Lion hunts in RSA

So, know any places to tell JamieD where to go look for a Lion?

I used to think the same as Capstick but a number of things have changed my mind. To me there is a huge difference between hunting a lion, or any game, on a large area where the animal can exist naturally and shooting an animal that is put out in a pen just before the hunter arrives. That is canned!
To hunt totally free range lion these days will start out around $40k on the very low side.
This, like many hunt prices today, keeps alot of guys out of the field not to mention what is doing to the future of the sport. But that is a topic for another day.
If a guy wants to have the experience of hunting lion but cannot spend $40k+, more power to him if a ranch hunt satisfies his own set of values.
I hunted lion on a large ranch that had plenty of lion on it. It was a great hunt that allowed me to step back in time a bit and be part of a very special event and I would do it again. I do not hunt for the record book nor the approval of others, just the experience. My 2 cents

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Originally Posted by Ole Bally

OK as a 'gamekeeper' what's your opinion on Bird hunting, Game Birds & Pheasant specifically, in the UK? By and large They're bred, released and shot within meters of their release! Does this fall into the same category as the Lion in your opinion?
You're quite happy to crit SA's wildlife ideas and practices but not so happy to check your own back yard! Are these wild deer not enclosed by any fencing at all? They can roam the length and breadth of the Island can they? Not even the neighbors have fences that happen to ring fence an Estate? They may be wild in a sense, but I truly believe that they're managed too one way or another and thus they are 'farmed' too! Isn't that what the 'Gamekeepers' job is? That's a question not a statement...what are a Gamekeepers responsibilities?

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Any game in the UK can walk from the bottom of England to the tip of the Scottish highlands full stop. A released pheasant can walk were ever it wants, it doesn't have to stay on the estate it was released on.

Rather than try and attack me and my country why don't you just face facts that true big game hunting is about wild game not released animals. Your all just trying to justify it to yourselves.

I have better things to do than waste time on here so all the very best to you and your so called hunting.

I am left to wonder how a deer gets through that London traffic and then if that works out does he take the train or hire a car to get to Scotland?

These are things I sometimes ponder.

But, in deference to Cap, I have been to London and while there actually ran into a wild thing, I may still have her number.

Darling girl. Smelled of strawberries as I recall.

but I digress

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Originally Posted by BRICKBURN

So, know any places to tell JamieD where to go look for a Lion?

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If 46.000acres is big enough, Serapa Safaris | Experience the luxury of the African dream

They have some nice cats, here s a picture of myself and one of the residents

http://www.africahunting.com/hunting...e=20311&size=1

Well I have not participated in the AH forum for some time and had a look around while retrieving a couple of PM's.

When I read this last page of yet another canned lion hunt thread I would have sworn I was reading posts on another forum instead of AH.

Skyline,

Think you just came in at a bad time, :D. Seems there are some who try to push their belief's and "values" off on others, but, when others push back the instigators get pissy. Oh well, welcome back.

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Originally Posted by Skyline

Well I have not participated in the AH forum for some time and had a look around while retrieving a couple of PM's.

When I read this last page of yet another canned lion hunt thread I would have sworn I was reading posts on another forum instead of AH.

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With a few I had that sense too.
Sometimes it is hard to corral the critters and herd them in the right direction. :)

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Originally Posted by Nyati

If 46.000acres is big enough, Serapa Safaris | Experience the luxury of the African dream

They have some nice cats, here s a picture of myself and one of the residents

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Nyati, thanks for the information on a hunt. Appreciated. Maybe JamieD can use it.

I hadn't checked the site in a while and was very surprised to see the mess I had started. My personal feeling is that there are plenty of people outside the hunting community to get mad at us for what we are doing. We need to be respectful of others for there beliefs. I asked the original question to get opinions to help form my own opinion.

My personal feeling is that God gave the animals to man to take care of and use for our needs and enjoyment. It is our duty to be good stewards of what we have been given. To me this means that we need to do what we can to make their life and or death as comfortable and painless as possible.

Is this in a 6 foot cage at the zoo, (I don't think so). Is this in a 10 acre pen with plenty to eat and trees to lay under, (I believe so).

Beyond that if it is sporting to hunt an animal in a enclosure of a given size is up to the individual.

I do appreciate the responses, they have helped me to form my opinion.

I believe that I would be very comfortable hunting on a good sized area if I felt the outfitter was of good reputation.

Thanks again