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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post
    Just a vile petition
    ..another one..so, what's new..?

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    What are our friends from RSA thinking or saying about this? I have read all kinds of hateful post on the web! "Stay out of country, Hunters should die, etc"..... Not exactly a welcoming reception for us hunters going. It would be pretty hard to mistake us.... dragging a gun case through the airport & all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWH View Post
    What are our friends from RSA thinking or saying about this? I have read all kinds of hateful post on the web! "Stay out of country, Hunters should die, etc"..... Not exactly a welcoming reception for us hunters going. It would be pretty hard to mistake us.... dragging a gun case through the airport & all.
    It is quite an embarresment to me as a proud South African trying to market my country to see things like this.On my personal facebook page I have placed everything possible to gain support for Melissa.But as ussual(read Julius Malema)the ones that you always see screaming and shouting does not represent the sentiment of the majority.On a morning program on kyknet an Afrikaans television station PHASA was today invited to give their opinion,and everybody agreed that this hate speech was wrong.
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    I wouldn't be bothered by any of it. Most South Africans have experience of hunting one way or another. The people saying these things are in the minority and wouldn't have the guts to confront you alone. They find safety in numbers and their numbers are exaggerated by social media.

    Quote Originally Posted by BWH View Post
    What are our friends from RSA thinking or saying about this? I have read all kinds of hateful post on the web! "Stay out of country, Hunters should die, etc"..... Not exactly a welcoming reception for us hunters going. It would be pretty hard to mistake us.... dragging a gun case through the airport & all.
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    I just wonder how many governments will give in to the minority . If for no other reason to show the rest of the world how civilized and politically correct they are. Stupider things have happened.
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    I can only hope that logic will prevail. My greatest concern is that this innocent huntress has to bear the weight of such negative and hurtful backlash. It's not fair that she has to suffer so. Wish I could tell her in person that she has my support. I pray for her sanity and well-being. I can't imagine being the target of such hateful rhetoric. Don't know if I would have the strength she must have. Carry-on Miss, be well and just know that many of us respect and support you. So sorry she has to face such ignorant threats against her life and personal beliefs. Wishing her peace, happiness and security..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gi jane View Post
    I can only hope that logic will prevail. My greatest concern is that this innocent huntress has to bear the weight of such negative and hurtful backlash. It's not fair that she has to suffer so. Wish I could tell her in person that she has my support. I pray for her sanity and well-being. I can't imagine being the target of such hateful rhetoric. Don't know if I would have the strength she must have. Carry-on Miss, be well and just know that many of us respect and support you. So sorry she has to face such ignorant threats against her life and personal beliefs. Wishing her peace, happiness and security..

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    I also posted on FB on her Defense as to the good that hunters do and had one lady come back with a reply that I had a sick way of thinking so I just posted the facts.


    HUNTING TOURISTS CONTRIBUTED R811 MILLION TO ECONOMY IN 2012, SAYS DEA

    Vanderbijlpark, 20 November 2013 - Preliminary findings from the Department of Environmental Affairs latest statistics show that hunting tourists contributed R811 million (2011: R901 million) to South Africa's economy in 2012.

    Department of Environmental Affairs deputy director policy development Magdel Boshoff, speaking at the Professional Hunters' Association of South Africa's (PHASA) 36th AGM and Convention in Vanderbijlpark, said the results were still subject to an audit and verification process but no material differences were expected between this report and the final one.

    The statistics were based only on species fees (the amount a hunting outfitter pays a landowner to harvest an animal) and daily rates (the fee a client pays a hunting outfitter) meaning that the total economic contribution of overseas hunters is understated. The statistics also exclude the impact of local hunters, numbering some 320 000, who hunt mostly for venison.

    The top three source markets for hunting tourists were the USA followed by Denmark and Spain.

    Last year, 40 866 head of game were hunted compared to 48 605 the year before. Rhino hunts showed the biggest decrease with only 52 harvests taking place in 2012 (2011: 137) and contributing R36 million (2011: R84 million) due to stricter criteria used in issuing rhino hunting permits. Lion hunts showed the largest increase with 596 lions harvested in 2012 (2011: 445) and contributing R122 million (2011: R77 million) at an average species fee of R203 000.

