Choice between 2 rifles for Africa
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02-17-2012, 03:28 PM #41
Well to be percisise the M118 special ball 7.62x51 cart develops 2650 fps out of a 24 inch 5C barrel. The projectile wieght is 168grains. The projectile is also a match grade full metal jacket bullet. True many MEN have fallen to this combination try that with a Blue wieldabeast. Take my word for it poeple are easy to kill, animals have a singular tenacity to hang onto life. Once again I pose the qwestion why undergun yourself when there are so many alternatives?
02-17-2012, 03:33 PM #42
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You have to love caliber threads. Who's wrong?
In my relative ignorance of various firearms I accepted a Remington 30-06 as a gift (You know Grampa had one) thinking it would be an improvement on my 270 Win.
After some reading some ballistics and trajectory info I learned the contrary and am still stuck lovingly to my 270.
Maybe if I ever go Salmon fishing and need a rifle to deal with a nasty Grizzly in close quarters thick willows I'll take that 30-06 loaded with the biggest bullets I can find.
Until then, a .277 hole through the lung/heart will just have to do where ever I go.
Buffalo eat up 1200 grains of .375H&H and still be kicking (boiler room and spine) Borrowed.
I have now seen Eland still up after 1200 grains (8mm), 1000 through the boiler room. Borrowed.
Kudu, Nyala, Gemsbok, Impala, Warthog, Bushbuck, Reedbuck, with 130 grain TTSX .277 (One shot if it hit the boiler room on the first shot)
Blesbok and Springbok with 110 grain .243 Borrowed
Take your favourite, just because. Polish it, hug it and shoot it well.
If your worst nightmare comes true because of airline efficiency. Borrow a PH's rifle and go hunting.Practice whispering before you leave for Africa!
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02-17-2012, 03:51 PM #43
02-17-2012, 04:06 PM #44
You need to be more up on your nomenclature the bullet used for sniping is not 175gr its 168 sierra matchking. But you dont have to belive me just look it up. What the hell could I know it was only my trade for 22years.
02-17-2012, 04:15 PM #45
Well unless they went back to the 168 which is possible but I doubt it. The standard sniper bullet has been 175 for some years. You look it up. I have written articles about this stuff. Published.
02-17-2012, 08:06 PM #46
MY Point is if the 7.62 nato is sooo awesome why have most of our allies switched to a differant round? As it relates to hunting in Africa what if the MONSTER KUDU OF YOUR DREAMS steps out at 400m with no way to get closer? The solution is to never be undergunned! thats all I have too say about it common rounds for common minds.
02-17-2012, 08:28 PM #47
I agree with you more than you realize. I too would opt for more power and always have in Africa. However many here sing its praises and have done quite well with it despites its shortcomings. If it was all I had I would not hesitate to hunt PG with one, but would have to pass on 400 yard shots. But I would anyway.
02-17-2012, 08:36 PM #48
BARTFRNCS and sest, I served 87-91, we used both bullet weights, depended on which your rifle (issued) shot best. Some even used the 150's."That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche // That which does not kill me, better run like hell" Scott Smith
02-17-2012, 09:02 PM #49
02-17-2012, 09:08 PM #50
M24, new in 88', I used it in 90'. Just your basic medium heavy barreled 700. Probably why I'm such a fan..."That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche // That which does not kill me, better run like hell" Scott Smith
02-17-2012, 09:15 PM #51
it should pop up for you to read, if interested. Thanks Scott
02-18-2012, 05:10 AM #52
will do, Scott."That which does not kill us makes us stronger" Friedrich Nietzsche // That which does not kill me, better run like hell" Scott Smith
02-18-2012, 05:59 AM #53
thought this was to do with taking two rifles to africa, not a pissin match on .308 knowledge?
02-18-2012, 07:36 AM #54
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.308 'nuff said. Bye.
02-18-2012, 04:55 PM #55
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02-18-2012, 07:14 PM #57
I harbour no ill will towards anyone on here! Yes I have opinions. I think people asking qwestions should have both sides laid out then they can make a decision.
02-19-2012, 01:45 AM #58
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When it comes to long range sniping of people today, I thought that the 338 Lapua was the most used by different Nato forces around the world.
When it comes to PG hunting, I don't think there is enough difference between 6.5x55, 270win, 270WSM, 308win or 30-06 to care about.
I would choose the gun you shoot the best.
If no difference, I would choose the 308 if you are worried about losing your ammo and the 270WSM if you want a bit better trajectory.
I am sure the animals you want to hunt won't notice any difference
The most important is high quality bullets and good shooting
02-19-2012, 09:34 AM #59
This has been fun but the OP should ask his PH about which one to use. It all depends on whats on your list couldyou tell us?
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