Fair Chase hunts in South Africa
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09-25-2012, 09:22 PM #61
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09-26-2012, 08:57 AM #62
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I thought Chris Troskie explained the situation very professional. His explanation was clear and concise.
When I hear complaints about fencing, I think there are always other options and other countries.
09-28-2012, 01:08 PM #63
10-25-2012, 02:49 AM #64
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This argument can go on forever... You have to consider also the size the area that animals generally roam on, if the size of the property is larger than that area then in my opinion the animal is free roaming, I know about the great wildebeest migration and all that....the fact is that in today's South Africa and elsewhere we have the variety of game available for hunting because they are managed. And to manage you need fences. Fences do not keep all animals in, I have personally seen Eland and Kudu etc. go over or through 8ft fences.
Certain properties need to be larger than average because the carrying capasity of game is lower.
Forget about the fences..get off the vehicle and hunt on foot....
10-25-2012, 05:30 AM #65
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03-29-2013, 05:16 PM #66
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Getting in on this thread a little late, but I have hunted with Crusader Safaris on unfenced free range area. They have several areas they hunt near Durbin, I shot a nice Bushbuck, had a giant Southern Greater Kudu give me the slip, and ended up shooting an Impala and Nyala. That area has some very nice Nyala. All the areas were sheep and cattle ranches with nothing more than waist high livestock fencing. The area is in the Umkomass River Valley, is beautiful and the potential for nice trophies exist. After that area we moved west and hunted other areas they had. Some of it was fenced, but I believe it was not a continuous perimeter. I ended up with a Kudu, Zebra, and Gemsbok as well. This area was 6 hours west of Durbin. It was fun to stay at 3 different camps and see the country. I spent 10 days in SA and had quite a bit of time to enjoy attractions as well.
03-29-2013, 11:23 PM #67
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In my opinion, any area that is at least double the normal home range of the animals "contained" there, is free range, whether fenced with a low fence, a high fence or no fence at all.
03-30-2013, 01:02 AM #68
My post was tongue in cheek and maybe even sarcastic in reply to the original poster's apparent attempts at being controversial. As such it should be read in the full context of the rest of my postings on this topic.
03-31-2013, 01:53 AM #69
I have always wondered where the saying 'fair chase' originated because in a modern hunting context where firearms are used the saying has no relevance.
The oxford dictionary refers - fair (adverb) without cheating or trying to achieve an unjust advantage, (Verb) pursue in order to catch or catch up with.
The only group of hunters currently inhabiting this planet that perform the closest example of 'fair chase' are the Kalahari Bushmen whom run down their antelope prey to a state of exhaustion through sheer endurance and determination. They are only able to achieve this feat by tracking the quarry in conditions that are favorable to viewing the spoor, if the tracks are lost the hunt is over. Making use of a high powered modern firearm fitted with a telescopic scope that allows a man/woman to kill an animal from an undetectable distance cannot be considered 'fair chase' because the hunter is employing an unjust advantage.
High fences are not an absolute barrier for many species and allow for good game management practices. So unless you are going to run your prey down and dispatch it with a spear the high fence is not going to impact your hunt in any real way. Just a mental obstacle for some?
Just my opinion ..........use it .........don't use it............
03-31-2013, 09:16 AM #70
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