Lion Hunting RSA - A very strong opinion from Jensen Safaris

Originally Posted by enysse

No drugged lion, Lion is free on the property for a while before the hunter arrives...etc. As far as ethics go...everyone has conscience and that will determine who wants to participate in anyone hunt.

I agree with the statements made, enysee touched on ethics, this has been a topic on several of the conversations on this forum. Everyone has what they believe to be a code of ethics. Whether they are the same as any other person or not, there are things they WILL do and WON'T do while hunting. As a hunting community we should not condemn a man or woman for shooting from atop a truck in Africa (unless controlled by law) or shooting animals in a fenced in location.. If you don't like hunting DG in a fenced in compound, then don't. Kinda like flipping channels on the TV and coming across a porn channel or a speech from Barrack Obama, if you don't want to see it, then keep flipping the channel.

Another valid point brought up, and we all know if you give the government (any government) to much power they will take advantage of it, so if they are given the power to close down these Lion hunts what's next. Eventually they would probably try complete re-distribution of all the land owned in SA, tear down the fences and let all the animals free. I know that's extreme, but you get my point.

Very true 35 I do believe that we can tighten the belt on regulation, maybe not regulation itself but the regulating/control of regulations in place, this would most definitly weed out bad or non ethical operators,

Just wanted to mention this aswell.

My best always!

Originally Posted by enysse

Whether it's wolf hunts in the USA or lion hunts in Africa. We need to stick together as a hunting community. In house fighting only helps the anti-hunters. As far as lion hunting in RSA, I just think we need to police ourselves and make sure everyone is running a fair hunt. No drugged lion, Lion is free on the property for a while before the hunter arrives...etc. As far as ethics go...everyone has conscience and that will determine who wants to participate in anyone hunt.

All as I know, if there wasn't lion hunts in RSA, there would be far fewer people completing the "Big 5" in Africa. Not that means anything to me. The whole competition for awards and prestige is not for me. But I can't help but think these hunts save lions in some way.

enysse all of the post have made good points but I think you made it simple I agree 100% we have been fighting these same type of battles for years Wolf hunts. Mountain Lion hunts and many others as long as we stick together it will work out.

Originally Posted by 35bore

I agree with the statements made, enysee touched on ethics, this has been a topic on several of the conversations on this forum. Everyone has what they believe to be a code of ethics. Whether they are the same as any other person or not, there are things they WILL do and WON'T do while hunting. As a hunting community we should not condemn a man or woman for shooting from atop a truck in Africa (unless controlled by law) or shooting animals in a fenced in location.. If you don't like hunting DG in a fenced in compound, then don't. Kinda like flipping channels on the TV and coming across a porn channel or a speech from Barrack Obama, if you don't want to see it, then keep flipping the channel.

Another valid point brought up, and we all know if you give the government (any government) to much power they will take advantage of it, so if they are given the power to close down these Lion hunts what's next. Eventually they would probably try complete re-distribution of all the land owned in SA, tear down the fences and let all the animals free. I know that's extreme, but you get my point.

When your right your right. keep flipping

My answer to the question about the so called canned lion hunts in SA is the same answer that I believe to be right when it comes to all hunting (and maybe life). IF IT IS BIOLOGICALLY SOUND TO DO THIS, THEN WE SHOULD LET THE MARKET DECIDE IF IS IS RIGHT OR WRONG. We all have different ideas about what we want to put into or take out of hunting or even what we consider hunting. The choice is personal and should be left up to the individual to decide. I have decided that I will not hunt lions in SA and can not afford to hunt them elsewhere. So be it. If anyone else thinks that they would like to do this then I am happy to keep my nose out of their business.
Just my two cents, Mike

Originally Posted by M. Egan

My answer to the question about the so called canned lion hunts in SA is the same answer that I believe to be right when it comes to all hunting (and maybe life). IF IT IS BIOLOGICALLY SOUND TO DO THIS, THEN WE SHOULD LET THE MARKET DECIDE IF IS IS RIGHT OR WRONG. We all have different ideas about what we want to put into or take out of hunting or even what we consider hunting. The choice is personal and should be left up to the individual to decide. I have decided that I will not hunt lions in SA and can not afford to hunt them elsewhere. So be it. If anyone else thinks that they would like to do this then I am happy to keep my nose out of their business.
Just my two cents, Mike

Fair enough Mike, I totally agree with your point of wiew. Each of us has to make his own, personal decision, and respect everibody else s.

Each of us has to make their own personal decision, and respect everybody else. We as hunters have to quit fighting amongst us and stick together! There are far too many against hunting - the anti's try their damnest to drive a stake amongst us & we let them do a heck of a job at it. If one wants to grumble about high fences I guess you better stay home & don't go to South Africa. It's nearly all fenced. If you have plenty of acreage I see no problem with it. We as hunters have to respect each other and learn to stay mum on occassion & maybe the anti's will back down a little!