NON TROPHY ELEPHANT HUNT IN ZIMBABWE

Hi Bossie

Sorry if I sound like a #$%&, but if that elephant's in the photo above both tusks combined makes half of 30 lbs, I owe you a beer.

You Don't sound like a #$#&, it is just that you might be blind or you can not read.
I said that Elephant is +/- 25 pounds and if you look closer it had only one tusk.
So go back and read the message.

I have a question for anyone out there. What is the point of shooting a young elephant, unless it had a broken tusk or injury? Wouldn't it be better for the herd to take a older bigger bull that had worn teeth and potentially doing more damage to the habitat, the rest of the herd is trying to making a living on?

enysse, what I dont understand is why someone would pay for a young animal hunt. Its like saying, 14,995 for a 170+ trophy class whitetail and special discounting @ 8995.00 for a spike horn but you cannot keep the meat or the spikes.

My question is if it is not PAC (illegal for tourist hunter), it cannot be management (no management quota is issued by Parks), it is not on trophy quota, what quota is it being hunted on?

Also what is a non-cites hunt and who authorizes the quota?

There is no need to tell me to come right or tell me I am blind and cannot read I would just like to hear the answer to the three questions.

Like I said I'm not picking on anyone, I'm fairly intelligent and know a lot of things on wildlife management. And I support Bushbucks statement and Mikes as usual.

I'm not sure the hunts are legal, and why a young elephant bull needs to put down?

I'd just like to know why these are good hunts for the wildlife????

Wouldn't it make sense to sell bulls for $20000 a piece that were mature, and then some cow hunts if the land is over populated....and I'm not thinking of the hunters pocket book, I'm talking about the wildlife management of the elephants....and of course the bull elephants are all exportable.

Originally Posted by lbgsafaris

You Don't sound like a #$#&, it is just that you might be blind or you can not read.
I said that Elephant is +/- 25 pounds and if you look closer it had only one tusk.
So go back and read the message.

Bosman, I went back and read the message.
As to the specific elephant having only one tusk, that is not clear in the picture, and by making this such a big issue, you might expose your experience level, so be careful... For your information, in the case that you may have not seen it before, most of the times that an elephant goes down on his/ her side, the bottom tusk goes into the ground, (in the case of soft soil like that seems to be anyways.)

And if that single tusk weighs 25 pounds, I owe you a truck full of beers...

I think it's all pretty simple guys. Young, one tusked, no tusks, three legged, or one-eyed....if an operator can make $$ on an affordable ele hunt they are going to do it.

It sure seems that way Tom, if I was a programed killer I'd be ok with it. But I'm getting older and thinking about the world I leave behind.

Fok die mense is deur die kak wat jou an vat Bosman!!!

Kan sien hulle het nog nooit in Zimbabwe gejag of weet wat gaan an in daai land nie en dan wil hulle jou se hoe dinge moet wees.
Se net vir die klomp dis Animal Control en dat daar te veel is of so iets want ek sal elkeen hier wat dink hulle weet wat gaan vir wat in Zim somer uit kak.

Watse stuk van Non trophy verstaan hulle nie.

Julian Paquot
Limpopo South Africa
jnj.paquot@hotmail.com
+27 (0) 76 080 6109

For those who cannot read the above post, translated it reads:

Originally Posted by jnj.paquot

F**k the people have shit on you Bosman!
Can not see they have never hunted in Zimbabwe or know what's going an in that country and then they want to tell you how things should be.
Just tell the many that's Animal Control and that there is too much or something because I will be everyone here who think they know what's going to Zimbabwe in summer shit.
What piece of Non trophy do they not understand.

Julian Paquot
Limpopo South Africa
jnj.paquot@hotmail.com
+27 (0) 76 080 6109

Julian,

Actually some of the people that have questions concerning this hunt live in Zimbabwe unlike you. Others spend time hunting there every year.

My questions were very simple, all I was looking for was a simple answer.

It is illegal to hunt elephant in Zim as "Animal Control" as you called it in your post.

I understand non-trophy. I want to know how it is done legally in Zim, nothing more, nothing less.

Originally Posted by jnj.paquot

Fok die mense is deur die kak wat jou an vat Bosman!!!

Kan sien hulle het nog nooit in Zimbabwe gejag of weet wat gaan an in daai land nie en dan wil hulle jou se hoe dinge moet wees.
Se net vir die klomp dis Animal Control en dat daar te veel is of so iets want ek sal elkeen hier wat dink hulle weet wat gaan vir wat in Zim somer uit kak.

Watse stuk van Non trophy verstaan hulle nie.

Julian Paquot
Limpopo South Africa
jnj.paquot@hotmail.com
+27 (0) 76 080 6109

Julian, maybe Bosman is getting flack BECAUSE people know what is going on in Zim.
And a lot of what is going on is illegal.

What part of illegal do YOU not understand?

Thanks Mike,

Wow, how classy Julian!!!

I'm not going to reply, BTW don't assume us foreign hunters don't know what we are talking about, this kinda talk is why there are problems in Africa. (TIA)!

Best of luck to you

OH MYYY!!!!!!!

Pretty funny. A 25 year old snot nose student comes onto a public forum promoting himself as a PH offering cull hunts for impala etc. Then posts on another thread insulting the very people that he is trying to advertise to and get money from.

I can see You have a big future ahead of you. I for one will remember your name, the town you live in, your facebook photos with you and your sister in matching little green rugby shirts. I have saved your post just incase people would like to get a reference about you and how you treat potential clients.

Have a great day sir.. & nice little pig.

Man I love this place.

Great post Bushbuck.

Post removed by AfricaHunting.com on the request of Sally Bown, Administrative Officer of Safari Operators Association of Zimbabwe (SOAZ)

The letter posted by jnj.paquot has been removed as it was not officially approved to be publicized by SOAZ... I had an email communication with Sally Bown dating March 2, 2011 asking me not to post it as a resource on AH for this reason, which I will honor.

so...is the $6k baby elephant hunt offer still on or what?

Hi Rastaman

Yes the hunt is still on offer, It will remain on offer until it has been proven illegal. According to our quota that we have it is still legal. So until further notice it will be on offer.
About it being baby Elephant I would like any outfitter from SA or Botswana give comment on what the size of a big Elephant bull will be in the Tuli Block.

Thank you