Support Kendall Jones!!!!

That's the problem I potentially see with this.

Is this person Kendall Jones acting in the best interest of hunters/conservationists with her social media effort?

Or is it an individual(and selfish) effort to leverage the opportunity for personal gain by carefully stage managing(and stoking) a conflict based on equal parts fame/infamy?

I support hunters and communicating/educating the ignorant on how hunters have been the biggest component in species conservation.

But I am not a fan of people who may be intentionally carrying petrol and matches in such a socially/culturally divisive dry forest.

Just calling it as I am seeing it.
 
Facebook can be a problem. My wife posted a couple of pictures of last years hunt on her page. Well some clerk at her job started bashing the pictures almost the instant she put them up. She was unfriended that evening. End if story!
 
SCI Member Kendall Jones Supporters Respond to Critics

Due to the mass amount of media inquiries regarding Kendall Jones recent African Safari, her family, friends, and supporters wish to issue a statement on her behalf.

First and foremost, it’s imperative to make mention that all of Kendall’s hunts in Zimbabwe and South Africa were 100% legal with proper tags and licenses awarded on a pre-approved quota by the countries officials and wildlife department.

Secondly, the tags, licenses, and fees purchased in addition to the services provided by local trackers, skinners, and assistants totaled over $160,000 USD, not including travel and/or production costs. In Zimbabwe, 70% of the country’s population is classified as poor or extremely poor. This money can provide a great deal of stimulus for the local economies in addition to the estimated $200 million annually of which hunters contribute to the overall African economy. In the most rural areas, where many of these hunts take place, a majority of the people are unemployed and depend on bartering as a way of living. We’re very proud of Kendall and Cody in not only helping to conserve these species for future generations, but also for helping contribute both money and jobs to an extremely poor area of Africa.

At this point, we are still on pace to air the content of Kendall’s hunts in early 2015. With regards to the death threats Kendall has received from various members of activist organizations, we would simply ask that these folks consider if threatening to murder a human being for 100% legal behavior makes you worthy of the freedom to express your love for animals. Although our ideologies may be differ from those making threats, we, as a family, still have a profound respect for human life and the law.

Please direct any additional requests through Kendall’s Facebook page.

Thank you,

Family, Friends, and Supporters of Kendall Jones



Source: Safari Club International (SCI)
 
If I may, I would like to present a different view on this. I don't know if Kendall has done this for publicity and if she has, that is her deal. To me it makes no difference at all why she posted them up, the act of posting them up and generating this sort of publicity gives us hunters an incredible opportunity to open dialogue to be able to educate people who don't know the facts of the matter.

There is this massive misconception that the species she hunted are endangered. As a whole they are not, in some areas they are extinct and in others endangered while in others, there are many surplus animals that need hunting to keep their numbers in check in addition to all the other functions hunting performs in furthering conservation efforts in the areas hunting takes place. All of the major conservation organisations recognise the incredible value hunting represents to the conservation effort and if we can point people in the right direction and educate them, more people will turn around and start to ask questions of PETA and the like, of their true contributions, their real motives and the negative effects they are having on conservation.

The problem is that our efforts to turn around the decimation of Africas' Elephant populations in the 80's and more recently the threat to Rhino and Lion is that people hang onto those ideas for decades and they don't realise that it is an ever changing situation that cannot be simplified. Anti hunting organisations have latched onto this and run with it, simplifying the problem and painting the whole of Africa and the various populations of game animals with one brush, claiming everything is endangered in their quest for support, publicity and donations. The same is taking place with the recent canned hunting scandals, it will be a weapon in the anti hunters armoury for years to come, continuing to claim as they do now that almost every lion is killed in canned hunts which could not be further from the truth! But we can hit back and educate those who don't know that it is illegal and it is relegated to the past for the most part.

As far as I can tell, the more these stories rear their heads, the more news media is heading toward a more balanced stance on reporting on the outcry. One network invited Craig Boddington onto their show to put his side across and more are looking at both sides of the story which is great. It educates the layman that the conservation problems we face in Africa are complex and most governments are listening to sound conservation ecologists advice when allocating permits. People are beginning to realise it is a regulated industry that is not a threat to the existence of any species when it is correctly managed like it has been in South Africa.