    PHASA chief executive Adri Kitshoff said South Africa is home to 2 700 wild lions and 5 000 captive bred ones. "Our lion populations are stable. So are Tanzania's, a country which boasts 16 800 lions and where lion hunting is also permitted. The countries showing the most alarming declines in lion numbers are those where lion hunting is prohibited such as Kenya and Botswana," she said.

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    I also got involved on Facebook, I never use it but in this case I was so fed up with the vile rape and death threats from these so called champions of life I couldn't stop myself.

    I did ask the question that if one of these anti hunting, wildlife saviours was in the bush photographing animals or such like and a lion came out of the grass, an old one for example, kicked out of his pride by a younger and fitter animal, injured, broken teeth and worn claws, finding it hard to hunt for himself and saw an easy to catch human standing there, would that person be glad to see a hunter with a gun at the moment or would they lie roll over and accept what was coming in order to save the lion?

    I only got one reply that killing for self defence is one thing but for fun is another.

    I replied that a dead lion is a dead lion and asked why it is acceptable to kill a lion in one instance but not another? How do the anti hunters decide when it is acceptable to kill a lion or not?

    Basically all animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

    The comments on Facebook are an absolute disgrace and how such disgusting behaviour is allowed on social media when other things are banned is beyond me.

    Oh, wait a minute....... all animals are equal but.........
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    It's the same as the anti gun people here in the states. They don't believe anyone should own a gun, Then when someone breaks into their home , the first thing they do is call someone with a gun (police) to come save them. The logic of the politically correct. They don't care if it's right or wrong ,works or not as long as it's the opinion of the socially acceptable. (we call them sheeple). Those who follow blindly .
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    Here is some fire you can toss on the anti's.
    キ In 1907, only 41,000 elk remained in North America. Thanks to the money and hard work invested by hunters to restore and conserve habitat, today there are more than 1 million.

    キ In 1900, only 500,000 whitetails remained. Thanks to conservation work spearheaded by hunters, today there are more than 32 million.

    キ In 1900, only 100,000 wild turkeys remained. Thanks to hunters, today there are over 7 million.

    キ In 1901, few ducks remained. Thanks to hunters efforts to restore and conserve wetlands, today there are more than 44 million.

    キ In 1950, only 12,000 pronghorn remained. Thanks to hunters, today there are more than 1.1 million.

    キ Habitat, research and wildlife law enforcement work, all paid for by hunters, help countless non-hunted species.

    キ Through state licenses and fees, hunters pay around $800 million a year for conservation programs.*

    キ Through donations to groups like Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, hunters add $440 million a year to conservation efforts.*

    キ In 1937, hunters actually requested an 11% tax on guns, ammo, bows and arrows to help fund conservation. That tax, so far, raised more than $7.2 billion for wildlife conservation.*

    キ An 11% tax on guns, ammo, bows and arrows generates $371 million a year for conservation.*

    キ All together, hunters pay more than $1.6 billion a year for conservation programs. No one gives more!*

    キ Three out of four Americans approve of hunting, partly because hunters are America痴 greatest positive force for conservation.

    キ As taxpayers, hunters also fund the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, U.S. Forest Service, etc.

    キ Hunting funds conservation AND the economy, generating $38 billion a year in retail spending.*

    キ Hunting supports 680,000 jobs, from game wardens to waitresses, biologists to motel clerks.*

    キ A wildlife management tool, hunting helps balance wildlife populations with what the land can support, limits crop damage and curtails disease outbreaks.

    キ Hunters help manage growing numbers of predators such as cougars, bears, coyotes and wolves. Our government spends millions to control predators and varmints, while hunters have proven more than willing to pay for that opportunity.

    キ Hunting has major value for highway safety. For every deer hit by a motorist, hunters take six.

    キ Deer collisions kill 200 motorists and cost $10 billion a year. Imagine costs without hunting!

    キ Hunters provide for conservation and for their families. Hunting is a healthy way to connect with nature and eat the world痴 most organic, lean, free-range meat.

    キ Hunter numbers are down, while hunter spending for conservation is up. Unequaled devotion!

