Often, the English makers replaced the floorplate. Surest way to tell is if there is a half round cut out on the left side of action.
On the 'bridge' at the back of the action that stops the bolt coming out, there is a cut away which allows the insertion of a 'clip' to reload the magazine for the military actions too!
I am sorry if you feel that the thread got derailed because of my innocuous and rather unostentatious query. Apologies for doing so.
In fact it was your opening post that inspired me to go ahead with the .404 Jeffery purchase process. I have never hunted in Africa but have visited most of the game sanctuaries and wildlife areas and have pursued the Big Five with a camera. It was with Africa in mind that I was attracted to the .404.
Are there definite signs of a revival of the .404 in Africa? Are new rifles coming on the market and old ones being restored or refurbished?
I saw two old Indian catalogues today, both from the 1920s. The .404 is listed at Indian Rupees (Rs.) 300 under the Mauser name, Rs. 350 under the Manton's name and Rs. 625 under the Vickers' name. In those days the Indian Rupee was exchanged with the United States Dollar at 2.5 to 1, I believe.
I wonder at reasons for the difference in prices between the Mauser, Manton and Vickers brand names. Could it be due to better sights, stock or barrel? Does anyone have an idea?
I think it's a darn shame but the new gun market, really doesn't include the .404 Jeffrey. CZ makes a new gun that's available. But the market has really shifted to the 416 Ruger, 416 Rem, 416 Rigby, 375 Ruger, and 375 H&H. I realize there are more possibilities like the 450/400 and others but no one seems to be pushing the issue to the masses.
With respect to foot pounds of energy, then, yes I suppose it is the "smallest" of the forties, though from bullet size and demensions it is fairly common to the forty tribe. The .416 Rigby and Remington run 100 to 200 fps faster with a .416 diameter .400 gr bullet than the .423 diameter .404. That smaller diameter gives the Rigby a slight BC advantage, but the old Jeffery starts out with a slightly bigger hole. I tend to lump all the forties in same band - I doubt if many buffalo would testify to any real difference between being punched with a Rigby or a Jeffery. And I think of the .375 is truly unique as a "heavy" general purpose rifle which straddles the line between dangerous and small game. True stopping rifles are, to my mind, a very different proposition and I would whole heartedly agree that the extra 100 grains and frontal area of a .500 is a big discriminator. But so is the extra 100 grains and frontal area of the .404 over the .375.
Lets not forget that the .404 can be handloaded to match .416 Rigby (factory) ballistics, making the real world difference nill.
Been perving over this beast for a few months now, the boss hasn't caved into the pressure yet though!
404 Jeffery custom rifle | Trade Me
100% Red Leg. If you can use it to good effect it's better than one you can't!
Hmmmmmm, can get a brand spanking CZ550 .416 Rigby for $2k, but this has more appeal and heritage, decisions.....