It is up to each and every one of us to educate ourselves, arm ourselves with the facts as hunters so that we may be able to refute false claims and answer questions and educate those who confront, challenge or question what we do, whatever their motives. Tell them that hunting funds the conversion from farmland to game ranches of 5000km2 every year in South Africa and that as a result more private individuals benefiting from hunting own and manage more natural habitat than the government does and the population of animals on this land is almost as large as in government operated National Parks. Tell them that hunting contributed $122 million in 2010 in trophy fees and accommodation alone, more than South Africas' entire National Parks budget and that much of this added income went to conservation, feeding local communities and combating poaching through various means. Tell them that since the late 1970's, since Kenya banned hunting in favour of photo safaris, their wildlife population has fallen by 85% while right next door, Tanzania has increased their population through hunting. Over the same time period, South Africa has increased it's wildlife population from 475000 animals to 19 million thanks in no small part to breeding programs and game ranches that are funded through hunting. Inform them that live disease free buffalo are being sold into breeding programs for up to $2 million per animal now and this is all driven by trophy hunting and the fact that it gives these animals value and a reason for private investors to protect them.

The more we do this, the better off the entire industry will be! If anyone wants links to documents and web pages that cite scientific papers on conservation and hunting, let me know and I will send you a long list of links so that you may educate yourselves and those around you.
 
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If I may, I would like to present a different view on this. I don't know if Kendall has done this for publicity and if she has, that is her deal. To me it makes no difference at all why she posted them up, the act of posting them up and generating this sort of publicity gives us hunters an incredible opportunity to open dialogue to be able to educate people who don't know the facts of the matter.

There is this massive misconception that the species she hunted are endangered. As a whole they are not, in some areas they are extinct and in others endangered while in others, there are many surplus animals that need hunting to keep their numbers in check in addition to all the other functions hunting performs in furthering conservation efforts in the areas hunting takes place. All of the major conservation organisations recognise the incredible value hunting represents to the conservation effort and if we can point people in the right direction and educate them, more people will turn around and start to ask questions of PETA and the like, of their true contributions, their real motives and the negative effects they are having on conservation.

The problem is that our efforts to turn around the decimation of Africas' Elephant populations in the 80's and more recently the threat to Rhino and Lion is that people hang onto those ideas for decades and they don't realise that it is an ever changing situation that cannot be simplified. Anti hunting organisations have latched onto this and run with it, simplifying the problem and painting the whole of Africa and the various populations of game animals with one brush, claiming everything is endangered in their quest for support, publicity and donations. The same is taking place with the recent canned hunting scandals, it will be a weapon in the anti hunters armoury for years to come, continuing to claim as they do now that almost every lion is killed in canned hunts which could not be further from the truth! But we can hit back and educate those who don't know that it is illegal and it is relegated to the past for the most part.

As far as I can tell, the more these stories rear their heads, the more news media is heading toward a more balanced stance on reporting on the outcry. One network invited Craig Boddington onto their show to put his side across and more are looking at both sides of the story which is great. It educates the layman that the conservation problems we face in Africa are complex and most governments are listening to sound conservation ecologists advice when allocating permits. People are beginning to realise it is a regulated industry that is not a threat to the existence of any species when it is correctly managed like it has been in South Africa.

It is up to each and every one of us to educate ourselves, arm ourselves with the facts as hunters so that we may be able to refute false claims and answer questions and educate those who confront, challenge or question what we do, whatever their motives. Tell them that hunting funds the conversion from farmland to game ranches of 5000km2 every year in South Africa and that as a result more private individuals benefiting from hunting own and manage more natural habitat than the government does and the population of animals on this land is almost as large as in government operated National Parks. Tell them that hunting contributed $122 million in 2010 in trophy fees and accommodation alone, more than South Africas' entire National Parks budget and that much of this added income went to conservation, feeding local communities and combating poaching through various means. Tell them that since the late 1970's, since Kenya banned hunting in favour of photo safaris, their wildlife population has fallen by 85% while right next door, Tanzania has increased their population through hunting. Over the same time period, South Africa has increased it's wildlife population from 475000 animals to 19 million thanks in no small part to breeding programs and game ranches that are funded through hunting. Inform them that live disease free buffalo are being sold into breeding programs for up to $2 million per animal now and this is all driven by trophy hunting and the fact that it gives these animals value and a reason for private investors to protect them.

