi paul on the boar we never looked for them but they worked very well even on the biggest ones. here is a link explaining dates and legal stuff between brenneke and rws. the older rws ammo before the legal action that was loaded with the brenneke made bullets was buff tough , but when rws started making their copies they were lacking even on the bigger plains game animals zebra etc . rws admitted it and redesigned their bullets to be tougher but i havent used these newer ones. the original older ones as far as i can remember had no grooves around the jacket of the bullet behing the cutting edge, but the later rws made ones had 2 grooves behind the cutting edge as far as i can remember and this weakened them. i have an article in an african mag about these differences and i will try and find it and scan it for you. i have a few of the older ones in zambia but am saving them for best as you do...........the few of the not good ones i have left i use on certain things that hang out in the dam when they come over from the river ;) these are ones i took to zambia a while ago and i havent seen any rws or brenneke in zambia so use norma , sako or pmp ammo in the 9.3 there now.

Rifle bullets
All Brenneke rifle bullets have a so-called torpedo-tail (German: Torpedo-Heck), a special form of boat-tail.

The best-known are

  • TIG (German: Torpedo Ideal Geschoß), mainly a fragmentation bullet with a soft core for smaller game, developed in 1917-1927.[7]
  • TUG (German: Torpedo Universal-Geschoß), mainly a deformation bullet with a hard core for bigger game, developed 1935.[8]
From 1935 to 2003, Brenneke concentrated on improving the Brenneke slug.[9] since 2003, the firm developed the

  • TOG (German: Torpedo Optimal-Geschoß) (2003), a deformation-bullet for big game[10]
  • TAG (German: Torpedo Alternativ-Geschoß) (2007), a lead-free deformation bullet.[11]
Lead-free versions of TIG and TUG are built as "TIG nature"[12] and "TUG nature".[13]

Brenneke TIG and TUG against RWS ID and UNI[edit]
From 1972 until 2006, those were manufactured and developed in license by RWS; in 2006, the license was not renewed, and RWS began marketing the bullets as ID-Classicresp. UNI-Classic from 1 July 2006 onward.[14] In February 2009, Brenneke declared it saw ID-Classic and UNI-classic as counterfeit consumer goods and launched a lawsuit against RUAG Amotec.[15]

Brenneke markets the bullets, as well as ammunition, from a different manufacturer under its own name now.
 

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