    キ Avid hunter Theodore Roosevelt created our national forests and grasslands and forever protected 230 million acres for wildlife and the public to use and enjoy.

    キ With funding from hunters, RMEF helped restore wild elk herds in six states and provinces.

    キ As society loses its ties to wildlife and conservation, the bonds with nature formed by hunting are the greatest hope for creating the next generation of true conservationists.

    *financial info via America痴 Sporting Heritage: Fueling the American Economy (January 2013) and Hunting in America: An Economic Force for Conservation (January 2013)

    * Check out ClashDaily.com痴

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    Thanks for sharing this great info.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bwannabe View Post
    Here is some fire you can toss on the anti's.
    キ In 1907, only 41,000 elk remained in North America. Thanks to the money and hard work invested by hunters to restore and conserve habitat, today there are more than 1 million.

    キ In 1900, only 500,000 whitetails remained. Thanks to conservation work spearheaded by hunters, today there are more than 32 million.

    キ In 1900, only 100,000 wild turkeys remained. Thanks to hunters, today there are over 7 million.

    キ In 1901, few ducks remained. Thanks to hunters efforts to restore and conserve wetlands, today there are more than 44 million.

    キ In 1950, only 12,000 pronghorn remained. Thanks to hunters, today there are more than 1.1 million.

    キ Habitat, research and wildlife law enforcement work, all paid for by hunters, help countless non-hunted species.

    キ Through state licenses and fees, hunters pay around $800 million a year for conservation programs.*

    キ Through donations to groups like Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, hunters add $440 million a year to conservation efforts.*

    キ In 1937, hunters actually requested an 11% tax on guns, ammo, bows and arrows to help fund conservation. That tax, so far, raised more than $7.2 billion for wildlife conservation.*

    キ An 11% tax on guns, ammo, bows and arrows generates $371 million a year for conservation.*

    キ All together, hunters pay more than $1.6 billion a year for conservation programs. No one gives more!*

    キ Three out of four Americans approve of hunting, partly because hunters are America痴 greatest positive force for conservation.

    キ As taxpayers, hunters also fund the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, U.S. Forest Service, etc.

    キ Hunting funds conservation AND the economy, generating $38 billion a year in retail spending.*

    キ Hunting supports 680,000 jobs, from game wardens to waitresses, biologists to motel clerks.*

    キ A wildlife management tool, hunting helps balance wildlife populations with what the land can support, limits crop damage and curtails disease outbreaks.

    キ Hunters help manage growing numbers of predators such as cougars, bears, coyotes and wolves. Our government spends millions to control predators and varmints, while hunters have proven more than willing to pay for that opportunity.

    キ Hunting has major value for highway safety. For every deer hit by a motorist, hunters take six.

    キ Deer collisions kill 200 motorists and cost $10 billion a year. Imagine costs without hunting!

    キ Hunters provide for conservation and for their families. Hunting is a healthy way to connect with nature and eat the world痴 most organic, lean, free-range meat.

    キ Hunter numbers are down, while hunter spending for conservation is up. Unequaled devotion!

    キ Avid hunter Theodore Roosevelt created our national forests and grasslands and forever protected 230 million acres for wildlife and the public to use and enjoy.

    キ With funding from hunters, RMEF helped restore wild elk herds in six states and provinces.

    キ As society loses its ties to wildlife and conservation, the bonds with nature formed by hunting are the greatest hope for creating the next generation of true conservationists.

    *financial info via America痴 Sporting Heritage: Fueling the American Economy (January 2013) and Hunting in America: An Economic Force for Conservation (January 2013)

    * Check out ClashDaily.com痴

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    Quote Originally Posted by gi jane View Post
    Here's a link to a page on FB. Not sure if you are on it but here it is. Let me know if you can't get it..
    https://www.facebook.com/MelissaBachmanSupporters
    see who else supported sustainable hunting...

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    Good article in regards to the Melissa Bachman controversy.

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    Well said Bwannabe, Excellent replies based on facts for the hunting community, VERY TRUE, no one does more for conservation and restoration of habitat

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    Hmmm, I posted that article on the support Melissa Bachman Facebook page and they deleted it. Apparently the administrator didn't read it.

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