The more we do this, the better off the entire industry will be! If anyone wants links to documents and web pages that cite scientific papers on conservation and hunting, let me know and I will send you a long list of links so that you may educate yourselves and those around you.
Sir,
You are using the term "extinct" incorrectly in the 2nd paragraph. An animal is extinct ONLY when none exist anywhere. The term for when one area of suitable habitat is devoid of a certain species is "locally extirpated". We must be very careful that we use the correct terminology or else our words will be used against us. What should have been said was "The animals are not extinct. There may be areas of localized extirpation, where others may have more animals than the habitat can sustain..." In this way, we cannot be misquoted, as so often happens in our micro sound byte world. I hope I am not being a snob, I am just trying to ensure that we speak correctly.
Tiss
 
Sir,
You are using the term "extinct" incorrectly in the 2nd paragraph. An animal is extinct ONLY when none exist anywhere. The term for when one area of suitable habitat is devoid of a certain species is "locally extirpated". We must be very careful that we use the correct terminology or else our words will be used against us. What should have been said was "The animals are not extinct. There may be areas of localized extirpation, where others may have more animals than the habitat can sustain..." In this way, we cannot be misquoted, as so often happens in our micro sound byte world. I hope I am not being a snob, I am just trying to ensure that we speak correctly.
Tiss

I agree completely, my apologies. A product of my writing that while I was half asleep I suppose! Thanks for pointing that out.
 
If I may, I would like to present a different view on this. I don't know if Kendall has done this for publicity and if she has, that is her deal. To me it makes no difference at all why she posted them up, the act of posting them up and generating this sort of publicity gives us hunters an incredible opportunity to open dialogue to be able to educate people who don't know the facts of the matter.

There is this massive misconception that the species she hunted are endangered. As a whole they are not, in some areas they are extinct and in others endangered while in others, there are many surplus animals that need hunting to keep their numbers in check in addition to all the other functions hunting performs in furthering conservation efforts in the areas hunting takes place. All of the major conservation organisations recognise the incredible value hunting represents to the conservation effort and if we can point people in the right direction and educate them, more people will turn around and start to ask questions of PETA and the like, of their true contributions, their real motives and the negative effects they are having on conservation.

The problem is that our efforts to turn around the decimation of Africas' Elephant populations in the 80's and more recently the threat to Rhino and Lion is that people hang onto those ideas for decades and they don't realise that it is an ever changing situation that cannot be simplified. Anti hunting organisations have latched onto this and run with it, simplifying the problem and painting the whole of Africa and the various populations of game animals with one brush, claiming everything is endangered in their quest for support, publicity and donations. The same is taking place with the recent canned hunting scandals, it will be a weapon in the anti hunters armoury for years to come, continuing to claim as they do now that almost every lion is killed in canned hunts which could not be further from the truth! But we can hit back and educate those who don't know that it is illegal and it is relegated to the past for the most part.

As far as I can tell, the more these stories rear their heads, the more news media is heading toward a more balanced stance on reporting on the outcry. One network invited Craig Boddington onto their show to put his side across and more are looking at both sides of the story which is great. It educates the layman that the conservation problems we face in Africa are complex and most governments are listening to sound conservation ecologists advice when allocating permits. People are beginning to realise it is a regulated industry that is not a threat to the existence of any species when it is correctly managed like it has been in South Africa.

It is up to each and every one of us to educate ourselves, arm ourselves with the facts as hunters so that we may be able to refute false claims and answer questions and educate those who confront, challenge or question what we do, whatever their motives. Tell them that hunting funds the conversion from farmland to game ranches of 5000km2 every year in South Africa and that as a result more private individuals benefiting from hunting own and manage more natural habitat than the government does and the population of animals on this land is almost as large as in government operated National Parks. Tell them that hunting contributed $122 million in 2010 in trophy fees and accommodation alone, more than South Africas' entire National Parks budget and that much of this added income went to conservation, feeding local communities and combating poaching through various means. Tell them that since the late 1970's, since Kenya banned hunting in favour of photo safaris, their wildlife population has fallen by 85% while right next door, Tanzania has increased their population through hunting. Over the same time period, South Africa has increased it's wildlife population from 475000 animals to 19 million thanks in no small part to breeding programs and game ranches that are funded through hunting. Inform them that live disease free buffalo are being sold into breeding programs for up to $2 million per animal now and this is all driven by trophy hunting and the fact that it gives these animals value and a reason for private investors to protect them.

The more we do this, the better off the entire industry will be! If anyone wants links to documents and web pages that cite scientific papers on conservation and hunting, let me know and I will send you a long list of links so that you may educate yourselves and those around you.

Well said. I agree with your point of view.
 
This is what you are attempting to fight against (comments at the bottom)

This was posted on FB. Wonder what the trophy fee was?:rolleyes:

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Some of the comments:
PenelopeRayzor Bachand said: “Steven Spielberg, I’m disappointed in you. I’m not watching any of your movies again ANIMAL KILLER.”

Vincent Smith quipped: “I don’t care who he is, he should not have shot that animal.”

Matt Uline responded with, “Y’all are dumb asses! This picture isn’t photo-shopped. This is an actual picture of Steven Spielberg posing in front of the movie prop of the Triceratops from Jurassic Park.”

My favourite comment
 
Thanks Brick, that just made my day.
 
Facebook can be a problem. My wife posted a couple of pictures of last years hunt on her page. Well some clerk at her job started bashing the pictures almost the instant she put them up. She was unfriended that evening. End if story!
SCI Member Kendall Jones Supporters Respond to Critics

Due to the mass amount of media inquiries regarding Kendall Jones recent African Safari, her family, friends, and supporters wish to issue a statement on her behalf.

First and foremost, it’s imperative to make mention that all of Kendall’s hunts in Zimbabwe and South Africa were 100% legal with proper tags and licenses awarded on a pre-approved quota by the countries officials and wildlife department.

Secondly, the tags, licenses, and fees purchased in addition to the services provided by local trackers, skinners, and assistants totaled over $160,000 USD, not including travel and/or production costs. In Zimbabwe, 70% of the country’s population is classified as poor or extremely poor. This money can provide a great deal of stimulus for the local economies in addition to the estimated $200 million annually of which hunters contribute to the overall African economy. In the most rural areas, where many of these hunts take place, a majority of the people are unemployed and depend on bartering as a way of living. We’re very proud of Kendall and Cody in not only helping to conserve these species for future generations, but also for helping contribute both money and jobs to an extremely poor area of Africa.

At this point, we are still on pace to air the content of Kendall’s hunts in early 2015. With regards to the death threats Kendall has received from various members of activist organizations, we would simply ask that these folks consider if threatening to murder a human being for 100% legal behavior makes you worthy of the freedom to express your love for animals. Although our ideologies may be differ from those making threats, we, as a family, still have a profound respect for human life and the law.

Please direct any additional requests through Kendall’s Facebook page.

Thank you,

Family, Friends, and Supporters of Kendall Jones



Source: Safari Club International (SCI)

If anything, I think this statement to the press will only add fuel to the fire.

$160,000USD+ is yet another way of obliquely injecting "1%" into the conversation to fuel the hate, since hunters/conservations on one side and gun control/hunting banners clearly mimics the Tea Party versus Occupy Wall Street burn the 1% ers argument.

It's probably pretty safe to assume Kendall and Cody's parents earned all(or at the very least nearly all) of the $160K+ spent in ZIM/SA so it might be a fair bit disingenuous to say they've helped conserve species, create jobs, and inject cash into Africa.

Death threats of any kind are completely unacceptable and should be followed up by LE.

The funneling of response traffic back to Kendall's Facebook page tells me it's highly likely this is a well coordinated effort for personal gain by the aforementioned divide and inflame tactics that have become so popular with politicians and celebrities.

I'm sorry to sound so cynical, but I don't see Kendall as a selfless hunter/conservationist.

I see a very well coordinated effort to create a Bindi Irwin for the pro hunting demographic.

I give Kendall Jones' family and support network an A+ for social media guerilla marketing and branding, but I'd give her(and her family/support network) a D- for putting her media career ambitions before her cause.

Yet another terrible example of how hate can be created, leveraged, and shaped for personal gain.

Sorry....just calling it as I see it...and sincerely hope I'm wrong, but the product thus far leaves me justifiably cynical.
 
In defense of Mr. Spielberg, that triceratop was determined by ethnobotanist Lara Linney to have eaten poisoned berries, and recovered later! Just saying.
Tiss
GO BUCKY!
 
Primo 661 you framed up the situation very well. We as hunters have to stay educated. Here is a fact for everyone. The wild turkey population in the United States was decimated and hunted to almost nothing by the start of World War Two. After the war through the help of hunters the North American Turkey Federation repopulated the the lower 48 states in a decades long effort to bring that bird back to a hunting sustainable population. Where turkey were seldom seen there are now countless millions in North America. It is the purchase of tags and permits that protects the bird and helps people create habitat in which they can breed. The story just goes to show that where hunters are part of the solution to an issue a very reasonable and good outcome can be achieved.
The anti folks will always pick at anyone they can like this young lady. They do so because they are uneducated to the real world and have heard through some media that an animal is on the endangered list. Misinformation then becomes truth to them and we are the bad guys!
 
By the way can anyone tell me what Spielberg used to bring that animal down. Had to be at least a 505 Gibbs with Norma ammo. I'm not buying the berry story at all. I also really want to meet the skinner that took care of that beast! Ha!
 
Wasn't the intention of the people at Stan Winston Studios to make the dinosaurs look real? Well I guess they succeeded. Anyway, the guy who made the original comment was just joking around, but I can't say the same for the rest of the lead-poisoned morons on Facebook.
 

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